Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #4

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According to police dispatch JS did get to hospital before 2 females at his house..RN and GS(IMO).

My EX tried the gas light carp..the thing he didnt count on ..I was already crazy. Nearly drove him Mad..Mad I tell you.

I would think that with DS psychology experience and knowledge..she would know a bit about handling him.

I can see how she could get suckered into the drama.

He was much more handsome before he started using his own product. I am looking forward to more info from the police.
 
jstwondering said:
Ya, isn't it? Oh, and I just noticed that it was written by the late, great, Dominick Dunn!

Sorry for going off topic.
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Dominick would have been on top of this case and we would have had a Vanity Fair article with all the gossip!
 
Paladine said:
From that video: balcony was 10-15 feet off ground, was "suspended by a rope", won't comment on what was used to 'bind' her (electrical cord?), 911 caller said "woman appeared to be dead", 911 responders said woman was deceased upon arrival, won't comment on what was found indoors, won't comment on whose room it was....

There's more I found interesting but my notes disappeared...ugh. Worth a re-listen, imo.
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Sorry for quoting myself, again...really, I'm not a narrcissist...see? I can't even spell it! ;)

BUT....

You know the video where they use that light to show the "rope"...? That lights UP the rope? I've seen it posted, here...

Well, a couple of days ago, when I watched it, when I froze it at the lit up part (sorta like Blacklight, maybe?) I could SEE ORANGE on her arm area and something more BROWNISH leading away...I KNOW, it all looks orange...but when viewed under that light, the REALLY orange part stood out by her arm and the other part looked BROWNER...does anyone have that video, or know the one I'm speaking of? It was a news video...have a look, tell me what you see. If we can get the link...
 
If she found "rope" to hang herself (per presser link up thread (suspended by "rope"), surely, she could have bound her hands and feet with something other than ELECTRICAL CORD? Did the woman not have a scarf or two? Maybe a belt, a cord from a robe? Makes no sense, to me.
 
Paladine said:
If she found "rope" to hang herself (per presser link up thread (suspended by "rope"), surely, she could have bound her hands and feet with something other than ELECTRICAL CORD? Did the woman not have a scarf or two? Maybe a belt, a cord from a robe? Makes no sense, to me.
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That's what I asked earlier, if suicide (which I think not) what thought process would she have had to say oh I'll get the extension cord from the garage to tie myself up as opposed to using what is readily available upstairs. As well, to me it seems like whoever did this brought both of these items with them from the garage when coming into the house which would certainly show premeditation. imo
 
pferrin said:
According to police dispatch JS did get to hospital before 2 females at his house..RN and GS(IMO).

My EX tried the gas light carp..the thing he didnt count on ..I was already crazy. Nearly drove him Mad..Mad I tell you.

I would think that with DS psychology experience and knowledge..she would know a bit about handling him.

I can see how she could get suckered into the drama.

He was much more handsome before he started using his own product. I am looking forward to more info from the police.
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Hi Pferrin,

I meant to ask you this yesterday, but my boss had the nerve of asking me to do work!! :loser:

On the police dispatch, did they actually say GS's name? or just said "daughter" or "13 yr old girl"?

Thank you!
 
defense101 said:
That's what I asked earlier, if suicide (which I think not) what thought process would she have had to say oh I'll get the extension cord from the garage to tie myself up as opposed to using what is readily available upstairs. As well, to me it seems like whoever did this brought both of these items with them from the garage when coming into the house which would certainly show premeditation. imo
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Caution>>> Opinion ;)

Yeah...I think it started through the garage, too...orange electrical cord. Maybe snuck in, surprised her while sleeping, beat her up, in an attempt to exhaust rage (violent), turned up the tunes and hung her from the balcony...I hate to think she died a slow hanging death...I somehow prefer it turn out to be a head injury, or something else...something more merciful, but is murder ever merciful?

These are REAL people...sometimes that fact just stabs me in the gut.

I'm stepping away for a little bit...bbs
 
Jade said:
Dominick would have been on top of this case and we would have had a Vanity Fair article with all the gossip!
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And it would've been one of his true crime stories on TV, narrated in his awesome voice!
(I miss you, Dominic!! RIP)
 
Paladine said:
If she found "rope" to hang herself (per presser link up thread (suspended by "rope"), surely, she could have bound her hands and feet with something other than ELECTRICAL CORD? Did the woman not have a scarf or two? Maybe a belt, a cord from a robe? Makes no sense, to me.
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I totally agree, Paladine, and that is why (in addition to the nudity) that it just can't be suicide IMO.

Interestingly enough, in that Vanity Fair article mentioned upthread, the killers bound the victim with jumper cables and the TV cable, because that is what was they had in the car and hotel room, in order to get her small enough to put in the air conditioner duct.

I think desperate murderers will use anything that is handy. Now the question would become, why/where would electrical cord that is thick and orange be found. The only time I use those kind of cords is outside to hang the christmas lights, or hanging in my garage in case of emergency (don't ask what kind of emergency... my dad just always made me have one in my garage...) My point being that the electrical cord could be found outside pretty easily or in the garage. If you asked me to find a rope for you, however, I promise you that I could not find one.

But for suicide, you wouldn't even have to go to the trouble of getting the cord from the garage, or outside. As you mentioned, you could just go into your closet and get a belt or tie.
 
Paladine said:
Caution>>> Opinion ;)

Yeah...I think it started through the garage, too...orange electrical cord. Maybe snuck in, surprised her while sleeping, beat her up, in an attempt to exhaust rage (violent), turned up the tunes and hung her from the balcony...I hate to think she died a slow hanging death...I somehow prefer it turn out to be a head injury, or something else...something more merciful, but is murder ever merciful?

These are REAL people...sometimes that fact just stabs me in the gut.

I'm stepping away for a little bit...bbs
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BBM

I have stated a few times that I believe she was dead before she was hanged. I think her ankles were tied to a chair... with wrists tied behind her, prior to her being dead. Her body, on the ground after the rope/noose was cut, looks to be in a somewhat sitting position, which may be how she was when rigor set in.
 
obmama said:
While it's not confirmed, I think most interpret "soiled bedding" as a politically correct description of "bed wetting". In fact, I googled it and got the same result.

If he was sick, I'd think it would be relevant enough to mention. I don't find it offensive - every kid has accidents, even some of us adults! And, it is very believable that JS & DS argued over it. I was potty trained at 9 months, because my "high expectations" father demanded it. My mother hid my "accidents" from him.
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Whatever was meant, the original statement was that the argument was over the bedding, not Max's bedwetting.

Which then evolved into it being taken for granted, and discussed in some depth, that JS and DS were arguing over Max's bedwetting.

When there is no proof of that.

ETA: Heck, they could have been arguing over how often Max's sheets were changed.
 
peace9274 said:
BBM

I have stated a few times that I believe she was dead before she was hanged. I think her ankles were tied to a chair... with wrists tied behind her, prior to her being dead. Her body, on the ground after the rope/noose was cut, looks to be in a somewhat sitting position, which may be how she was when rigor set in.
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If all that was known and seen at the scene it certainly could be easily recognized by law enforcement detectives then I don't think they would have ever come out and say they were investigating the death.

She would be brought into the MEs office the way she was found and he could have determined rather quickly that it was a homicide and not a suicide. The ME also speaks with LE and has photos taken of the scene and he/she also came to the scene himself/herself when Rebecca was lying there.

So I think they still dont know if this was a suicide or a homicide and are waiting on forensic results and toxicology testing.

IMO
 
Hunnydolll said:
Hi Pferrin,

I meant to ask you this yesterday, but my boss had the nerve of asking me to do work!! :loser:

On the police dispatch, did they actually say GS's name? or just said "daughter" or "13 yr old girl"?

Thank you!
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So sorry to hear of your boss "problems"..the nerve they want you to WORK.
Dispatch said caller was hysterical..gave wrong addy at first..said 6 year old girl had fallen down stairs. Also told them CPR was being done on child..child was having trouble breathing.
Then after police and fire arrived..police to dispatch..girlfriend of father of injured child on phone with father he will meet us at hospital. Police gives starting mileage for carrying the 2 females to hospital to meet with childs father.

Never did they say GS. With her giving 1040 as street addy rather than 1043.IMO... GS was the female on 911 call. I was not listening for juvie police code .
DS could not be found ..I stopped litstening at 12:45-1:00 in pm...They had tried many times to contact DS.
 
oceanblueeyes said:
If all that was known and seen at the scene it certainly could be easily recognized by law enforcement detectives then I don't think they would have ever come out and say they were investigating the death.

She would be brought into the MEs office the way she was found and he could have determined rather quickly that it was a homicide and not a suicide. The ME also speaks with LE and has photos taken of the scene and he/she also came to the scene himself/herself.

So I think they still dont know if this was a suicide or a homicide and are waiting on forensic results and toxicology testing.

IMO
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BBM

And so for my other theory:
She DID commit suicide.
She tied her own wrists & ankles to keep from changing her mind at last seconds.
Rope from her neck to balcony (or beyond) stretched & lowered her to an almost
kneeling position (on ground or table?), which is when & where the rigor set in.
 
obmama said:
*The party planned for Tuesday night.

Although, I still don't get why she was discussing a joint credit card with NN, the week before her death.
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Where has it been confirmed that a party was planned for Tuesday night?

And also where did you get the information about the joint credit card? I did a google news search for both of Rebecca's names and the term "credit card" and came up completely empty.

Thank you.
 
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