Remembering Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II

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Thanks Otto. If Harry and Andrew are removed, does it then follow the line of succession, exluding minor children and those living overseas?

1. The Prince of Wales

2. Prince George of Wales (minor child so excluded)

3. Princess Charlotte of Wales (minor child so excluded)

4. Prince Louis of Wales (minor child so excluded)

5. The Duke of Sussex (excluded by living overseas)

6. Master Archie Mountbatten-Windsor (minor child so excluded also lives overseas)

7. Miss Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor (minor child so excluded also lives overseas)

8. The Duke of York (excluded ... <modsnip>)

9. Princess Beatrice, Mrs. Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi (not a working royal)

10. Miss Sienna Mapelli Mozzi (minor child)

11. Princess Eugenie, Mrs. Jack Brooksbank (not a working royal)

12. Master August Brooksbank (minor child)

13. The Earl of Wessex

14. Viscount Severn (minor child)

15. The Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor (age 18? also not a working royal)

16. The Princess Royal

17. Mr. Peter Phillips (not a working royal)

18. Miss Savannah Phillips (minor child)

19. Miss Isla Phillips (minor child)

20. Mrs. Michael Tindall (not a working royal)

21. Miss Mia Tindall (minor child)

22. Miss Lena Tindall (minor child)

23. Master Lucas Tindall (minor child)

That leaves Camilla, William, Edward and Anne. Charles wanted a slimmed down monarchy and it looks like he might get it.
I'm not sure how the Regency Act clause 6 will change - all speculation at this point. Based on what I've read, my impression is that Counsellor of State role will no longer depend on succession. Will the role continue to be restricted to blood royals? Will it specify working royals?

I suppose we have to wait for a response from King Charles.
 
I'm not sure how the Regency Act clause 6 will change - all speculation at this point. Based on what I've read, my impression is that Counsellor of State role will no longer depend on succession. Will the role continue to be restricted to blood royals? Will it specify working royals?

I suppose we have to wait for a response from King Charles.

I suspect the late Queen was working on this plan for months if not longer, in tandem with Charles. IMO

They had to do something about Prince Andrew or he’d be an ongoing problem.

Same with the Sussexes, it was their choice to leave, they had a year for a change of heart but sold out the family.

My suspicion is that the Yorks will be totally bypassed in favour of Anne and Edward.

So, Camilla, William, Anne and Edward. What will they do for a substitution though, a just in case person?

ETA: If it’s allowed, possibly Andrew Parker-Bowles even. He is a trusted friend of the whole Royal Family and, of course, was married to Camilla for years.

The King is allowed to make the rules I believe. If not, why be King?
 
I suspect the late Queen was working on this plan for months if not longer, in tandem with Charles. IMO

They had to do something about Prince Andrew or he’d be an ongoing problem.

Same with the Sussexes, it was their choice to leave, they had a year for a change of heart but sold out the family.

My suspicion is that the Yorks will be totally bypassed in favour of Anne and Edward.

So, Camilla, William, Anne and Edward. What will they do for a substitution though, a just in case person?

ETA: If it’s allowed, possibly Andrew Parker-Bowles even. He is a trusted friend of the whole Royal Family and, of course, was married to Camilla for years.

The King is allowed to make the rules I believe. If not, why be King?
I assume that Queen Consort will travel with King Charles, so they definitely need a fourth. Perhaps the Princess of Wales will somehow be included - to prepare her for the role when the time comes.
 
I believe Beatrice is in the running. She has been undertaking quite a few royal engagements, including abroad, recently. I thought I had read she is already the 5th Counsellor of State (after Camilla, William, Harry, Andrew), but I don’t have a source.

ETA Camilla

IIRC, during the time that HRH QE II had COVID, Princess Beatrice was indeed listed & acted as a Counselor of State.

(Not going on a link hunt.)

jmho ymmv lrr
 
It would not surprise me to see the Duke of Sussex deep-sixed in the very near future. Not in a literal way……

Given King Charles’ earlier comment about loving Harry and his wife, who are overseas (maybe abroad), he’s likely to ‘quietly’ restrict his visits to Britain yet let him keep his title but be ‘outside’ the RF.

Sometimes, you just have to cut ties.

Harry is only the second Duke of Sussex, the first one didn’t fare very well either.

On their wedding day, I felt that the Queen had cursed them with that title.

Then I saw the Queens face during the wedding and was even more convinced it was a curse.

JMO, IMO, MOO etc, etc.
 
Harry and Andrew are unsuitable for Counsellor of State due to their choices. Charles has to make changes to the Regency Act and Counsellor of State so he can be confident that everything is looked after while he is away.


"Prince Harry has bowed out of royal duties and moved abroad, while Andrew has been removed from public life ... "

DailyMail
 
She seems to have overcome her fear of flying. Currently she's at a spa retreat in India, having flown commercial British Air.


Queen Camilla takes BA flight abroad for luxurious holiday to 'de-stress and revitalise'​

Queen Camilla arrived in India on Thursday alongside her friends for a relaxing holiday, which was reported by local news media.​


"Queen Camilla, 75, has flown to India for a 10-day holistic therapy holiday, according to local news media. Royal fans began suspecting where Camilla was, when she was not pictured alongside King Charles over the weekend."

"She travelled on a British Airways flight on Thursday and then went by road for nearly 40 km from Kempegowda International Airport to Soukya.

Queen Camilla was escorted by members of Royalty and Specialist Protection, an elite force of Scotland Yard.

Police sources said: “There were strict instructions not to publicise her trip as it’s a private visit. No public engagement programmes or interactions have been scheduled during her stay.”

According to local reports, Soukya chairman Dr Isaac Mathai has been the holistic physician for Camilla and King Charles for several years."

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Queen Camilla flies to India on BA plane (Image: GETTY)

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Soukya Hollistic Wellness Centre has rave reviews (Image: GETTY)
 
During the chat, Charles opened up about clocks being the 'heartbeat of the home', which is why he especially wanted to get his antique fixed.

He continued: 'To me I just love the sound, the tick-tock but also if they chime, that's why I love grandfather clocks.

'I find it rather reassuring in a funny way and they become really special parts of the house... the beating heart of it. So that's why they matter to me

'I'm afraid it is something I learnt from my grandmother, she had great fun putting a few together and trying to get them to chime at the same time in the dining room, which made it very enjoyable because everybody had to stop talking.'



  • Experts restored a piece of pottery made for Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee and an 18th century clock
 

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An Eighstome Reel danced by the royal family during the Ghillies Ball at Balmoral. Filmed ca. 1990. Jim McLeod's band. Among the dancers : HM The Queen and HRH the Duke of Edinburgh HM Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother TRH the Prince and Princess of Wales HRH the Duke of York HRH the Princess Royal Lady Margaret Rhodes

 
An Eighstome Reel danced by the royal family during the Ghillies Ball at Balmoral. Filmed ca. 1990. Jim McLeod's band. Among the dancers : HM The Queen and HRH the Duke of Edinburgh HM Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother TRH the Prince and Princess of Wales HRH the Duke of York HRH the Princess Royal Lady Margaret Rhodes

They looked like they were having a wonderful time!
 
An Eighstome Reel danced by the royal family during the Ghillies Ball at Balmoral. Filmed ca. 1990. Jim McLeod's band. Among the dancers : HM The Queen and HRH the Duke of Edinburgh HM Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother TRH the Prince and Princess of Wales HRH the Duke of York HRH the Princess Royal Lady Margaret Rhodes

What a Fun video to see! Thanks for sharing it.
 
An Eighstome Reel danced by the royal family during the Ghillies Ball at Balmoral. Filmed ca. 1990. Jim McLeod's band. Among the dancers : HM The Queen and HRH the Duke of Edinburgh HM Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother TRH the Prince and Princess of Wales HRH the Duke of York HRH the Princess Royal Lady Margaret Rhodes

Thanks for sharing it.
 

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