Ron C. # 11

[LFlorida]

I am looking for something specific to Putnam County as Florida has a standard law unless the county chooses to change the hours - such as Miami Dade you can buy it 24/7. Also the percentage of alcohol content makes a difference, what you are getting in gas station is not the same as what you buy at a liquor store. I will put link in if I can find something specific to Putnam County.

I was not aware of this, BusyLady, so thank U.

 

[Malesherbes]

I am looking for something specific to Putnam County as Florida has a standard law unless the county chooses to change the hours - such as Miami Dade you can buy it 24/7. Also the percentage of alcohol content makes a difference, what you are getting in gas station is not the same as what you buy at a liquor store. I will put link in if I can find something specific to Putnam County.

I actually emailed TJ Hart about this alcohol issue, and he said a clerk could get in trouble over this-

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Here is where the story leaves me flat. . . RC would not be calling MC and bugging her all night, he was working - so why turn off her phone?

If a phone is charging, is it "off"? Can be, yes?

Although cell phones are everywhere, not all employers allow people to chat on their cell phones while at work and employeed have to wait until break time or lunch time.

RE: RC's 10 hour shift 5-3. There would be two 15 minutes breaks - with pay and one 30 minute or 60 sixty minute lunch without pay. Perhaps he took his lunch hour (or half hour) first and refreshed himself with food and drink during his breaks. Start at 5:00, break at 8:30-8:45p, next break at 11:45 - 12:00 then off 3 hours later. Makes sense to break up the night into sections. Probably why he was hungry at the store and got peanuts.

LOL I know a few people who put peanuts in their beer. Don't know why. I guess it makes it salty.

 

[sleepingheart]

What kind of link are you looking for? Are you asking if drug testings are ordered during custody issues?

A link that says DFS & LE require drug testing & one that says if a drug test is positive the children are removed from the home...just the part I bolded. Thanks!

 

[Busylady]

I am not sure why they would get in trouble, it appears from checking with various convenience and gas stores in Putnam County the only issue is sale on Sunday and no individual item can be over 32 oz (not sure I understand that part).

I actually emailed TJ Hart about this alcohol issue, and he said a clerk could get in trouble over this-

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Busy, 3.2 beer is sold in package stores and 6.0 beer is sold in liquor stores. Does that help?

32 oz limit means no pony kegs or kegs I guess?

Also it is not unusual for a man who works the late shift to grab some beer on the way home. People when they first get off work do not normally rush home to bed. They treat the time as if they were getting off work like anyone else at 5:00pm. They watch tv. They put their feet up and unwind a bit.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

A link that says DFS & LE require drug testing & one that says if a drug test is positive the children are removed from the home...just the part I bolded. Thanks!

That's not what I said, get it right.

 

[debs]

A link that says DFS & LE require drug testing & one that says if a drug test is positive the children are removed from the home...just the part I bolded. Thanks!

That's not what I said, get it right.

Sure it is:
Originally Posted by KOOL LOOK
And I would like to add: If drugs, suspicions of drugs are a contingency, DCF and LE does require drug testing, if they come back positive you don't retain custody of the kids. I can tell you names upon names just in my area of the households where dcf was involved and the parents are required to take drug tests. It's a common tool for DCF, not to mention the courts can and does enforce them upon granting child custody.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Sure it is:
Originally Posted by KOOL LOOK
And I would like to add: If drugs, suspicions of drugs are a contingency, DCF and LE does require drug testing, if they come back positive you don't retain custody of the kids. I can tell you names upon names just in my area of the households where dcf was involved and the parents are required to take drug tests. It's a common tool for DCF, not to mention the courts can and does enforce them upon granting child custody.

Yes that's my quote, that's my words, and no it's not what I said as it was not referenced in the other post as I had said it in this post, Debs. Exactly what is your point?

 

[Donjeta]

I have no idea what you are disagreeing about.

Is there something in the court docs about drug testsbeing required of Ron or anyone else connected with Haleigh?

 

[sleepingheart]

That's not what I said, get it right.

Oh...what did you say then? But is there a link to what you DID say? TIA!

 

[sleepingheart]

And I would like to add: If drugs, suspicions of drugs are a contingency, DCF and LE does require drug testing, if they come back positive you don't retain custody of the kids. I can tell you names upon names just in my area of the households where dcf was involved and the parents are required to take drug tests. It's a common tool for DCF, not to mention the courts can and does enforce them upon granting child custody.

LE knows lots more than we do. Seems with the new investigators, we're getting more info on a regular basis. I believe they have their suspect or suspects and are gathering corroborating evidence in order to gain an arrest and make it stick, because Haleigh or her body has not been found, so the threshold for them is different than having Haleigh to move forward.

They arrested Caycee when they received corroborating evidence of the forensic testing of decomp that came back positive in the car, along with the cholorform and dead hair forensics.

If it is a family abduction, and Haleigh is safe and alive, if LE knows this, then it's a cat and mouse kind of investigation.

You told me to "get it right", and I certainly don't want to twist anyones words the wrong way, so I went back and quoted your post again. The part I bolded above, the part that says "And I would like to add: If drugs, suspicions of drugs are a contingency, DCF and LE does require drug testing, if they come back positive you don't retain custody of the kids" is what I asked if you had a link for. If not, that's fine; I was just very interested in what you said and wanted to read up on it. TIA!

 

[DotsEyes]

I know that here, if either parent mentions drug use on the part of the other, BOTH get sent to get tested straight from the courtroom and they have 4 hours to "get 'er done". The judges here consider it a very damning accusation and do not play around with people accusing each other of doing illegal drugs in contested custody hearings. And heaven can't help you if you make that accusation and then you come back positive for drugs. The judge will also require new spouses or live-ins to get the test within those 4 hours as well.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I know that here, if either parent mentions drug use on the part of the other, BOTH get sent to get tested straight from the courtroom and they have 4 hours to "get 'er done". The judges here consider it a very damning accusation and do not play around with people accusing each other of doing illegal drugs in contested custody hearings. And heaven can't help you if you make that accusation and then you come back positive for drugs. The judge will also require new spouses or live-ins to get the test within those 4 hours as well.

Thank you Darling. Links can be found to substantiate this just by googling for all to see and learn if their interested. I have actual proof of my knowledge and claims, not to mention those I know in my own life who have been through custody litigation, job issues or anything that is presented and is a point of contingency, the court takes notice and acts with an order for drug testing.

Even follow up drug testing I've seen over and over especially if social services are involved, and I think that's a good thing for all involved. It just makes sense.

We know statistically youth experiment or at least try some type of drug. I fully believe and hope Crystal and Ron grow out of it, if they haven't already. When I mentioned drugs, the courts and drug issues, I wasn't meaning Ron and Crystals final custody order from the court. I was talking in general if a party involved in a proceeding brought it up to the courts attention. Never was I saying or accusing that either parent was accussed in court for illicit drug use and was ordered to be drug tested.

Thank you DE for adding your input.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I know that here, if either parent mentions drug use on the part of the other, BOTH get sent to get tested straight from the courtroom and they have 4 hours to "get 'er done". The judges here consider it a very damning accusation and do not play around with people accusing each other of doing illegal drugs in contested custody hearings. And heaven can't help you if you make that accusation and then you come back positive for drugs. The judge will also require new spouses or live-ins to get the test within those 4 hours as well.

Not in my state unfortunately DotsEyes. I can't tell you how many times that I've been to court as a Guardian ad Litem KNOWING that one or both of the parents were high right then, only to have the court set up an appointment for them to be drug tested. There are SO many ways to pass a drug test, especially if they are given advanced warning. I wish the courts here would send them right then for testing and I wish they would do hair strand testing more often. (I know it costs the state more, but what's the point if they're not getting to the truth) ...Sigh....

 

[LFlorida]

FWIW in evaluating things you read on here...

There is no such thing as 3.2 beer sold in the State of Florida.

You can buy beer, wine, and hard liquor 7 days a week in Putnam County, Florida. I have not looked up the Alachua County ordinances, but I believe that the home of the Gators sells alcohol 7 days a week, also.

FWIW.

 

[Indiana at Heart]

Yeah I always bought wine on sundays. but hmm whats the big deal about Sunday beer sales anyway? Ron bought beer Tuesday morning!

 

[PinkyPoo]

I buy all my beer and wine on Thrusday mornings.
I don't understand the point.

 

[stilettos]

You told me to "get it right", and I certainly don't want to twist anyones words the wrong way, so I went back and quoted your post again. The part I bolded above, the part that says "And I would like to add: If drugs, suspicions of drugs are a contingency, DCF and LE does require drug testing, if they come back positive you don't retain custody of the kids" is what I asked if you had a link for. If not, that's fine; I was just very interested in what you said and wanted to read up on it. TIA!

I do know that here in GA local DCFS workers have stated that if parents are not impaired enough to be a danger to their children, even dealers can be good parents. Scary, huh? I know this because I went in with proof of arrest and blood test on a parent of a child in our youth group. The only proviso, meth labs. They will take your kids immediately.

 

[LFlorida]

I am looking for something specific to Putnam County as Florida has a standard law unless the county chooses to change the hours - such as Miami Dade you can buy it 24/7. Also the percentage of alcohol content makes a difference, what you are getting in gas station is not the same as what you buy at a liquor store. I will put link in if I can find something specific to Putnam County.

Just this.