Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat 100km NW of Melbourne, 4 Feb 2024 #2

[mondayschild]

It has to be about missing money. A third party. Given the lack of warnings from LE re safety (which they might give if it was more 'random' or connected with a random element) - it is looking like something that involves the family finances.

MOO

 

[Kaykedi]

I think this was only reported in the daily mail which is not a reliable news outlet.

The lady camper was also in the first Facebook group (that was then shut down) and kept changing her story a few times.

The campers only said they saw her on Saturday morning though not Sunday, the day she went missing.

But would not take the campers’ story as a piece of evidence at all

Regarding you saying that the Daily Mail is not a reliable news outlet (I don't know how the tabloids work in Australia), BUT, in the UK (where I live), it is known that the most accurate information in the newspapers is released by The Sun and The Daily Mail. Love them or loathe them, they are both very powerful players in the industry

 

[Chestnutsunfish]

Agree. The search being called off, the lack of police warning women walking alone to be cautious.. to me this indicates that the potential of this being misadventure or a random attack /abduction is highly unlikely.

IMO that leaves us with only two options.

1) They know who is responsible for Sam’s disappearance and this person is not a risk to the greater community, indicating a potential relationship of some kind between Samantha and the person responsible for her disappearance.

Or

2) Samantha has left of her own accord.

 

[Kaykedi]

Regarding you saying that the Daily Mail is not a reliable news outlet (I don't know how the tabloids work in Australia), BUT, in the UK (where I live), it is known that the most accurate information in the newspapers is released by The Sun and The Daily Mail. Love them or loathe them, they are both very powerful players in the industry

What's with the face Tootsie?

 

[mondayschild]

Agree. The search being called off, the lack of police warning women walking alone to be cautious.. to me this indicates that the potential of this being misadventure or a random attack /abduction is highly unlikely.

IMO that leaves us with only two options.

1) They know who is responsible for Sam’s disappearance and this person is not a risk to the greater community, indicating a potential relationship of some kind between Samantha and the person responsible for her disappearance.

Or

2) Samantha has left of her own accord.

you said it more eloquently - i agree. If 2) - then husband likely part of the production.

 

[DK007]

If she actually went running,
I simply don't believe that NOBODY saw her.

Sure, it was Sunday and the time was early but
there must have been few runners taking advantage of cooler temperature?
No one?
And wouldn't she take her dog with her?

Sadly no one saw madeleine McCann when she was abducted

 

[Dotta]

Do you have a link for this information please???

AFAIK Police have not released the time of the ping. And I have never heard of a morning ping ????



Police confirmed her mobile phone did ping at a telecommunications tower 11km from her home.

Major update in search for missing jogger Samantha Murphy

The mother-of-three has not been seen for more than a week.

7news.com.au

It is understood a local mobile phone tower registered a ping from Ms Murphy's phone on Sunday, after she disappeared, but police refused to say more about the timing or location of the phone.

Survival expert slams cops over search for missing mum

Samantha Murphy, 51, left her home on Eureka Street in Ballarat, in country Victoria, to go jogging through Woowookarung Regional Park at about 7am on February 4.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The DM has also published this, but I would speculate it came from social media as no exact time was given ….

Her mobile phone later pinged a local cell phone tower around 5pm on Sunday - which can only locate her anywhere within 17km of nearby Buninyong.

This was ten hours after she left home, and is where the trail of clues runs cold.

The missing jogger mystery that has gripped Australia

Samantha Murphy, 51, vanished while out for a 7.30am jog in the Woowookarung Regional Park beauty spot near Ballarat, in Australia's Victoria state, last Sunday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

IMO

A map
with phone ping near Golf course

Samantha Murphy: Missing person’s squad take over investigation on day six of search for Ballarat mum

amp-theage-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[DK007]

Twice.
- golf course in the morning
- 5 p.m. far from the park

JMO

Thanks for confirming, I never knew there were two pings, I thought only one in the park

 

[Dotta]

You need water to survive more than three days and in the case of Julie Schutt, homeowners noticed that it seemed someone was using their garden tap.

If she is alive she would now need to be where she has access to water.

I think you could probably do without water if you had access to some kinds of fruits that were juicy, like an orchard, or fruit trees in someones backyard. I just think the spring fruiting season is finished now.
I might be wrong. I just know our bats have moved on

I do notice this time there is no request from the police for people to look in their sheds etc for her as they do in some
missing person cases,

True.

3x3
One only survives with:

3 minutes without breathing
3 days without water
3 weeks without food

I was told this during my Scouting days when I was a girl

JMO

 

[Dotta]

Thanks for confirming, I never knew there were two pings, I thought only one in the park

Now I'm not so sure

 

[SLouTh]

Twice.
- golf course in the morning
- 5 p.m. far from the park

A map
with phone ping near Golf course

Thanks for the map …

It doesn’t say the time of the ping however, and nor does it confirm a ping from the park ???

IMO

 

[Dotta]

Thanks for the map …

It doesn’t say the time of the ping however, and nor does it confirm a ping from the park ???

IMO

I could have sworn I read about morning ping (in early days)
But
now I'm not sure
Aaargh!!!!!

 

[DK007]

Just read this article :

Detectives from Victoria Police's Missing Persons Unit attended the Murphy property on Wednesday morning.

The detectives spent more than an hour inside before leaving.

The family property is at the centre of the investigation. It is the place where Ms Murphy was last seen on February 4, as she embarked on her morning jog.

Ms Murphy's husband, Mick, continues to be supported by family members and is understood to be cooperating with the specialised unit, which is attached to Victoria Police's Homicide Squad.

Haunting twist in Samantha Murphy's disappearance

A haunting twist emerges in Samantha Murphy's disappearance as police acknowledge 'suspicious circumstances'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[BreakingNews]

It has to be about missing money. A third party. Given the lack of warnings from LE re safety (which they might give if it was more 'random' or connected with a random element) - it is looking like something that involves the family finances.

MOO

What makes you think of that?

 

[mondayschild]

What makes you think of that?

I'm not entirely sure - speculation. I wonder if someone had been trying to extort money from their company.

 

[BreakingNews]

You ask
and here you are...

Fresh tragedy hits Samantha Murphy's family

The family of missing mum Samantha Murphy have been dealt yet another cruel blow with the death of her beloved dog Ruby.Â

www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

Samantha Murphy: Fresh Tragedy Strikes Missing Ballarat Mum's Family

The family of missing mother Samantha Murphy has been dealt another blow with the death of his beloved dog Ruby.

whatsnew2day-com.cdn.ampproject.org

But
is it true?

A lot of DM news seems to come from FB. No other media reported about Ruby. Never mind. It doesn't seem related to SM disappearance. Might have been if the dog was murdered.

 

[Dotta]

I'm not entirely sure - speculation. I wonder if someone had been trying to extort money from their company.

Do you mean ransom?

 

[Zanzibar]

Take a look at the body language of the cop in this clip.

I’m glad you raised this. I was very interested in the body language and interactions between the police officer, husband and daughter during the interview, some bits really stood out to me although in the absence of knowing them or seeing what is normal for them it’s hard to really know if it’s unusual.

I am no body language or crime analyst and will not speculate on here specifically as it’s an horrific situation for the family and community and I’m sure there are much better trained eyes on this.

 

[Kaykedi]

I’m glad you raised this. I was very interested in the body language and interactions between the police officer, husband and daughter during the interview, some bits really stood out to me although in the absence of knowing them or seeing what is normal for them it’s hard to really know if it’s unusual.

I am no body language or crime analyst and will not speculate on here specifically as it’s an horrific situation for the family and community and I’m sure there are much better trained eyes on this.

Which bits stood out to you Zanzibar?

 

[mondayschild]

Do you mean ransom?

prior to her disappearance. A thought.