Ron C. #4

[texasmommy39]

Has any one found any domestic violence or assault charges on Ron?
I have a hard time believing a 25 yo hot head that everyone seems to be afraid of doesn't have assault or domestic violence charges.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I haven't seen any. It appears anger doesn't equate to violence over his daughter missing. This is when I would expect to see violent episodes erupt from him after everything that has been thrown in his face and the way he has been antagonized. He has maintained and controlled himself better than I could in light of the circumstances. (I probably would have slapped Geraldo when he got into my "space" like he did Ronald's.)

 

[Emeralgem]

I haven't seen any. It appears anger doesn't equate to violence over his daughter missing. This is when I would expect to see violent episodes erupt from him after everything that has been thrown in his face and the way he has been antagonized. He has maintained and controlled himself better than I could in light of the circumstances. (I probably would have slapped Geraldo when he got into my "space" like he did Ronald's.)

IMHO ...Ron C may be attempting to fool the public into thinking he is not a violent person but he has failed miserably...And I'm thinking the reason he was so flusterd in that interview and didn't slap Geraldo in the face was due to the fact he knew that what Geraldo was saying was TRUE....

 

[SeriouslySearching]

IMHO ...Ron C may be attempting to fool the public into thinking he is not a violent person but he has failed miserably...And I'm thinking the reason he was so flusterd in that interview and didn't slap Geraldo in the face was due to the fact he knew that what Geraldo was saying was TRUE....

I would have to disagree. Please show me where Ronald has been proven to be a violent person and we will have something to discuss about his temper and lack of control.

I don't believe what Geraldo was saying to him was true as the accusations were coming from Crystal and her family. I also believe what Ronald did say was taken out of context concerning the drugs. He was speaking in the present tense. The rest of the ambush is also questionable as to Ronald's responses, imo.

 

[Donjeta]

Has any one found any domestic violence or assault charges on Ron?
I have a hard time believing a 25 yo hot head that everyone seems to be afraid of doesn't have assault or domestic violence charges.

I'm not saying that he's violent but these things aren't always reported. Domestic violence goes frequently unreported and uncharged, and so do minor assaults, especially if everybody is afraid. So, the absence of a record doesn't tell us definitely that a person couldn't be violent on occasion.

 

[CHICANA]

" I phoned a friend".. and he told me a reason to declare yourself indigent is for free legal representation? I that what RC did it for?

According to court docs, yes.

 

[Law_girl41]

IMHO ...Ron C may be attempting to fool the public into thinking he is not a violent person but he has failed miserably...And I'm thinking the reason he was so flusterd in that interview and didn't slap Geraldo in the face was due to the fact he knew that what Geraldo was saying was TRUE....

I could see it in his eyes. I heard it in his voice on the 911 tape, when he was confronted by HR, etc....denied "ever" hitting the children(denying truth & denying responsibility for his part in anything that was wrong- "I was at work" responses)
Besides abuse doesnt always mean physical violence...I wish sometimes people would educate themselves a bit more...especially on the violence wheel.......Patty posted it on YouTube.....{Thank you miss Patty, very informative info on the comments section}
Make sure you click on read all comments- it explains what the wheel means......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnUDPF5eJFQ&feature=channel

 

[CHICANA]

Has any one found any domestic violence or assault charges on Ron?
I have a hard time believing a 25 yo hot head that everyone seems to be afraid of doesn't have assault or domestic violence charges.

He had an assault charge in 2001 per putnam county records.
As I said previously, my ex abused me numerous times and he has one domestic assault charge.
My understanding is that domestic violence victims rarely file charges.
They either think they're in love or they're too afraid.
When they do file charges, they usually change their mind and don't testify.
I'll take Crystal at her word, as I take yours. There's no reason to make up domestic abuse. I'm sure not proud that I let some jerk beat me up off & on for 10 years.

 

[Emeralgem]

I would have to disagree. Please show me where Ronald has been proven to be a violent person and we will have something to discuss about his temper and lack of control.

I don't believe what Geraldo was saying to him was true as the accusations were coming from Crystal and her family. I also believe what Ronald did say was taken out of context concerning the drugs. He was speaking in the present tense. The rest of the ambush is also questionable as to Ronald's responses, imo.

So you don't believe when someone states they will go home and put a gun in another person's mouth or they'll take out the trash when the time is right is a violent person?
BTW have you ever looked at Ron C's eyes when he is talking?
Looks like we will just have to agree to disagree..

 

[kiki the parrot]

Has any one found any domestic violence or assault charges on Ron?
I have a hard time believing a 25 yo hot head that everyone seems to be afraid of doesn't have assault or domestic violence charges.

He had an assault charge in 2001 per putnam county records.
As I said previously, my ex abused me numerous times and he has one domestic assault charge.
My understanding is that domestic violence victims rarely file charges.
They either think they're in love or they're too afraid.
When they do file charges, they usually change their mind and don't testify.
I'll take Crystal at her word, as I take yours. There's no reason to make up domestic abuse. I'm sure not proud that I let some jerk beat me up off & on for 10 years.

Well don't believe it txmommy because there was a dropped restraining order or DV related item in the civil docket but his violence related charges are more recent than just assault charges 2001 in Putnam County... In 2005 in Sarasota County he more recently violated an injunction PROTECTION DOMESTIC VIOLENCE eg which was discussed on JVM w Asst. State Atty Pam Bondi (also see link)

JVM: Pam, you`re the Florida state prosecutor. You`ve analyzed the Sarasota County arrest record. What can you tell me about the drug charges and also this violation of domestic injunction? What does that mean?

PAM BONDI HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROSECUTOR: Well, you know, Jane, and it`s interesting because, yes, I`ve been reviewing this. and we have a copy right here of the injunction.

He was pulled over on a routine traffic stop. And the police officer noticed some suspicion, brought in a drug dog, and he had all these drugs in his car, on his possession.

Now, also in the report it tells us -- we had known he had this violation -- an injunction. But now we know that he was not to possess firearms. He was not to come within 100 feet of Crystal, who was the petitioner at the time in the injunction.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So wait. In plain English, is that like a restraining order?

BONDI: Exactly. That`s exactly what it is. She had a restraining order

http://courtweb.co.sarasota.fl.us/crimapp/crimbrowse.asp?pg=1

Chicana, I am sorry you endured this for so long, sadly your experience is typical of many DV victims. Only about 50% of victims of domestic abuse ever report--and the statistics for following thru are even grimmer, due to a number of reasons. (It wouldn't be at all atypical for an unmarried dependent mother of younger children eg who lacked alternative support or resources to become intimidated or fear retaliation etc.) JMO

arrot:

 

[titanfan62702]

So you don't believe when someone states they will go home and put a gun in another person's mouth or they'll take out the trash when the time is right is a violent person?
BTW have you ever looked at Ron C's eyes when he is talking?
Looks like we will just have to agree to disagree..

In general, I agree with you. But I also know that some people that are all talk.

 

[Theonly1]

What are the laws concerning common law marriage in the state of FL? Would this somehow come into play with these two?

Common law marriage was abolished in Florida decades ago.

 

[texasmommy39]

Thank you for your post - I've been trying and trying to explain why what Ron did was kidnapping!!! I've gotten much grief over this fact. This is why I believe TN hired an attorney who advised Ron to take the kids out of state and out of the country for such a length of time then to take the kids to his home (to file in his jurisdiction) and not return them to CS. He had no legal right to take those kids and keep them from Crystal and I'm still SHOCKED he got custody instead of thrown in jail. Makes you go HMMMMM????

I agree Ron did kidnap the kids. This ongoing custody battle with no results for Crystal and the way Ron took the children from her would = motive in my book. Never said it was wrong to want your kids but your actions do have consequences.

 

[ValleySailor]

He had an assault charge in 2001 per putnam county records.
As I said previously, my ex abused me numerous times and he has one domestic assault charge.
My understanding is that domestic violence victims rarely file charges.
They either think they're in love or they're too afraid.
When they do file charges, they usually change their mind and don't testify.
I'll take Crystal at her word, as I take yours. There's no reason to make up domestic abuse. I'm sure not proud that I let some jerk beat me up off & on for 10 years.

Things must work a lot differently in FL. Here in SC, if a domestic violence call is made and the police answer it, SOMEone is going to jail. Sometimes both parties depending on the state of drunkeness, intoxication, argumentativeness, etc. The district attorney/attorney general/solicitor prosecute these cases now. The offended party does not have to sign a warrant anymore and the very reason is because so many times, the person (usually the female) is too afraid to press charges. The state now presses the charges in criminal domestic violence cases. It does not have to be a case of bloody noses, black eyes, or broken arms. If one or the other party is injured or bleeding at all, the other person WILL go to jail.

 

[texasmommy39]

Things must work a lot differently in FL. Here in SC, if a domestic violence call is made and the police answer it, SOMEone is going to jail. Sometimes both parties depending on the state of drunkeness, intoxication, argumentativeness, etc. The district attorney/attorney general/solicitor prosecute these cases now. The offended party does not have to sign a warrant anymore and the very reason is because so many times, the person (usually the female) is too afraid to press charges. The state now presses the charges in criminal domestic violence cases. It does not have to be a case of bloody noses, black eyes, or broken arms. If one or the other party is injured or bleeding at all, the other person WILL go to jail.

It is the same here in texas. Even a small scratch can land you in jail.

 

[Tichad3]

Things must work a lot differently in FL. Here in SC, if a domestic violence call is made and the police answer it, SOMEone is going to jail. Sometimes both parties depending on the state of drunkeness, intoxication, argumentativeness, etc. The district attorney/attorney general/solicitor prosecute these cases now. The offended party does not have to sign a warrant anymore and the very reason is because so many times, the person (usually the female) is too afraid to press charges. The state now presses the charges in criminal domestic violence cases. It does not have to be a case of bloody noses, black eyes, or broken arms. If one or the other party is injured or bleeding at all, the other person WILL go to jail.

That's how it is in NY also.

 

[kikid]

I agree Ron did kidnap the kids. This ongoing custody battle with no results for Crystal and the way Ron took the children from her would = motive in my book. Never said it was wrong to want your kids but your actions do have consequences.

thank you for conceding the kidnapping. I have wondered how much the custody battle was instigated by TN, I mean I wouldn't blame her really she'd probably practically raised the babies until Crystal left Ron and moved out with the kids. She must have been heartbroken to watch them go.

As far as the kidnapping leading to CS doing this in retaliation - I wouldn't rule ANYthing out at this point, but I believe it is way down on my list of theories.. right after the 'Misty was jealous of Haleigh and wanted her gone' theory.

I think the fact Ron had live in teenage girlfriends sleeping in the same bed as the kids might have been enough to take it back to court and try again to regain custody. jmoo

 

[texasmommy39]

thank you for conceding the kidnapping. I have wondered how much the custody battle was instigated by TN, I mean I wouldn't blame her really she'd probably practically raised the babies until Crystal left Ron and moved out with the kids. She must have been heartbroken to watch them go.

As far as the kidnapping leading to CS doing this in retaliation - I wouldn't rule ANYthing out at this point, but I believe it is way down on my list of theories.. right after the 'Misty was jealous of Haleigh and wanted her gone' theory.

I think the fact Ron had live in teenage girlfriends sleeping in the same bed as the kids might have been enough to take it back to court and try again to regain custody. jmoo

I agree and it could be a cotributing factor and the fact the kids called Misty mom that broke the camels back for Crystal.

 

[texasmommy39]

TN and Misty keep throwing 'Mommy" out there and they are not meanining Crystal. I have felt it was on ongoing jab. TN knows what she is saying and how it will effect Crystal.

 

[CHICANA]

Things must work a lot differently in FL. Here in SC, if a domestic violence call is made and the police answer it, SOMEone is going to jail. Sometimes both parties depending on the state of drunkeness, intoxication, argumentativeness, etc. The district attorney/attorney general/solicitor prosecute these cases now. The offended party does not have to sign a warrant anymore and the very reason is because so many times, the person (usually the female) is too afraid to press charges. The state now presses the charges in criminal domestic violence cases. It does not have to be a case of bloody noses, black eyes, or broken arms. If one or the other party is injured or bleeding at all, the other person WILL go to jail.

I divorced him 12 years ago when he went to prison for two years to avoid the repercussions. I was remarried when he was released. I'm sure things have changed but isn't it still hard to prosecute a case if the victim doesn't testify or show up in court ?