Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 6 - Part 3

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I haven't seen Jodi's Mom glaring at the Alexanders; as a matter of fact, at least one reporter mentioned that she appeared "visibly shaken" as she left the courtroom after the VIS. I think that Sandy doesn't believe her daughter's lies and is horrified by all of this. HOWEVER. Put her in her twin sister Sue's company (Sue being the one who posted that tweet on the previous page about the Alexanders and contempt) and it's a different story. When Sue wasn't with her during the trial she was quiet and unemotional. With Sue by her side she was animated, laughing, and quite unprofessional and disrespectful for a court of law; and a capital murder case at that! Sue is much more the Alpha Female, and I see a lot of Jodi there.

It's Sue that's been the most horribly vocal about her niece, especially that despicable post she made on the anniversary of Travis' murder about it being the anniversary of her niece successfully defending herself against her attacker and how it showed domestic abuse victims that sometimes their abusers got what they deserved. She seriously put that out there. She seems the most like Jodi to me. Jodi's "advice" to victims of domestic violence was to "document everything" (instead of LEAVING or GETTING HELP). Sue's message to the abused is that sometimes you can successfully KILL your abuser (and isn't that an awesome thing?). She's all cuddly with the fine folks at JAII and knee deep in the fund-raising shenanigans.

Arias' siblings were also quiet at first until Auntie Sue decided to go on the offensive against the Alexanders. I don't blame them too much, as they're young and have Sue as an example. And frankly, they're being attacked on a daily basis online, really nasty stuff. I understand their anger, but I think it's misdirected. Sue just eggs them on.

TL;DR: Sue's the nasty, low-class villain in that family tree, second only to Jodi. IMO, MOO, etc.

Miss Judy... My biggest problem with the mother is that she tried to sell those forged pedophilia letters to National Enquirer. I do agree that Sue is the pot-stirrer.
 
Miss Judy... My biggest problem with the mother is that she tried to sell those forged pedophilia letters to National Enquirer. I do agree that Sue is the pot-stirrer.

And how would that move have helped her daughter? It wouldn't have. Just another thing to do out of spite! Smdh.
 
After the secret testimony ended , who from inside the room could have leaked? The whole list:

-The judge-JSS
-Jurors
-JM
-Alexander family
-court staff
- Nurmi and Wilmott
- Maria DL

IMO there are only 3 logical possibilities, and ALL are on the DT.

Adding...either Troy Hayden is unprofessional enough to report rumors as sourced facts or CMJA took the stand and he received confirmation of that from at least 2 other people who knew she testified and the gist of what she said.

Hope, there are a few more parties who were in the courtroom that are not on your list:

Det. Flores
Jodi Arias
the witness, if not Arias
 
Smart reporter no? I quite like Keifer, I think he's just not super keen on the DP so comes across as a JA supporter, I don't think that's accurate or fair really.

*ducking now!!*

Kiefer is a Travis hater. There are some who posted on WS during the guilt phase of trial who were actually in the courtroom and heard him utter despicable remarks about THE VICTIM of this crime. Uncalled for, and totally unprofessional.

It's OK to be anti-DP; lots of fine upstanding citizens are. And even reporters will have opinions, which is also OK. But when one goes around in a public area--a courtroom during a recess, let's say--uttering their personal opinion of a crime victim, and that opinion is not based in fact at all, they lose credibility in my book.

Kiefer can love the defense and hate the prosecution all he wants, or vice versa. I don't care which way one leans as long as they report the facts. However, I do appreciate conduct becoming a professional--which by his conduct Kiefer has shown he is not. IMO.
 
I Think that Detective Flores, because of all the drama with his wife, wouldn't leak anything. The Alexanders have been in tons of sealed in chamber meetings, but (to my knowledge) none of what has been discussed has been made public. They too, probably, wouldn't be talking about sealed proceedings (especially not since the DT is quick to file misconduct motions). JM, of course, wouldn't.

Jurors - doubtful that the media would communicate with them.
I think the obvious culprits are jail and court staff. And/or someone that works in the DT team offices. And Jodi Arias, her damnself. Just to create problems.
 
Hope, there are a few more parties who were in the courtroom that are not on your list:

Det. Flores
Jodi Arias
the witness, if not Arias

Wait, where was it reported that Det. Flores was in the court room during the testimony? I don't remember seeing that.
 
I Think that Detective Flores, because of all the drama with his wife, wouldn't leak anything. The Alexanders have been in tons of sealed in chamber meetings, but (to my knowledge) none of what has been discussed has been made public. They too, probably, wouldn't be talking about sealed proceedings (especially not since the DT is quick to file misconduct motions). JM, of course, wouldn't.

Jurors - doubtful that the media would communicate with them.
I think the obvious culprits are jail and court staff. And/or someone that works in the DT team offices. And Jodi Arias, her damnself. Just to create problems.

My guess is Maria + Sue/Mother. Second guess is Keifer. I don't want to even think about a court staff being involved in this. :scared:
 
It does not make sense that the Alexander's would release any top secret info. They want this trial over and the killer locked up for good.
 
How do you think the appeals court will rule next week? No need or an educated guess - just tell me your gut feeling!
 
Was reading Aunt Sue's comment just now. I guess there really is something to the idea that we can inherit bad or good genes. If my relative murdered someone, even if there was abuse, I would be so sorrowful for the family of the deceased person, I would never, ever say anything to disparage them. She is vile and vulgar to do so. I wish JM could call her to the stand and show the jury what she is. I realize he cannot do so. But she disgusts me. Her neice is much like her, only worse. And I believe the aunt was in on hiding that hello phone and giving it to the defense. Isn't that called obstruction of justice?
 
How do you think the appeals court will rule next week? No need or an educated guess - just tell me your gut feeling!

GUT Feeling only, They will allow the mystery witness to expose identity, then a real s;;;show will happen.
 
How do you think the appeals court will rule next week? No need or an educated guess - just tell me your gut feeling!
No clue. Beginning to feel we are in a Florida trial again. I would pray they would side with the first amendment.
 
My guess is Maria + Sue/Mother. Second guess is Keifer. I don't want to even think about a court staff being involved in this. :scared:
Kiefer is my first guess. It is so like him. I also believe he is the author of that horrible tweet about the VIS.
 
Kiefer is a Travis hater. There are some who posted on WS during the guilt phase of trial who were actually in the courtroom and heard him utter despicable remarks about THE VICTIM of this crime. Uncalled for, and totally unprofessional.

It's OK to be anti-DP; lots of fine upstanding citizens are. And even reporters will have opinions, which is also OK. But when one goes around in a public area--a courtroom during a recess, let's say--uttering their personal opinion of a crime victim, and that opinion is not based in fact at all, they lose credibility in my book.

Kiefer can love the defense and hate the prosecution all he wants, or vice versa. I don't care which way one leans as long as they report the facts. However, I do appreciate conduct becoming a professional--which by his conduct Kiefer has shown he is not. IMO.
Amen!
 
How do you think the appeals court will rule next week? No need or an educated guess - just tell me your gut feeling!

I think they will overturn it. I don't see how they can't but I'm not a lawyer
 
Part of Jodi's argument during closing last time is that she is beneficial because she can continue to donate all of her glorious hair to locks of love in prison. That was really her argument. Well, I notice she is greying and locks doesn't accept any hair with grey in it. I guess she will have to find something else that makes her a benefit to society....anyone.....anyone?
To be honest with, i'm surprised she doesn't have a girly side ponytail.
 
In my opinion only, Judge Stevens is so caught up in the stress, strain and dramatics of all the court room drama and is "in a fog" I would hope the appeals court will be objective and look at the law and not end up "in the fog". But, since it is unknown why this witness has to secreted, maybe there is something rather significant that we watchers don't know or don't get.
 
How do you think the appeals court will rule next week? No need or an educated guess - just tell me your gut feeling!
I think they will reverse the decision and let media and public in. My question is what happens after that? Will the defense appeal the appeal? Can and will this go all the way to the AZ Supreme Court? Mistrial?
 
Miss Judy... My biggest problem with the mother is that she tried to sell those forged pedophilia letters to National Enquirer. I do agree that Sue is the pot-stirrer.

I forgot about the letters. It surprised me that it was supposedly her that tried it instead of her twin sister Sue. It seemed a more "Sue" kind of thing, and I'd bet that she was behind it (just speculation on my end, and certainly CERTAINLY doesn't excuse Sandy doing it). It was a dirtbag move but it's the only thing other than the inappropriate behavior in court that struck me as really low on Sandy's end.
 
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