Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/15 thru 1/20 Break

[RickshawFan]

Let's look at some facts. Arias has been in jail for over 6.5 years. Who has she killed since going to jail? She's in a "deviant class of her own?" Not even close. She's considered by experts very run of the mill, not even close to the halfway point on Dr. Michael Stone's scale of evil, which has previously been discussed on the Arias threads. He's an expert forensic psychiatrist, considered among the best in the field. The man knows what he's talking about because that's all he studies. Dahmer was at the top of the scale (scoring 22 out of 22). Arias (at a level 9) was actually rated one notch below Susan Smith.

I believe had that gun not jammed or whatever really happened and had TA been killed with one or two gunshots, there probably wouldn't be nearly the hysteria and hyperbole about this killer.

Arias has been elevated (mostly by other women) into something far more than what she actually is. Something about female killers and particularly this female killer has inspired a level of paranoia, despite the actual facts.

Dr. Stone's "scale of evil" opinions cited above are not a "fact": just sayin'.....

Consider: all ALV studies is domestic violence and she has done so for her whole career of several decades. A few people consider her to be among the best in her field.

IIRC from reading them, Dr. Stone's approach seems like ALV's approach to making a scale for domestic violence: subjective! Sexist?

 

[Truth Detector]

Way to go, Einstein. Leave the blinds open while you're packing boxes and suitcases after you murdered someone.

What!?!

She had nothing to hide.

She was fleeing from:



Poor St. Jodi of Arias.

Woe is she.

 

[loveschows]

ive always attributed the extra money she had on her to turning tricks whenever and wherever she needed it. i have also always wondered that before she went to mesa to fullfill her final chapter with travis, she borrowed money off of paul stern in that cafe, or whatever it was, and told him she needed to go to mesa and fix things with her boyfriend. on her way she made 3 deposits totalling what - $7-800 ? i've never read anywhere how she came up with the money to pay him back when she got back to yreka. he was on hln stating that she did pay him back. and we know there was only a short period of time before she was arrested, so its not like she was holding a job and earned that much money to pay him back. any ideas? maybe she hacked travis's bank accts after she murdered him, and if thats the case, wouldnt that be in the testimony? always wondered where she got the money to pay him back.

 

[RickshawFan]

She had a permit for the gun. She could have chosen any weapons but she chose the exact same combination of tool types - knives and a gun- that had served her in slaughtering Travis. She was worried that she may be stopped so took the precaution of hiding weapon types associated with a murder she was a suspect in. She already owned a stun gun, according to her journals.

I'm not dismissng the running away theories. I feel that she was so enraged at the (imagined) injustices the Hughes had inflicted on her that she would have wanted revenge on the way out. She was arrested before any of our theories could be tested.

I'm thinking that JA is so caught up in her own drama, that there was no rationale for hiding the weapons: she just had some bizarre "cloak and dagger Jodi is the center of the universe" thing going in her head—"don't people in murder mysteries hide weapons? isn't that what you're supposed to do in this situation?"—that it took over.

 

[Nore]

Hi MeeBee , if I were to visit Mesa and saw Travis' house I could not go in! I would have flashbacks from pictures I've seen. Her attack was so vicious it is imbedded in my mind. She must be a psychopath , there is no other answer IMO. RIP.. Rot in Pain..

 

[Dmacky]

I remember reading this last year, and I've trying to find it for a week.
It's a post by someone who was incarcerated with JA at Estrella.
Don't let her first post sway you. She posts later about JA and her "bestie" Marissa Devault.
Interesting how they both used the very same defense, sat together at lunch, and had to be separated.

https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/413559372053544

 

[ElleElle]

Something I've never quite figured out is that it seems neither JA nor her family are exactly loaded with money, yet with JA there's always rental cars, going on trips, spending money at Starbucks, buying guns, etc. Oh and "loaning" money to Travis since he was penniless. (Yeah right.) Where does all this money come from? She never had much of any income to speak of as far as I can tell. Look at the conditions she was living in with her grandparents - it looked like a small room for a 10yo boy.

I think there was some info from her bank records in the original trial - maybe related to debit card usage; I don't recall. Are her parents richer than I realize? If not, was she getting all her money from sponging off one guy after another? Jeez - seems like it would have been several guys given her spending habits.

Here is a snippet of "one" of her bank accounts. Pre and post murder.

 

[Nali87]

I remember reading this last year, and I've trying to find it for a week.
It's a post by someone who was incarcerated with JA at Estrella.
Don't let her first post sway you. She posts later about JA and her "bestie" Marissa Devault.
Interesting how they both used the very same defense, sat together at lunch, and had to be separated.

https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/413559372053544

In Dutch we say "Soort zoekt soort". I can't find a good enough translation for it in Englisg so "Birds of a feather flock together." will have to suffice. I hope that unlike Marissa, who somehow managed to get a life sentence, Jodi Arias does get the death sentence. No more "singing the whole jail a night lullaby" crap for her. No more make up out of crayons and lunch dates with other inmates. Lock her up and throw away the key.

And if there's a mistrial (because there's no way she's going to get 12 people willing to save her miserable life) then I hope both she and Marissa rot in prison.

Vengeful? I don't care after seeing the picture of this Marissa laughing as she described the hammer stuck into the head of her husband's head. Birds of a freaking feather. Both of them. Just evil.

 

[TexMex]

Hi MeeBee , if I were to visit Mesa and saw Travis' house I could not go in! I would have flashbacks from pictures I've seen. Her attack was so vicious it is imbedded in my mind. She must be a psychopath , there is no other answer IMO. RIP.. Rot in Pain..

Well said. Her actions after the murder are so very disturbing. Checking his voicemails and leaving him a message six hours after she had slit his throat.
She also sent post mortem texts and email knowing he was decaying in his shower where she had left him
Then calling the homicide detective in charge of the investigation, calling the Bishop
She sent flowers to her victims grandmother. She attended the memorial service in Mesa and wore a BYU shirt Travis gave her when she went to police headquarters to give her DNA and fingerprint samples and she worked on rewriting the history of their relationship in her journal.
Manipulative psychopath

 

[MeeBee]

Well said. Her actions after the murder are so very disturbing. Checking his voicemails and leaving him a message six hours after she had slit his throat.
She also sent post mortem texts and email knowing he was decaying in his shower where she had left him
Then calling the homicide detective in charge of the investigation, calling the Bishop
She sent flowers to her victims grandmother. She attended the memorial service in Mesa and wore a BYU shirt Travis gave her when she went to police headquarters to give her DNA and fingerprint samples and she worked on rewriting the history of their relationship in her journal.
Manipulative psychopath

It's incredible. She says in her testimony she just couldn't admit to herself what she'd done for two years. Her actions are in direct contradiction to that. Sounds like she could admit it to herself, no problem, and worked very hard for a long time to cover it up. IMO, the best piece of evidence that this isn't just a case of denial is her call to detective Flores. In it she implicates Travis' roommates and a former roommate and starts trying to set someone else for something she clearly knows that she did. She sounds pretty aware of what she did enough to try and frame someone. Completely remorseless. The whole call was a very ill advised attempt to put the police off her trail.

 

[Mystymiss]

Ok here is my opinion regarding the gun that was found in the rental car.

Jodi had the gun and knives in that rental car to throw PD off. She new gun and knives test results would not be the same as the ones she actually used to kill travis with. JMO

 

[ShadyLady]

Did anyone that listened to the trial sidebars catch something about : "family of origin charge"??

 

[MeeBee]

Did anyone that listened to the trial sidebars catch something about : "family of origin charge"??

Which sidebar was it if you know???

 

[MarVa]

Ok here is my opinion regarding the gun that was found in the rental car.

Jodi had the gun and knives in that rental car to throw PD off. She new gun and knives test results would not be the same as the ones she actually used to kill travis with. JMO

Interesting theory! That never occurred to me.

 

[MarVa]

Did anyone that listened to the trial sidebars catch something about : "family of origin charge"??

Yeah, that caught my attention but I didn't understand it. I hope someone can clear it up.

 

[ShadyLady]

Which sidebar was it if you know???

The sidebars that were posted a few days ago....let me see if I can find them/

....found them, in one of these: http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/20130620jodi-arias-sidebars-exclusive.html

"Family of origin issue"????????

 

[wenwe4]

Here is a snippet of "one" of her bank accounts. Pre and post murder.

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I don't remember knowing about the PPL charge to her bank statement. Looks like $19.95 (probably a monthly recurring charge) and that got me thinking about why didn't Pre-Paid Legal step up and provide legal assistance to Jodi? She was not an employee or even a producer of major sales for PPL, merely just a consumer of their services for many months of paying $20. What service did she actually receive from PPL for representation? Gus Searcy wasn't even sure if he had legal representation while committing perjury and attempting to withhold evidence from the court. I recently (last July) a vehicle in Oregon with a big old PPL magnetic signage and a local phone number. I thought PPL was defunct and now called "Legal Shield" but they are still advertising PPL.

 

[east2west]

I don't remember knowing about the PPL charge to her bank statement. Looks like $19.95 (probably a monthly recurring charge) and that got me thinking about why didn't Pre-Paid Legal step up and provide legal assistance to Jodi? She was not an employee or even a producer of major sales for PPL, merely just a consumer of their services for many months of paying $20. What service did she actually receive from PPL for representation? Gus Searcy wasn't even sure if he had legal representation while committing perjury and attempting to withhold evidence from the court. I recently (last July) a vehicle in Oregon with a big old PPL magnetic signage and a local phone number. I thought PPL was defunct and now called "Legal Shield" but they are still advertising PPL.

I'm up in Portland. PPL Electric Utilities?

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[wenwe4]

I'm up in Portland. PPL Electric Utilities?

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No it actually said Pre-Paid Legal Services (it was at a grocery parking lot in Beaverton) - I was shocked (and giggling)

 

[east2west]

No it actually said Pre-Paid Legal Services (it was at a grocery parking lot in Beaverton) - I was shocked (and giggling)

[emoji4] was it on a Lexus?

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