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Well...If JB's DNA was on any of the GB4, why wouldn't he be charged with their murders just as Rita and Colleen?
Well...If JB's DNA was on any of the GB4, why wouldn't he be charged with their murders just as Rita and Colleen?
I think that fellow posters are stating that John Bittrolff can't be connected to the bodies on Gilgo beach, nor can Joesph Brewer - As they believe LE has a DNA sample from at least one Gilgo beach victims that eliminates both of them
But it could be anything at this point. LE just said there were dissimilarities. It could be anything from dna or a very distinct signature.*sigh* Yeah...I was hoping JB was responsible for all. This means there may be 2 sk's on the loose on Long Island. Too much for comfort.
Check and check, Foreigner. My research points in the same direction. Have you been able to make a connection from PL's fb friend JT to Rita? I looked some yesterday, but just couldn't get my head in the game. I'll see what I can dig up this morning while having my coffee, but if you've already found something, feel free to save me the search.![]()
This all came from an affidavit that Newsday obtained. According to that affidavit, the investigation began on August 16 when the crime lab was alerted by the hit from his brother's DNA when it was entered into the system. They started following the family members on January 11.
There's an article in Newsday dated July 24, 2014 ...
Just wondering, aren't we putting up the links to Newsday stories? For some reason I can always read that paper without being told I need to subscribe (maybe I have a lifetime subscription or something).
Just wondering, aren't we putting up the links to Newsday stories? For some reason I can always read that paper without being told I need to subscribe (maybe I have a lifetime subscription or something).
Maybe you're an Optimum subscriber?
Nope, just checked out Optimum Online, that's a pretty sweet deal. It couldn't be because I'm forever clearing my cache, could it?
Another thing I found interesting: Colleen McNamee was last seen getting into a small blue car in front of the Blue Dawn Diner in Islandia. The car drove east on Veterans Memorial Hwy. Her body was found in Shirley,off William Floyd Parkway, south of the LI Expressway. So I looked that up on google maps. (Okay, don't hate me...I've been all over the map this morning) I noticed that Revilo Ave. is right in that area. Just this morning I was looking up something or someone and got a Revilo Dr. address. Now I can't figure out who or what I was looking at that gave me that address. Looking through my history now. I know I did some digging on possible Barthelemy connections to the area, and also some digging on Costilla connections to the area, but I can't for the life of me recall how that Revilo addy came up.
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ETA: Found it!! It was someone named Sandrine Barthelemy! Found it because I was curious as to how Amanda B. might have met Melissa, since Melissa was from Buffalo. No time to check this out further right now. Interesting, though. Might be just a coincidence, but it's an odd one, for sure.
OK, I am desperately trying to catch up here. Two days ago I wanted to check in but got distracted.
So, I will start here: Almost since the beginning, we have discussed the killers focus and obsession with MB. We noted how he seemed particularly invested in her over the rest of the GB4. We know that this JB has connections to Rita T and that MB was best friend's with Rita's daughter. We also know that JB lived or is associated with Shirley, Mastic Beach, Moriches, and Manorville by 2003 (Thinking of JT and the slight built male found in 2003) Which reminds me of the exit numbers, near Manorville, and the rest stops off the LIE where gay men set up dates. Then I think of JT's head and hands, IIRC, being found near Jones Beach Parking Area also known as a place where gay men met for "dates."). It has also been stated on this thread that before Manorville he had an address that was near the shore across from Fire Island. (Thinking of 1996 JD "Legs"/Fire Island)
It is important to note that LE has NOT SAID that JB is not suspected in GB4. They have only said that there is no evidence to connect him or to link the cases at this time. I don't think they have ruled him out and LE has NEVER said anything about DNA being found on GB4 or AC4.
Things We Know:
He is a near 50 white male
He is a construction worker/carpenter which infers he knows how to use a saw and or power tools. (He likely has a shop to work in.)
He has a criminal history going back to 1987. (He would have been 21 years old.)
He appears to be at least loosely linked with this "Ministry." (I'm thinking of facing the AC4 to the East and wrapping the GB4 in burlap which has been sometimes linked to an old religious consequence/reference to wearing a hair shirt. A form of penance.)
He has had a DUI (Thinking of Drunk White guy.)
He has been referred to as a hunter.
JB has lived in Manorville and near Fire Island.
Kim Raffo lived in the same town as JB, at some point.
CM, SC and RT where killed in the fall into early winter 1993 and 1994...so was JD Fire Island 1996... who was also found in January.
AC4 were killed in the fall of 2006
GB4 were all killed in the summer months June-Labor Day. (2007-2010)
AC LE believes there may be a connection between GB4 and AC4
Something interesting that I found:
There is only one person listed in NY with his wife's name. I can't confirm with 100% certainty that it is his wife but this PAA is associated/working for a company at this location:
http://www.zoominfo.com/c/Metro-Door-Inc/54708763 An Address very near the one on Sunrise that we all delved into on Sunrise Hwy
I know I looked at this specific company re: GB4...couldn't begin to tell you when but I believe it was IRT all those LLCs.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/3...1!3m1!1s0x89e8341a29663787:0x72682bde8b4c5dd7
I will leave open the possibility that this JB is responsible for AC4, GB4, Manorville and Fire Island.