Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 6- Part 2

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No one walked into a sealed court room accidentally. So, its a rumor being promoted as fact, or someone who knew she was testifying leaked and invented a cover story.

Oh, come on now! How many times have you been looking for the rest room and mistakenly wandered into a courtroom where top-secret testimony was taking place?

;)
 
I wonder why the tweet with that pic says they would not be surprised if Hayden were slapped with contempt of court charges on Monday. Would that be for tweeting the witness was actually JA? Because he was not the only one tweeting that. It can't be for the photo--because the photo is not new.

It wouldn't be Troy Hayden since he was not in the courtroom, it would be his sources, and he will not have to reveal their identities.

Which constitutional amendment is that again? Oh yeah, the first amendment. I read that JSS is aware of that one.
 
She 'd know she'd get that audience to slime Travis. Maybe an even larger one, because of the manufactured drama.

AND she gets a shot at manipulating the jury into thinking she cares about sullying Travis ' reputation. A reluctant witness.

You may be on to something here. Hope I'm headed out of town and almost totally unplugging for a week but just wanted to say if I missed any responses from you that's why and I look forward to continuing our dialogue when I return I appreciate your posts.

:seeya:
 
Oh, come on now! How many times have you been looking for the rest room and mistakenly wandered into a courtroom where top-secret testimony was taking place?

;)

Exactly my point. "Oopsie! Sorry, don't mind me. Carry on, please."
 
I was thinking about the VIS (victim impact statements) from yesterday and I realized why I felt so disturbed.

It's not just the sadness of the case, which is certainly very, very sad and tragic. But it's what the 2 Alexander siblings reported during their allocutions: that their lives are ruined and the entire family is ruined and has been since Travis died.

This is not what Travis would want for his family. This is far beyond grieving. This gives the evil killer so much more power and the family has gotten caught in the cycle of it. Yes I know the delay in getting this case completed only adds mightily to the pain. But the family knows, absolutely knows, Arias is going to prison for the rest of her life. She may be on death row as well, but for certain she will never be free.

There's something fundamentally unhealthy happening and I wish that family could get the kind of help they so clearly need. I know one doesn't ever just 'get over' the violent murder of a loved one and closure is a fantasy, but there has to be help available somewhere and there have to be ways of coping that can bring some modicum of peace. The PTSD, the feelings of not wanting to live anymore, the deep depressions lasting many years, the breakup of marriages, the cycle just keeps going on and on and it almost seems like it's gotten worse as time goes on. That's what struck me hearing the words of Tanisha and then Steven.

Anyway, that's what resonated with me after thinking about yesterday's court session. Somebody please, please get that family some help. Allowing Arias to destroy an entire family gives the killer so much power and for what? Can Travis' shining spirit not be felt by his family? Do they not feel enveloped in his love? Sad, terribly sad.

This struck me also and made me think of what the Dali Lama says - that we choose how long to be unhappy after a sad event. The choice is whether you want to be unhappy for one day or 20 years. The event will still be the same, either way.

As you said, Travis would not want this, he would want his loved ones to live a happy life I am sure. I wish they would stop torturing themselves.
 
This struck me also and made me think of what the Dali Lama says - that we choose how long to be unhappy after a sad event. The choice is whether you want to be unhappy for one day or 20 years. The event will still be the same, either way.

As you said, Travis would not want this, he would want his loved ones to live a happy life I am sure. I wish they would stop torturing themselves.

from my own personal experience, the true grieving doesn't even begin until the trial phase is over. It's all sort of on pause until then and frankly, there are times when the drama and chaos of the trial is a welcome distraction from the huge nonsensical void that awaits.
 
I'll say it. It is my personal belief that Michael Kiefer knows everything that's going on with that defense. I'll go further to state I believe he is actually doing things to help them with their case (and I will cite the Daryl Brewer interview to support my opinion). I believe he is likely one of the 3 sources and only didn't "break" this story to draw more obvious heat to himself after outing the jury foreperson last year (and getting busted on it). Last year he was either in contact WITH that foreperson or someone close to the jury who knew that detail.


KCL,
i have said that all along and agree completely but he isn't by himself. There isn't just one corrupt person involved. And THAT scares me. He is bad. Very bad. But who is assisting him? I think one is Maria. And wow. That just blows me away.
 
Wow. So much drama for the pleasure of spending the rest of her life in prison. Even if she gets the death penalty it will be Life...because I just do not see it ever being carried out. JMO.

I agree with Ocean that appearances mean everything to CMJA. She's said as much herself.

(Paraphrasing) Flores- this isnt a time to worry about your reputation. That doesn't matter.

Her: oh but it does. That affects me for the rest of my life.

I think she's fully adopted the persona of victim and will never relinquish that role, in large part because it's the only lie she has to use as a shield and disguise against the reality of herself as a flat out sociopathic cold blooded murdering loser.
 
Yeah, all those sidebars, all those in camera hearings, endlessly. And now she wants to blame the lengthening of the trial on the media?

And, JSS determined there were enough jurors to proceed. I grimaced when I read that, thinking she should know full well to expect the exceedingly nasty unexpected from the DT by now!
 
MK tweeted this yesterday
Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 15m15 minutes ago
Stephens says there is minimal harm to the media and public because video and transcript will be available after trial. Denied. #JodiArias
0 replies 13 retweets 12 favorites
Reply Retweet13 Favorite12

So which is it , JSS? Sealed or not?


Oh well. If MK said it, its true!! What a liar he is. He can quote her and the courts all day long but he is one of the insiders.
 
KCL,
i have said that all along and agree completely but he isn't by himself. There isn't just one corrupt person involved. And THAT scares me. He is bad. Very bad. But who is assisting him? I think one is Maria. And wow. That just blows me away.

He would call them "sources" I'm sure.
 
Yeah, she seals everything including her reasoning. And we are supposed to believe once this trial is over she will unseal? Who is she kidding? It's as if she's lost the plot at this point.

LOL, or the script!
 
You may be on to something here. Hope I'm headed out of town and almost totally unplugging for a week but just wanted to say if I missed any responses from you that's why and I look forward to continuing our dialogue when I return I appreciate your posts.

:seeya:

Thanks. Likewise, me too, and have a good trip way far away from even thoughts of this mess. :)
 
Add it up. Remorse is added to her mitigators this time. Nurmi's opening dwelt upon Travis loving her, and she him-- also a new twist.

Bolded By Me and Cut (above).

These words by Hope4More struck a chord. Why would Arias want the court sealed? There are many possibilities but one that shines through is she doesn't want to 'do' remorse in public, if she is the witness. Look how she has twisted and turned and squirmed around showing regret? To have to do this publicly - in order to more effectively appeal for her life - would be humiliating for this wicked, manipulating murderer. The danger is that the immediate outcry on her insincerity would fill the media and possibly get back to the jury. Arias doesn't want to grovel for her life, act remorse (when she has strongly resisted this so far) without a potential reward of waying one juror. Maybe she won't display sorow again, I'm speculating like everyone, based on her malicious standard behaviour.
 
And the three witnesses/leaked by would be, KN JW and MD(mitigation specialist)

Woah-Ok, I'm about 600 comments behind--so please forgive me, but is JA the "mystery witness"?

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