Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 11/14/14

[gcharlie]

Taylor Searle is one of the State's witnesses that Nurmi tried to get precluded.

Travis confided a lot in Taylor and did tell him quite a bit about his sexual relationship with Arias. So much for being a dirty little secret. It may be that Taylor can testify more about Travis' relative sexual inexperience prior to Arias and how Arias was the aggressor in the physical relationship.

It disturbs me so much that this witness is allowed to testify in the manner that she has, focusing on Travis and seemingly dismissive of Arias' role in their physical relationship. I'm waiting for her to start characterizing Travis as a sexual deviant, because that is her specialty. I know that Martinez will clear this up on cross and with his own witnesses, but it still strikes me as morally and ethically wrong this it is even allowed.

There is so much that will never be known. Each one of us will sort through information and come up with something that seems to fit the known facts.

 

[Smarty Jones]

Interesting (IMO) posts on FB today. One is found on the Juan Martinez Prosecutor Support page. It's a view of the current retrial written by a Juror from the Marissa DeVault trial. He's been in the courtroom. I felt that he offered a different perspective which focuses on the jury in the Arias trial.

https://www.facebook.com/JuanMartinezProsecutorSupportPage/posts/316748258518757

The observation re the Jodi Arias supporter in the courtroom is akin to saying "Free the Manson Murderers". JMO
Mods: if off-topic please let me know so I don't violate TOS. TY

 

[Tuba]

We can speculate but we may never know whether the killer resorted to planting material on Travis' p.c. or deliberately damaged it. We do know that the two of them had a flaming row on May 26 using text messages. On the night of May 26, we know Arias was busy hacking into Travis' Facebook because he caught her at it. She had already logged in when he tried to access his account. He accused her and he persisted. She admitted it. We thus have a sense of her state of mind, taking license to violate his security, but we don't know her purpose. Was she only spying or did she have the intent to alter content, maybe create havoc?

It was but one and a half more days before the files Defense questions register on the Compaq Presario. On May 28, she was already busy implementing her plan to kill Travis. Since she & Travis were now at tense odds, it may not have been a link that she sent him but instead, an infected email from a source he would not recognize as Arias. She may also have hacked other websites he used; why stop at Facebook! I still believe she brought CDs with her in June and that Travis wanted to see them, thinking they were a record of their trips and I believe that trips were no longer to be a shared & joyous memory but were now a reminder of his impending travel to Cancun without her, a sore subject indeed. I think the CDs were not what she purported them to be, not any longer. An image of bugs swarming all over the screen? Sounds about right. There was no further activity on the computer after 4:54 p.m., June 4, 2008.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

The aspect of her crime I find most weird is how she actually had sex with him, knowing she was going to kill him. So creepy.

I am probably one of the few who question the validity of them having sex that day. I realize nude pics were taken, but that is a far cry from an actual sex romp. Neither of them appeared happy in the pics either. I am thinking "staged" JMO

 

[PenElaine]

I figured it was not normally done. It's just weird how some people do not see how much in advance this crime was premeditated even with gas cans being in the car--full of gas! In the heat of the AZ desert, in the trunk with little to no air circulation.

Too bad she didn't blow herself up on the way there.

Oh after a morning of playing catch up and feeling a bit weirded out by some of the strange posts, your last line made me giggle. Thanks for the laugh!

 

[krkrjx]

A lot was happening on and around May 26-28, it seems. A lot of fighting, arguing, blaming, accusing, IMO. She had definitely decided to kill him by the time she staged the burglary, no doubt. And maybe even by the time she made the sex tape, but I am less certain of that. Possibly the sex tape was threatened to be sent to everyone TA knew, including his bishop. Maybe that is what they were arguing about when he called her a sociopath and "the worst thing that ever happened to me." Certainly whatever she had done or threatened to do was something major if it elicited such a response from him. That, too, may be something we will always wonder about but never really know for sure.

I agree with Caylee Advocate that in the nude photos taken that June day neither of them looks happy. Not one smile in any of the poses of either of them that I saw. And not only no smiles, but expressions that show indifference, then what looks like unhappiness, and finally on the face of Travis Alexander--fear.

 

[geevee]

Makes you wonder if she did it intentionally (the scam)....and obviously she had no money to pay him ever...

She didn't even have enough money in her bank account to cover the 200.00 check she wrote him for 'car payments'. When she deposited the 400.00 into the ***8006 account it gave her a balance of 548.65 - meaning she had 148.65 in that account, the check to Travis drawn on that account was for 200.00. The other ("business") account she deposited money into that morning was overdrawn when she made the deposits.

 

[tlckgram]

Which is totally ridiculous. Geez, Jodi Arian pretty much lived in a car. Taking road trips I and logging hundreds and hundreds of miles all the time. Why the need to borrow or buy gas cans if she never drove through the desert without extra gas? If that were true, wouldn't she already have gas cans?

Brilliant. I have never thought of that before. Such an obvious point!

 

[TDoc72]

Perhaps they were having anal sex? (Sorry, just thinking out loud) No condoms were found either.

Condoms were found in the 2nd rental car, along w/some knives & the hidden gun. I, too, am surprised that she never tried a pregnancy trap. I wonder if she ever thought about it.

 

[Steve44]

Condoms were found in the 2nd rental car, along w/some knives & the hidden gun. I, too, am surprised that she never tried a pregnancy trap. I wonder if she ever thought about it.

That's the scariest part, knives and a gun, no stress, she wasn't done.

 

[cindymac]

As previously reported on here Chris Hughes has been chatting via the blog on Karasoncrime.com. He made 2 points that I hadn't heard before; Lisa broke up with Travis because JA deliberately told a friend of Lisa's sister that her & Travis were still seeing each other and also that JA hadn't worked consistently since the summer before she met Travis. JA owed Travis a lot of money because of that & the only reason she moved back to Yreka was that she was financially destitute. Travis had stopped helping her out financially & nobody else would lend her any more money.

Lisa had also had the vicious anonymous email, and Ryan Burns testified that Arias was sneaking through Travis' phone and answered a message from Lisa, saying "Time to cuddle with Jodi. Good night." Add in the tire slashings and Lisa's door alarm going off, and it's no wonder she ended the relationship.

 

[ShadyLady]

Condoms were found in the 2nd rental car, along w/some knives & the hidden gun. I, too, am surprised that she never tried a pregnancy trap. I wonder if she ever thought about it.

Thoughts: Why wasn't the fact that knives were found in her "getway" car admitted?

And is there a website where it shows all the photos taken that afternoon?

Watching JM again in closing statements, I observed Jodi and try as she might, she KNEW Juan dissected her, and left nothing unexposed, all her dirty little pathetic lies. Even though he complimented her and said what a great memory and intelligence she had.....the obvious conclusion was at the end she was as dumb as a rock, and pretty arrogant at that. Juan got ten steps ahead of her.

 

[cindymac]

What stood out to me the most of all the premeditation was the rental car. When she went to pick it up, it was red. She asked for something other than red because red is too noticeable. This tells me that she did not want to risk anyone seeing a car in the area at the critical time that did not belong there. And that tells me that Travis did not know she was coming to see him--she would not have risked him possibly mentioning it to anyone. I do believe he may have known she was planning a visit at some point, just not that night, so when she showed up he was surprised but not totally so. Anyway...that deal about the soon-to-be-torture-murderer needing to swap the red car for a white car was huge for me.

That's the wonderful thing about the heap of premeditation evidence: each juror could latch on to something - be it the gas cans, "lost" phone charger, stolen gun - and once there was one thing that seemed indisputable, it would be easier to see the rest as evidence of premeditation too.

 

[cindymac]

The aspect of her crime I find most weird is how she actually had sex with him, knowing she was going to kill him. So creepy.

Personally, I don't believe for one moment that they had sex that day. I don't believe that he knew she was visiting, and I believe (as per the text messages a week or so earlier) that he was firmly and totally repulsed by her. And Arias knew this - that's why she killed him.

I think she turned up unannounced, he told her she could rest then get on her way, went about his business, ignoring her, and that the nude pics of Travis were taken without his consent, while he was napping, while the ones of herself were selfies. Then, when he was having a shower, she killed him.

 

[cindymac]

Jumping off ...

I wonder if she used birth control???

I think there were condoms in her things, when she was packing the car for a getaway, and arrested.

 

[cindymac]

Yes, she also didn't want any roommates or neighbors to recognize her car so she rents a non-descript car that doesn't stand out to LE and a neighbor is less likely to recall seeing close to the house the day of the murder

For me the nail in the pre-med coffin was the gas cans. I can just picture her filling them up in CA, ready to go kill a person. Then she fills them back up in Nevada...proving she did use the gas after the killing

The gas cans combined with the "lost" phone charger excuse for a dead phone work great together. She's all concerned about being stranded without gas but doesn't think to make sure her phone's fully-charged?

 

[katydid23]

Why would Jodi put *advertiser censored* on the computer on the day she came to murder Travis? I think she put the *advertiser censored* on, but before that...by sending him infected email or websites and she did it to be nasty and mess up his machine...I am not sure she knew then that she was going to kill him.

I just do not know how to figure her taking the time to put *advertiser censored* on the computer right before or after the murder because I am not seeing the reason for it. Not saying she didn't do it that night--just saying I cannot figure her reasons for needing his machine to have *advertiser censored* on it when she knew she was going to kill him. It would not be for her to be able to claim he was a sleaze to save her own life someday in the future--because I do not think she ever expected she would be caught or charged.

Anyone have any theories about why Killer would have purposely put *advertiser censored* on TA's computer on either Murder Eve or Murder Day?

I think it's a possibilty that she infected his computer. But maybe it was an accident that happened when she went to that google site which is known to be infected? Or it was MAYBE done purposely because she knew his computer would be looked at after his death, and she wanted him to be shamed/blamed/ etc.

 

[Steve44]

I hope Juan gets up tomorrow. Nurmis gotta know he's trying the juries patience. He sure is everyone else's.

 

[cindymac]

Why would Jodi put *advertiser censored* on the computer on the day she came to murder Travis? I think she put the *advertiser censored* on, but before that...by sending him infected email or websites and she did it to be nasty and mess up his machine...I am not sure she knew then that she was going to kill him.

I just do not know how to figure her taking the time to put *advertiser censored* on the computer right before or after the murder because I am not seeing the reason for it. Not saying she didn't do it that night--just saying I cannot figure her reasons for needing his machine to have *advertiser censored* on it when she knew she was going to kill him. It would not be for her to be able to claim he was a sleaze to save her own life someday in the future--because I do not think she ever expected she would be caught or charged.

Anyone have any theories about why Killer would have purposely put *advertiser censored* on TA's computer on either Murder Eve or Murder Day?

I agree with the idea that she infected him by email. Mimi Hall said (when the body was found on May 10) that Travis had caught her hacking into his email or Facebook a/c about a week before. That would be roughly about May 28, when the *advertiser censored* starts. She could have sent him an infected email, then logged into his email to click on (activate) the malware.

ETA: As for her reasons, she might have wanted to make things hard for him, as he used the computer a lot for his work, with the added bonus that it might come to light and malign him after she'd killed him, because (as now) she wanted to kill his reputation a well as his body.

 

[ShadyLady]

Just watch her micro expressions :boohoo:::laugh:

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 56 - Part 4 (Rebuttal and Juror Selection)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPJl-xXZ2Q

Remember before this trial Jodi had been coddled for YEARS by her paid shrinks, mitigator, creepy fans and her lawyers. Juan Martinez must have given her a rude awaking.