Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #1

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Women don't usually leave themselves naked during a suicide but they might if they are trying to make their suicide look like a murder.

For what purpose would she try to do that? The woman is naked with hands and feet bout-that looks like a murder to me.
 
Could someone kindly snip and post pertinent quotes from the ibtimes.com article?

(I can't view it.)

Thanks!
 
The boy might have been planking - interesting addition to this mystery! Thanks Melanie!

??? What if he was planking on the hall banister above the open staircase space, lost his balance, fell onto the chandelier, and shirt got hung-up on the chandelier blocking his trachea ???? Freak accident ???

However it happened, reports so far are of the boy's accidental death as SD homicide is not investigating the boy's death. They are only involved in the woman's death.

Hope they hold another presser today.
 
The boy might have been planking - interesting addition to this mystery! Thanks Melanie!

??? What if he was planking on the hall banister above the open staircase space, lost his balance, fell onto the chandelier, and shirt got hung-up on the chandelier blocking his trachea ???? Freak accident ???

However it happened, reports so far are of the boy's accidental death as SD homicide is not investigating the boy's death. They are only involved in the woman's death.

Hope they hold another presser today.



Anyone else? The other thing that is just too weird is that they both died from some form of asphyxiation (even though I know it's possible her neck was broken or she died before she was hanged). With all due respect to Max and family.
 
Could someone kindly snip and post pertinent quotes from the ibtimes.com article?

(I can't view it.)

Thanks!

Not sure what part you'd like but ...
Deepening the mystery surrounding her death, it emerged that a party had been held at the mansion on Tuesday, a day after Max's fatal fall. The following night Nalepa died in mysterious surroundings.
 
Police haven't zeroed in on any suspect so far, but the Shacknais and Dina Romano are being interrogated as witnesses.

Adding fuel to a murder theory, a friend of Nalepa told ABC news that the 32-year-old was a survivor and was unlikely to commit suicide, especially after baring her body.

There were also public statements defending Shacknai. According to Nalepa's brother-in-law, Shacknai was devoted to her while Nalepa treated Max as her own child.


http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/182...ens-pharmaceutical-jonah-girl-friend-fath.htm
 
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/national_world&id=8256237

On Wednesday, officials said Shacknai's 32-year-old girlfriend, Rebecca Nalepa, was found dead hanging nude from a balcony at the mansion, her hands and feet bound. Shacknai's brother, Adam, who was staying in the mansion guesthouse, called to report Nalepa appeared to be dead, police said. Jonah Shacknai was not at home.

I thought Rebecca was actually still alive when they arrived? I guess the 911 tape could be informative.
 
Sheriff's Capt. Tim Curran said Adam and Jonah Shacknai were
only witnesses, not "persons of interest," and that Zahau's death did not
appear related to Max's death.

Coroner's investigators refused to talk about how Shacknai's girlfriend
died, or even say whether it was thought to be a suicide, a homicide or an
accident
.


http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local...on-Death-Memorial/9LwNslaEP0KU7lf24R8FyA.cspx


what I put in red is the most strange to me~!!!!
 
"Because of the unique and bizarre circumstances of this incident, it has yet to be determined if this will become a criminal matter or will remain as a death investigation," Curran told news crews Thursday during a briefing at sheriff's headquarters in Kearny Mesa.
Despite the many unknowns in the lurid case, authorities said they were confident the woman's death was "an isolated incident" -- not the act of an unidentified killer who remained at large.
Zahau had been staying in the mansion with Jonah Shacknai, whose brother was a guest in one of the smaller residences on the grounds. The latter apparently was the only other person at the estate with the woman at the time of her death, Curran said.


http://www.10news.com/news/28566086/detail.html
 
Daily Mail has a lengthy article today, a good catch-up for those just discovering the case (like me), with plenty of pictures and a somewhat regrettable tabloid headline:

Millionaire's six-year-old son dies after mysterious accident
at mansion where his father's lover was found hanging naked

Here is the quote on her still being alive when they arrived ..

Firefighters tried to revive Miss Nalepa, who they described as being 'in distress', but she was later pronounced dead at the scene.
 
Party Tuesday or NO party? Gah!

There are a lot of steps in my house. The second floor is actually open floor plan, so the entire upstairs, you can see down to the first floor from anywhere up there, meaning that one could fall down the stairs or from anywhere upstairs into to the first level of the house (hard wood floors), BUT by the time my child was 6, he knew how to not fall off the second level and how to go up and down the stairs safely, so I don't know how much supervision a 6 year old really needs in a house he's familiar with, stairs or not.

The only thing i have to remind my kids (and myself) of is NO SOCKS on the wood stairs! You WILL slip and bust your a$@ and I think we all have at some point.
About the rumored planking...he seems a little young, but if he watches MTV or has friends with older siblings, he definitely could know about planking.
 
Anyone else think the other thing that is just too weird is that they both died from some form of asphyxiation (even though I know it's possible her neck was broken or she died before she was hanged). With all due respect to Max and family.

Yes, coincidence or not a coincidence of both deaths possibly by asphyxiation has had my active imagination wandering.

Wonder what her religious beliefs were?

Death of the boy under her care could be devastating to her relationship with the boy's father, regardless of fault/neglect/bad luck/etc. Could lead her to suicide. [Although so strange that her sister mentioned her being normal on the phone Tues evening given the circumstances of the boy's devastating accident and likely knowledge of no brain activity at that time.] Could also cause someone to blame her and exact revenge.

Sounds like the plot of an interesting murder mystery.
 
Party Tuesday or NO party? Gah!

There are a lot of steps in my house. The second floor is actually open floor plan, so the entire upstairs, you can see down to the first floor from anywhere up there, meaning that one could fall down the stairs or from anywhere upstairs into to the first level of the house (hard wood floors), BUT by the time my child was 6, he knew how to not fall off the second level and how to go up and down the stairs safely, so I don't know how much supervision a 6 year old really needs in a house he's familiar with, stairs or not.

The only thing i have to remind my kids (and myself) of is NO SOCKS on the wood stairs! You WILL slip and bust your a$@ and I think we all have at some point.
About the rumored planking...he seems a little young, but if he watches MTV or has friends with older siblings, he definitely could know about planking.


I posted a link with a picture of the stairs upstream.. they are carpeted and have a bend in them...

now I am even more suspicious of this whole thing including the stairs thing
 
I want to know what else was found when the boy was found. Once my brother and I took a ride down our carpeted stairs on a boogie board. Yeah, I grew up in San Diego, so we had boogie boards handy!
 
Yes, coincidence or not a coincidence of both deaths possibly by asphyxiation has had my active imagination wandering.

Wonder what her religious beliefs were?

Death of the boy under her care could be devastating to her relationship with the boy's father, regardless of fault/neglect/bad luck/etc. Could lead her to suicide. [Although so strange that her sister mentioned her being normal on the phone Tues evening given the circumstances of the boy's devastating accident and likely knowledge of no brain activity at that time.] Could also cause someone to blame her and exact revenge.

Sound like the plot of an interesting murder mystery.

your post perplexed me! (what I bolded)... I noted she is burmese from some articles... I tried to google burmese suicide methods and couldn't find much but did find an interesting page on the topic concerning japan... hanging is listed as a common method and also further in the page it states that suicide is tolerated and considered a "morally responsible action"

interesting to say the least...

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Sheriff's Capt. Tim Curran said Adam and Jonah Shacknai were
only witnesses, not "persons of interest," and that Zahau's death did not
appear related to Max's death.

Coroner's investigators refused to talk about how Shacknai's girlfriend
died, or even say whether it was thought to be a suicide, a homicide or an
accident
.


http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local...on-Death-Memorial/9LwNslaEP0KU7lf24R8FyA.cspx


what I put in red is the most strange to me~!!!!

Hmmm ... other articles have also said the Sheriff's office is NOT investigating Max's death because they were not asked to get involved.
 
I posted a link with a picture of the stairs upstream.. they are carpeted and have a bend in them...

now I am even more suspicious of this whole thing including the stairs thing

Yeah seeing the stairs, I get a bad feeling. I get the feeling (no real basis) that no one else was responsible for the boy's death, but something happened on those stairs that was not supposed to happen. I can't see a fall down either relatively short part of those stairs being fatal, especially to a child unless there was some misuse of the stairs or something propelling him.

I mean, freaky things happen and people die from minor accidents, so who knows, but something is "off" here.
 
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