Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/15 thru 1/20 Break

[Nali87]

I'm trying to understand how the tweeted excerpts of testiphony thus far, and the especially cruel lying torture murderess's transcribed tale of woe support the mitigating factors she and her dastardly team listed for the Court.

No, actually I'm not.

But I am observing how they don't, and thus are not proven.

The list:

1. She has no prior criminal history.
2. She was just 27 years old when she committed her first offense.
3. She is remorseful for her conduct.
4. She suffered both physical and emotional abuse as a child.
5. She suffered both physical and emotional abuse during her relationship with Mr. Alexander.
6. The abusive nature of the relationship caused her to suffer extreme emotional stress at the time of the incident.
7. She has been diagnosed with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.
8. She has been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder.
9. Her psychological makeup impaired her ability to cope with the tumultuous relationship she had with Mr. Alexander.

1. Murderers start somewhere. She started with Travis.
2. See #1.
3. Remorseful = Sorry [that she got caught, but not about anything else.]
4. She is a liar who doesn't lie convincingly.
5. The abuse she inflicted on TA and his family far and permanently eclipse any abuse she alleges. See #4.
6. She has changed her story more times than she can keep up with. See #5.
7. See #4.
8. See #4.
9. See #6.

I get so frustrated at them using those words. Saying "first offense" and "conduct" as if she was caught doing marijuana after school hours.

It was a murder!
And she should be sorry for taking a man's life.

I don't get how they don't see how UN-remorseful and detached those words sound.

 

[krkrjx]

Amazing the pretzel he has to contort himself in to explain why any of the computer and *advertiser censored* is before this jury.....he does say she, Sherry, is far afield in allowing this stuff....the rest is just nonsensical. And, of course, the standard excuse for Sherry.....she is afraid and worried about appeals. :facepalm:

Sherry is afraid and worried about appeals. This should not be. She needs to be vigilant but not afraid. Appeals are going to happen regardless of how hard a judge strives to avoid them. If JSS knows the law and rules accordingly, she has nothing to worry about. With these attorneys, the defendant, and some of those witnesses in this trial, Sherry's job is not an easy one--but she will have great difficulty regaining control of her courtroom if she continues to show fear at every word spoken or written by this rabid defense team.

 

[Moonchime]

People Tell On Themselves, Their experts do too! #JodiArias

Juan Martinez will have a field day when he gets to cross exam. So many doors were opened by the defense through the experts.

If one listens closely to the interviews of Mom, Pop and Jodi with Detective Flores we learn #JodiArias planned to have her receipts, texts, emails and journals discovered. Much may be inferred once one knows that.

DF questioing mom of JodiArias: "You had enough suspicion to ask her if she did this?"

http://youtu.be/qMaTDrBqZ6g?t=10m29s

MOM: " Well yeah; because, someone died. I asked her. Of course I asked her. She swore she didn't do it. "I DID NOT GO to Arizona. She said, I never went I HAVE THE GAS RECEIPTS TO PROVE IT"

http://youtu.be/qMaTDrBqZ6g?t=4m46s


Jodi Arias in her interrogation with Detective Flores slides in there SEVERAL times

She has journals, emails, and texts that will (according to her) unfortunately show angry words and ugly exchanges between she and Travis. She mentions to him several times where the journals are, he needs to retrieve them, and where her box of gas receipts are in a shoe box by her bed at Gram's house.

We learn from Sky Hughes that Jodi admitted to her, she broke into Travis' emails and forwarded them all to herself

http://t.co/Yh4RvYI3gF

We know from Deanna that she caught Jodi in person breaking into Travis' home and his computer .

http://youtu.be/Wv38JlANzDM?t=13m20s

Dr.Drew: Tell us about the time Travis asked you to go check on his dog, when he was out of town, you got there and to your surprise there was Jodi, making herself at him, making cookies.

Deanna R: Yes, Travis called me, and told me that he wanted me to go over, so of course I agreed to go check on Napoleon. I loved that dog. No one was to be home No cars were there. I used my key to open the door. I walked in, I see Jodi, she is sitting on the couch with Travis' laptop. She offered me a cookie. I kind of knew about the slashing tires, and some stalking behaviors. And there she was in his house, she had broken into his house...



#JodiArias admitted both to Ryan Burns and on the stand that she sent fake emails/texts posing as Travis to Lisa Andrews.

Later we learn from Dr. Karl Hiatt that the complementary texts and emails from Travis to Jodi, that SHE made those up while hacking on to his sites and emails and sent them to herself.
http://youtu.be/MZjAtOGdGN8
http://youtu.be/6D8M9sJVxFE


So the journals, texts and e mails will all be set aside. Whooooaaah.

In their misguided attempt to run out the clock so Juan Martinez could not cross examination their witness they accidentally had their expert read two vital entries that will help the jury KNOW she lied saying it took her two years to accept she had killed him. Their own expert proved for THIS jury, her premeditation. You just can't make this stuff up!

a) Trying to illustrate that Travis was suicidal, she said " He said he felt like going out and getting a gun and putting it to his head" This was in early June OF 2008, mere days before the murder. Clearly he had no gun or he would have said something like I feel like putting MY GUN to my head. Notes were taken by jury at this moment.

b) Trying to illustrate she was not the one who slashed all four of his expensive BMW tires, two days in a row by the way, AND LISA'S tires,and instead how loving she was towards #TravisAlexander, the expert read an expert where #Jodi Arias claims, out of concern, she offered him the use of her stun gun. If an adult man has a real gun, what on earth would a stun gun do to help him feel safe? This is not lost on the common sense of the jury.

Travis Alexander did not have a gun. First jury knew it. Now this jury hears it from Jodi Arias herself, above and beyond her "Travis only had his own two fists" reply she gave Detective Flores when she told him originally that he had no weapons.

http://youtu.be/EYNcbYVpEPU

They teach the same thing in every field , whether it be journalism, business or law. EDIT. Be mindful to make your point and move on. This is where JodiArias' lawyers fail. They go too far, drag on too long and ......inadvertent things slip out. The experts may not even realize it, but one thing is for sure in the matter of State of AZ vs. Jodi Ann Arias. Juan Martinez does not miss a beat!

It has become painfully obvious to this jury as it was to the last, the experts have become advocates and their testimony is wholly misguided, they were spoon fed and have a poor understanding of the true role of Jodi in the entire relationships. They honest to God seem to have no knowledge that Jodi has a history of cheating, manipulating men, she is no victim in ANY of the relationships. Juan will clear the fog right up.

Here is Travis' friend who was stuck listening to TA and JA argue during a long car ride, Travis was telling JODI NOT TO MOVE TO ARIZONA, etc.

http://youtu.be/0PN1ycQJy4o

Here is a coworker of Jodi detailing how she would punch out from her shift and drive five hours to AZ to go spy on / check up on Travis.

http://youtu.be/4UXhVsuzRTE


In one interview with the manager of Jodi Arias' last workplace the quote Juan had ALV read aloud is "He opined Jodi was manipulative. She used men."
Of course ALV explained that away, as it was situation only. What else is a girl to do after a murder but lie and manipulate? "I don't see a pattern here, Mr. Martinez. No. I do not." Alrighty then ALV. We are done with you and the horse you rode in on if you want us to buy THAT.

The money, the jokes, her leading the way, despite how brutally honest Travis was.....Juan will clear the fog, alright.
Travis felt so sorry for her, he offered to pay her to clean his house.
Jodi admitted the maid photo was just as joke. Someone ought to tell her experts that maid uniforms are a fantasy with men as old as Hugh Heffner. Nothing deviant about it.
He could easily have sold his BMW on Craigslist, in a day. He knew she was having a hard time even keeping her waitress job. Aware of her plight and agreed to let her buy it for very soft terms. Even those terms she could not keep and one of his texts that her expert will surely be shown on cross is Travis telling her "Get a real job and START PAYING ME BACK".
Travis may have too, but Jodi Arias borrowed money,alright, and not just from Travis. Other men have come forward as well

Paul Stern

http://youtu.be/sLUizc-cklg

detailing she borrowed money from him "Absolutely frantic to go save the relationship", NOT to go to UTAH, to go to Travis Alexander! This little gem is EVERYTHING, it debunks her entire case. With all the doors the defense opened, and hearesay being allowed in this phase oh my God do I pity this expert when Juan presses play on his 311 CDs he has cued up for cross. In the words of Bette Davis "Buckle up. It is going to be a bumpy ride friend".

Jodi Arias , as much as Travis, was dating others, while she was with every boyfriend, way before Travis entered the scene.

A woman named Gayla Lynch came on HLN to detail how Jodi cheated on Bobby and the drama caused in the workplace when it was exposed she was cheating not only with one of the managers, but at the same time, with one of the cooks.

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/02/05/arias-former-co-worker-she-was-very-sweet

(So the everyone cheated on Jodi is just NOT the comprehensive picture. The truth is Jodi Arias cheated too. She was very manipulative and clearly has manipulated her experts as they present a very misguided description of a good girl being abused by every man in her life.)

Later, we learn she was dating Abe, telling him ( AFTER being babptized) that she was "dabbling in Mormonism. He slipped his hand on her buttock "I just was testing to see if she was wearing thong underwear. I said hmmmm....those don't feel like magic underwear ( slang for sacred under garments Mormon wear). Ah, but they have magic IN THEM she told me. She was very enthusiastic, very comfortable".

http://youtu.be/aRU4NK-7O-g

It does not require Mormons on the jury to infer that her conversion to become Mormon was very goal directed once he announced to Jodi he would ONLY marry a Mormon girl. Her experts read aloud from an interview with Daryl Brewer and his sister detailing the way she colored her hair, got breast implants, went out and bought the same model of car and even got a job in the exact same place his ex wife once worked trying to emulate her in every way. This is Cooley's looking glass at its best. She is jello to the mold of whatever she thinks the man wants her to be.

The defense trying so hard to take the sting out of what Juan would bring up, elicited so much like that. They just went too far this time.....too too far. He need not even cross the expert at all this time. The defense debunked their entire case for him already.

Travis was not leading Jodi on, the defense proved indeed Jodi Arias knew full well what the relationship had changed to, and she openly, willingly participated if not encouraged the booty call 101 playbook.
If a guy says I don't want you to be my girlfriend, I certainly don't want to marry you, even having sex makes me feel conflicted and guilty and YOU still come sneak in his house......who is zooming who?

"Could the opinions the Hughes and Travis discuss in the early emails have changed over time?" is a question jurors asked of Dr. F. She was forced to answer the obvious, " Likely. Yes." So the Hughes emails were set aside with just the one answer. Funny how that works, eh?
What the jury learned is........
Travis was very honest with her that he was no longer looking at her the way he did in the first four months, the time frame those Hughes emails were exchanged. He no longer wanted to be committed to her, indeed he was actively looking ELSEWHERE to meet a wife. According to several of his friends, including Dan Freeman , who testified, it was HE who encouraged her to move away.


Here, his dear friend Taylor Searle explains that YES, his buddies did know that he didn't love her to marry her but he was enthralled with the great sex. STILL, eventually he told her to leave and tried to say THE MEANEST things possible she would forever be done with him.

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/01/02/friend-travis-alexander-speaks-out

"Travis introduced me to the word nympho describing Jodi to me that she was super aggressive , super addicted to sex, super sex crazed, all the time", Taylor Searle

http://youtu.be/3pYTxJsVOPY

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Jodi Arias rather than leave him alone , welcomed the friends with benefits and the don't ask , don't tell arrangement. It turns out she had sex with more than one ex boyfriend, after they had broke up. No new arrangement to her.

Jodi has been into kinky sex , loved braids and superhero underwear since age 16 with Bobby. We've all seen the photo of her in the braids with Bobby, in the superman t shirt. View attachment 67560



So, her own experts and lawyers in their zeal have managed to make it clear, and Juan will magnify the clarity with Dr. DeMarte, that

1.) The first jury got it right, Jodi Arias has told them now in three different times, in her own words Travis DID NOT OWN A GUN, therefore, she did bring it...there was premeditation if ANYONE on this jury was left with doubt.

2.) Jodi has been lying, manipulating men, cheating since age 16 and crying victim since then too.

3.) There is much the experts have no idea of that Juan will point out to them.

4.) Jodi Arias purposely planned to have gas receipts, journal entries, emails and texts that she hoped would lead one away from her guilt. She TOLD her folks and the detective to find them. This will be obvious to the jury and NONE OF IT, absolutely none, of it can be counted on , other than in the words of the very bright Dr. Janene DeMarte, "Further evidence that Miss Arias lies".



5.) The experts have clearly and with certainty been shown to be advocating and not opining objectively. Their opinions and lengthy testimony may therefore be wholly disregarded as bought and paid for.

The jury learned this expert, Geffner's role has expanded, he is there in lieu of ALV, et al.
Alice La Violette is not in front of them testifying and one could question her veracity of WHY. Nurmi and she told the court that despite being paid by the state at $250.00 per hour, for a very long time.....she is afraid to face the public and re take the stand. Not only is she NOT AFRAID, she is giving radio interviews AND LIVE speeches in public, opining on THIS CASE and dogging out the prosecutor. Alice LaViolette is not before this jury because she was caught committing perjury, live on the stand, to the jury. Also she did something wholly outside of decency and approached the victim's sister in court, which is NOT allowed. She was completely discredited by Juan Martinez. Period.

The ironic thing is, guess who exposed ALV for doing so? JodiArias herself .
You just can't make this stuff up.

http://youtu.be/Ybqg3e3YPc8

Much like this example, her experts opining on stand , her family and supporters often say/post things that end up working against Jodi Arias. My favorite was when little brother Joey admitted that the reason she secretly taped the sex talk and tried to so hard to get him to dog out the Mormon girls is "So she could send it to future love interest of Travis" . Blackmail.
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Someone scream for the Street Sweeper dude. Come quick, we have a fine mess in front of the courthouse steps. Juan Martinez is kicking these experts of Jodi Arias to the curb, and things are piling up out here!

Jodi Arias is no more a victim of domestic abuse, than she is Mormon, a blonde or the least bit sorry. What she is....is a
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Liar
Manipulator
Blackmailer
Obsessed Fatal Attraction
Stalker
Abuser
Murderer

With lipstick to put on a pig, for 15 minutes in the media spotlight to cap off your long career,jump start your new book, and for $250.00 an hour.......sure, everybody knows, a hired gun can see her as a victim. All day long. The only trouble is, if you keep them on the stand too long..... it is inevitable. People tell on themselves

Thank you ZoeyW. for such an excellent post!!!

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

IMO, it appears that the judge, and Nurmi, Wilmott and Jodi are all only concerned about their own reputations. Funny that the only one that isn't concerned is Juan. He already has a reputation and it's a good one. And when you are on the right side of justice there is no need to fear. I can kind of understand the judge being so cautious. I DO think she wants to make extra certain that SHE isn't ruling in a way to be overturned on appeal. And with the defense team she has to put up with, with them throwing temper tantrums on the fly every other day, it has to be exhausting and aggravating to say the least. She also recognizes that she is the judge and I don't think she likes it very much when the prosecutor tells her what she can and can't do either.

 

[Moonchime]

I forgot about that. If I were a juror, I would've been thinking "Seriously, you're making this trial all about you? Closing the courtroom for you? What makes you so damn special?"

Her words, to what the Alexanders said, they are so lacking.
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Smdh. A real remorseful person would've been sobbing "I'm sorry, I'm sorry". You know, something real. But you guys are right, she's not capable of doing that.

Get the witch on the stand again. She's her worst enemy.

After the Victims Impact Statements, CMJA couldn't even feign remorse enough to refer to them by name. She can only refer to them as "these people." The jurors were most likely flabbergasted. I know I am, and that is just from reading the transcripts this far past that day.

 

[rose222]

Sherry is afraid and worried about appeals. This should not be. She needs to be vigilant but not afraid. Appeals are going to happen regardless of how hard a judge strives to avoid them. If JSS knows the law and rules accordingly, she has nothing to worry about. With these attorneys, the defendant, and some of those witnesses in this trial, Sherry's job is not an easy one--but she will have great difficulty regaining control of her courtroom if she continues to show fear at every word spoken or written by this rabid defense team.

She should never have banned live coverage of this penalty phase. It all went downhill from there. She gave an inch and Arias has, as usual, took a mile. Arias and team are most excellent in the art of manipulation. Their lack of respect for the Judge is cringeworthy. They have no shame!

 

[Moonchime]

JMO but it will go on and on ... and on and on, IF the defense is allowed to continue to with their unethical shenanigans and delay tactics.

And, it will go on and on ... and on and on, until JSS orders the defense to stop the games, "enough is enough," IF your witness is not available, have another witness ready, and NO more delays !

:moo:

ITA. After yesterday, I have the feeling that JSS is at the point where she is about to tell them that enough is enough. The photo of JSS from yesterday is quite telling. She looks absolutely frustrated!

 

[cindymac]

The only thing that I'm not sure of is whether the jury realized that Travis and Arias exchanged thousands of text messages--I remember the number being close to 84,000. If you count the number of times that Travis sent angry messages and compare it with the total number of messages then it all becomes very clear. I got the impression that some of the jurors believed that Travis frequently sent angry messages. Perhaps it was just the biased foreman. :thinking:

Juan's closing was a thing of beauty! I hope he does the 'it's not her fault' bit for this jury. Epic greatness!

The number of messages may be much higher than that - there were 84,000 pages of messages.

 

[bsk]

The number of messages may be much higher than that - there were 84,000 pages of messages.

Well I guess we should count our blessings! If it was reversed, Lawrence would have had every witness reciting 83,900 pages of them instead of "only" 100 (or whatever the totals are).

 

[AZlawyer]

Someone I know was trying to convince me the other day that he felt remorse for something because it had a bad effect on someone else but still would do it again if he had the chance.

Clearly he and I do not have the same understanding of the word "remorse." But I think maybe this is what Jodi thinks too.

 

[ZoeyW]

Agreed. I don't think any of the "mean things" Travis said to Jodi were abuse, because 1) she deserved all of them based on her actions & behaviors 2) it was the only way he knew how to get rid of her. She wasn't taking a hint.
You can't reference the Hughes's emails because 1) Jodi had them snowed at that point and 2) having sex with someone and not marrying them doesn't qualify as being an abusive sociopath to anyone but a Mormon. Jodi taught Travis and them what it truly means to be an abusive sociopath!!!

Respectfully, Mormons do not believe having sex with someone and not marrying them qualifies as being an abusive sociopath. I am sure you didn't mean it the way it reads. I find your posts to be very bright, indeed. Maybe you are just trying to help everyone laugh. We all do need a little levity in this very dark murder trial or we will go crazy trying to make sense of it.

In that spirit, let me assure Jodi Arias was never really a Mormon http://youtu.be/aRU4NK-7O-g

This is an interview with Jodi at the first jail. She slips up and reveals much that would later come back to haunt her. Like I said before, people tell on themselves http://youtu.be/m7wc814SAW8?t=2h6m41s

(more of the entire 5 hour special)
http://youtu.be/m7wc814SAW8?t=2h32s

Much like David Lohr changed our lives for the better by editing out the #jodiarias murder trial footage to remove the perpetual sidebars, someone took this five hour special and edited out the commercials. So before I begin....thank you Mr. Bontemps , whoever you are.

This is the part I want to focus on Jodi Arias' interview , rarely seen, right after her arrest. Some of what she says here Juan Martinez may use to illustrate to the jury how VERY far from the truth the evaluations of Alice LaViolette, Cheryl Karp, Richard Samuels,Bruce Geffner, et al truly are.
http://youtu.be/m7wc814SAW8?t=2h6m41s


Here she is discussing her converting to become Mormon. She says she was studying and learning about her new religion and when she had questions she looked many things up on LDS.org

http://youtu.be/m7wc814SAW8?t=2h10m46s

I checked it out, it is COMPREHENSIVE AND QUITE CLEAR WHAT THE LAW OF CHASTITY MEANS. So this is an example Juan Martinez can use. She claimed to the jury she had not happened upon any pamphlet that may have explained the law of chastity. Moreover, she did not understand that oral sex and anal sex were included when the missionaries glazed over the topic by saying ANY SEXUAL CONTACT is NOT ALLOWED. What part of the word "Any" did she not understand?

Wait for it.....on the LDS.org site Jodi Arias tells the reporter she visits for "Any resource one might need regarding being LDS"......guess what there is? A search bar, of course.

I simply typed "Law of Chastity" and low and behold there it was, clearly defined WITH A VIDEO ENTITLED "What are the limits?" It gives cute little examples in the video, in case you are explaining to a younger person, ( not a 27 year old Einstein).

Here ya go friends https://www.lds.org/youth/video/chastity-what-are-the-limits?lang=eng

 

[Retrofit]

I'm way behind and haven't read the entire thread yet but I wanted to share this hilarious tweet with you:

A DOGG @Wyattanne7Anne · Jan 13
Juans cross #jodiarias perjury trial:
'M'am u said u wouldn't hurt a fly, yet police found hoards of dead flys in ur house..yes or no?"​

Please excuse if it appears in another thread.

 

[ZoeyW]

Anyone remember during opening statements this time if the DT described the murder, especially what happened that day that caused JA to commit it? Did Nurmi replay the JA dropped his new camera, and an enraged TA attacked her scenario?

If I recall correctly, Nurmi literally made up an entire new story to the jury that seemed to imply Jodi did shoot Travis in the shower. He abandoned the story of she dropped the camera, Travis got angry and jumped out, body slammed her.....altogether. I recall the tweeters ( reporters ) tweeting things like WHAT? WHAT IN THE WORLD NURMI? IS THIS A JOKE? It seems that if Jodi Arias secret testimony would have continued ....mom and pop doing coke wasn't going to be the only revision to Jodi 5.0

 

[ZoeyW]

This jury is the Kim Kardashian became a millionaire due to thousands of people downloading her and RayJ's *advertiser censored* tape generation. They will not be as shocked by the booty call texts, nor a question of *advertiser censored* possibly being on a computer. I don't think it will matter in the least. The jury has seen that Jodi Arias liked, wanted and asked for the way the texts and sex went between the pair of them. Travis was not abusing the ring leader. If anything I think they will be offended at the hypocracy. In the words of Juan Martinez "She was just as Mormon as he was. She converted in 2006. " Those texts would make a drunken sailor blush and they are FROM her TO him in many cases.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

If I recall correctly, Nurmi literally made up an entire new story to the jury that seemed to imply Jodi did shoot Travis in the shower. He abandoned the story of she dropped the camera, Travis got angry and jumped out, body slammed her.....altogether. I recall the tweeters ( reporters ) tweeting things like WHAT? WHAT IN THE WORLD NURMI? IS THIS A JOKE? It seems that if Jodi Arias secret testimony would have continued ....mom and pop doing coke wasn't going to be the only revision to Jodi 5.0

That's kind of the same thing Baez did in his opening. It's sad that they don't have to be accountable or PROVE anything they say in opening or closing statements. To me a lie is still a lie, and it was obvious when Baez did it, and it is/was/is obvious when Nurmi or Wilmott do it.

 

[LinTX]

Gack, I'm still trying to catch up and still haven't finished reading the last thread. So, if this has already been asked and answered, I apologize.

Does anybody know what was the photocopied book confiscated from her cell? My first impression was that it was a published book, and if so, does anyone know the title or author's name? But now I'm wondering if it was a manuscript of a book JeinsteinA is writing? Her manifesto, "My Sufferings"?

Don't think anyone knows whose book it was, but it wasn't her own writing The only description is that it was photocopied pages of a book someone wrote about the trial, along with her handwritten notes in the margins. There had been no request for a book as required, and the pages were in an envelope labeled "legal papers", IIRC. MCSO correctly stated that copying the book was not legal and so it was contraband, but they gave it back to her anyway. Defense assumed, and probably correctly, that her notes were copied and given to the prosecutor before it was returned to her. :boohoo:

 

[Becky Sharp]

Don't think anyone knows whose book it was, but it wasn't her own writing The only description is that it was photocopied pages of a book someone wrote about the trial, along with her handwritten notes in the margins. There had been no request for a book as required, and the pages were in an envelope labeled "legal papers", IIRC. MCSO correctly stated that copying the book was not legal and so it was contraband, but they gave it back to her anyway. Defense assumed, and probably correctly, that her notes were copied and given to the prosecutor before it was returned to her. :boohoo:

Thanks for the answer. Hmmm, I wonder how she got the copies? Didn't know that Maria's job also includes library services.

 

[ZoeyW]

Yes, yes they can. It is up to each juror to decide who and what to believe if a witness has given conflicting testimony or has been proven to lie.

Two words I hope ring in the jury's ears- secondary gain.

Oh my goodness Frigga, I remember when Juan was pinning ALV down about did she rule out secondary gain. Ever elusive she tried to flip the switch on him and say look...there could be secondary gain in a sex tape. That wasn't very bright as every juror interviewed later opined the sex tape was blackmail she used against him and sparked the dire argument on the 26th. So the secondary gain would enure to Jodi Arias.
ALV was such a jerk and refused to answer and she had to be reminded by the judge to listen carefully and answer only the question as it is posed. Juan by this point was beyond angry with her and this was a day he would say sixty three times "YES. OR NO!" I thought she was, save for Samuels; of course, the worst expert witness I had ever seen. That was until Dr. F. was permitted to say aloud that Juan was going down slime alley because that is the only trick in his playbook. Then Bryan was permitted to say that Juan Martinez, a career civil servant was committing prosecutor misconduct.Literally. Juan did not object to either. I am sure he just grinned to himself as he knew what he had in store for Dr. F. ( the truth ) and that at that very moment Bryan committed career suicide. He would NEVER be called on again to do any work for any branch of Mesa Law Enforcement. Also Juan knew that the members of the jury could see through the b s . This wasn't his first Rodeo. It would take a lot more than the likes of Jodi Arias' "experts" to rattle him. By the time any and all of them got off the stand they had only one collective question, where do we go to get our reputations back?

You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the ole Lone Ranger
If you think you'll come into his house and mess with Juan Martinez
You better think .....
Again!

 

[Love Never Fails]

AZlawyer, if you come back tonight, I have a question. Remember the little poll taken on WS of when we bet the trial will end? You said February 5th. I was watching Beth Karas and she said "It will be March. Mark my words.". Her opinion only. I was starting to think June until yesterday! Lol. I am wondering why you think Beth would say March? She didn't explain and I am puzzled. I thought the defense had no more witnesses except for Geffner and Juan is pretty fast with witnesses. Do you think Jodi will take the stand and finish her testimony? Her allocution cannot be very long. I am hopeful this can be over very soon. It was really getting to me this week. Oh and one more thing, BK seems to think the defense will bring in more about the computers. Why?

 

[ShadyLady]

Has Jodi's manifest come out?