Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 6 - Part 3

[lilyet]

I think they will reverse the decision and let media and public in. My question is what happens after that? Will the defense appeal the appeal? Can and will this go all the way to the AZ Supreme Court? Mistrial?

Have been wondering the same exact thing.

 

[ElleElle]

Miss Judy... My biggest problem with the mother is that she tried to sell those forged pedophilia letters to National Enquirer. I do agree that Sue is the pot-stirrer.

Wasn't one of the Helio phones found in aunt Sue's car too?

 

[rose222]

How do you think the appeals court will rule next week? No need or an educated guess - just tell me your gut feeling!

Was reading Aunt Sue's comment just now. I guess there really is something to the idea that we can inherit bad or good genes. If my relative murdered someone, even if there was abuse, I would be so sorrowful for the family of the deceased person, I would never, ever say anything to disparage them. She is vile and vulgar to do so. I wish JM could call her to the stand and show the jury what she is. I realize he cannot do so. But she disgusts me. Her neice is much like her, only worse. And I believe the aunt was in on hiding that hello phone and giving it to the defense. Isn't that called obstruction of justice?

Kiefer is my first guess. It is so like him. I also believe he is the author of that horrible tweet about the VIS.

I'm pessimistic about the court ruling in favour of the media.

I've given up hope of any obstruction of justice charges since the KC trial. I'm not even sure that this criminal will receive the appropriate punishment for her crime.

Keifer...Like many of you, I don't care about his involvement in politics or even hating Juan Martinez. However his blatant disregard for the victims in this case makes me think that he isn't altogether *right* in his mind. I won't be surprised if he's involved in the latest secret witness saga.

 

[Miss Judy]

Wasn't one of the Helio phones found in aunt Sue's car too?

That's what I thought as well. Does anyone remember if it was Mom or Aunt Sue who was bringing Jodi the new rental car when they arrested her?

 

[rose222]

Wasn't one of the Helio phones found in aunt Sue's car too?

I think it was found in the grandfather's car. Sue found it though. :notgood:

 

[rose222]

I forgot about the letters. It surprised me that it was supposedly her that tried it instead of her twin sister Sue. It seemed a more "Sue" kind of thing, and I'd bet that she was behind it (just speculation on my end, and certainly CERTAINLY doesn't excuse Sandy doing it). It was a dirtbag move but it's the only thing other than the inappropriate behavior in court that struck me as really low on Sandy's end.

Who was the one that mocked/rolled her eyes when Travis' sister was crying? In her interview with Flores Sandy seemed quite pitiable. Things turned around quickly though.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I'm pessimistic about the court ruling in favour of the media.

I've given up hope of any obstruction of justice charges since the KC trial. I'm not even sure that this criminal will receive the appropriate punishment for her crime.

Keifer...Like many of you, I don't care about his involvement in politics or even hating Juan Martinez. However his blatant disregard for the victims in this case makes me think that he isn't altogether *right* in his mind. I won't be surprised if he's involved in the latest secret witness saga.

Rose, I feel exactly this way after the CA verdict. I was depressed for days that little Caylee was murdered and tossed and the jury just wanted to go home rather than putting the murderer behind bars. Makes you want to give up. But we persevere because we have to believe this jury will sentence her. At least we know Jodi is convicted of first degree murder. Now if we could just make sure she never speaks again.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Have been wondering the same exact thing.

I keep wondering why Nurmi said if the court is open for this witness, the defense attorneys would be scrutinized for years to come. What is he afraid of? Any ideas?

 

[Hope4More]

The first leak by Justus that she was testifying, was posted at 12:57pm on a website....does anyone know what timezone that time reflects? Was it AZ time???

 

[Miss Judy]

Who was the one that mocked/rolled her eyes when Travis' sister was crying? In her interview with Flores Sandy seemed quite pitiable. Things turned around quickly though.

I don't know; which was it, Sandy or Sue? Twins n' all that. Just sayin'. (Whichever one, it's a crass thing to do, of course.)

 

[Hope4More]

Who was the one that mocked/rolled her eyes when Travis' sister was crying? In her interview with Flores Sandy seemed quite pitiable. Things turned around quickly though.

I didn't feel much pity for her, truth be told. She never mentioned his family, never expressed real horror, and what seemed to bother her the most was her view that CMJA had squandered a bright future.

 

[Love Never Fails]

The first leak by Justus that she was testifying, was posted at 12:57pm on a website....does anyone know what timezone that time reflects? Was it AZ time???

Not sure. My posts here are in Eastern time where I am. Is every website different? I say it had to be someone posting in real time there at the courtroom

 

[lilyet]

I keep wondering why Nurmi said if the court is open for this witness, the defense attorneys would be scrutinized for years to come. What is he afraid of? Any ideas?

Wow, I had not heard that. Who did he say this to, the court? What an odd mysterious thing to say.

 

[Nali87]

I keep wondering why Nurmi said if the court is open for this witness, the defense attorneys would be scrutinized for years to come. What is he afraid of? Any ideas?

In my (snarky) opinion, Mr. Kirk Nurmi just doesn't want anymore pics of him with his finger up his nose showing up on the world wide web when you google his name.

 

[ElleElle]

Kiefer is my first guess. It is so like him. I also believe he is the author of that horrible tweet about the VIS.

Yes, but it was a closed/sealed courtroom, how would he know?

It would seem he has connections at the courthouse?

I think it went this way:

Sandy- Sue - Kiefer/Hayden.

Good job throwing the Alexanders under the bus. Just goes to show you how the classless, immature gene does get passed along.

 

[bznbear]

This aspect confuses me. It's like the Judge saying to JA: ok, we'll clear out the courthouse in the hope that you'll tell us the truth under the implicit assumption that once the truth is told that the penalty will be more lenient. However, we only got to this sordid place due to JA's constant lying - first to protect herself, but later in repeated, bold contempts of the court, which only now would be admitted to? And, in this scenario, that is supposed to be a mitigating factor???

The logic is that all criminals, if only they come to Jesus and tell the truth after a lifetime of lying, will be forgiven (to an extent) in the State of Arizona. This is familiar to me: I do remember the nuns in my Catholic grade-school making that same lofty promise to me as a child, but not actually following through personally in their classroom demeanor. My hands may have swollen by being repeatedly beaten by the ruler, but at least I knew from the same nuns that God loved me and would welcome me into heaven.....yeah, right. Let's hope that JA can feel the same cognitive dissonance once the DP verdict is handed down.

(note on edit: although I still don't feel convinced that the mystery witness is JA. It defies judicial logic).

You pose a most intriguing idea, jbc. Although, I don't believe JA would ever agree to humble herself like that before the court. If anything, she's more determined than ever to clear her name, and at the expense of the man she butchered, his loved ones, and anyone else who strays into her path of destruction. imho

 

[janx]

The first leak by Justus that she was testifying, was posted at 12:57pm on a website....does anyone know what timezone that time reflects? Was it AZ time???

You beat me to it! (That question, that is.) That website is not on AZ time. There's no way to know what time the comment was posted.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Yes, but it was a closed/sealed courtroom, how would he know?

It would seem he has connections at the courthouse?

I think it went this way:

Sandy- Sue - Kiefer/Hayden.

Good job throwing the Alexanders under the bus. Just goes to show you how the classless, immature gene does get passed along.

The post was before it was sealed, likely during lunch. The post was at 12:57 PM.

 

[ElleElle]

That's what I thought as well. Does anyone remember if it was Mom or Aunt Sue who was bringing Jodi the new rental car when they arrested her?

Also, wasn't this Helio the one that magically appearing containing the infamous sex recording?

 

[Love Never Fails]

Wow, I had not heard that. Who did he say this to, the court? What an odd mysterious thing to say.

This was in court on Friday when the press opposed JSS decision and a hearing was held. That was Nurmi's statement. That hearing was open and recorded. I wonder why he said it.