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Do we know if searches are still being done?
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It couldn’t have been destroyed if it pinged at 5pm, so was it off during the day or was it perhaps pinging the whole time?
Do we know if searches are still being done?
I thought it looked like she may have had her phone in her Lt hand side pocket of her leggins she was wearing?Well, they do call it the last ping. I wonder if it was laying out there somewhere quietly pinging every once in a while.
It could be that he didn't initially realise that Sam had her phone on her - someone has suggested this before. Where did Sam stash her phone when she was running? It is not really evident in the last photo of Sam, as far as I can see.
Or it could be that Sam lost her phone during a physical attack, maybe he couldn't quickly find it. And he had to go back and find it and get rid of it. So it moved around later in the day (police haven't confirmed a time for the last ping).
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I thought it looked like she may have had her phone in her Lt hand side pocket of her leggins she was wearing?
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A CCTV snap, a morning run, then nothing. The search for Samantha Murphy
Her husband Mick said no one vanishes into thin air, but after six days of searching, there’s been no sign of the 51-year-old after she went for a run.www.theage.com.au
TrueYes, but premeditated can mean seconds before something happens, ie you could have made a different decision, but didn’t.
RSBMSure makes it sound like police are alleging this was premeditated. I may need to change my mind on that front.
Hi drsleuth, That photograph of SM: this is I believe the only released media photograph (taken from CCTV footage) of SM at her home on the morning 4 February 2024. *This isn't the last image of SM from her home before she went on her run on that day. Those earplugs are listed on the noticeboard for the search: as one of the items SM had on her. Those earplugs would have been listed by MM and/or the children as seeing SM had with her when she left home that morning. Those earplugs (termed as headphones by the LE) have been omitted from the missing items as stated by SComm. Shane Patton in his dialogue: implying that those earplugs have been found/located.thought it looked like she may have had her phone in her Lt hand side pocket of her leggins she was wearing
Yep well aware it's from CCTV that morningHi drsleuth, That photograph of SM: this is I believe the only released media photograph (taken from CCTV footage) of SM at her home on the morning 4 February 2024. *This isn't the last image of SM from her home before she went on her run on that day. Those earplugs are listed on the noticeboard for the search: as one of the items SM had on her. Those earplugs would have been listed by MM and/or the children as seeing SM had with her when she left home that morning. Those earplugs (termed as headphones by the LE) have been omitted from the missing items as stated by SComm. Shane Patton in his dialogue. Regards.
and, basically, no matter what faffing his defence puts up to the court, that really is what it boils down to. Because he could and because he wanted to. It takes effort to beat someone to death, even 51 yr old women put up a fight, she would not have gone down easily, so there was , I believe, an element of perseverance, commitment, determination to extinguish her life. Because he could.
I wouldn't waste a million dollars on a one dollar killer. He was only doing what a lot of blokes do. Nothing special about Mr S.
Well SM I suspect is holding a doggy poo bag (correct me if I am wrong) so at the very least SM washed her hands and then likely geared up at some stage and then headed off.How do you know it's not the last image?
However you unpack this, PS has done a great job covering his tracks to make sure Sam has not been found yet.
There must have been millions of $ spent trying to find Sam over 7+ weeks and yet, still nothing.
This suggests to me that it was not a "spur of the moment attack committed after a bender".
To me, PS was very likely wasted but had also run this scenario through his mind beforehand and had a fair degree of planning. He acted on a "fantasy" that he had thought about previously and had the guts to carry through with his plan when he was "numb" that morning.
Not sure if Sam had been the object of his deranged fantasy beforehand and was always going to be "the target" or, if she was "in the wrong place at the wrong time".
I hope they find Sam soon.
Also feeling so much grief for Mick and their children, we could not possibly imagine the nightmare the Murphy fam have been living through without Mum.
Hi Nifty, I have gone back over the interview given by Police Commissioner Shane Patton to confirm what I have noted:
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time 9:49
A woman reporter: 'Was a car allegedly involved at all?'
PC Shane Patton: 'I am not going to go into any further detail other than to say this was a we are alleging a deliberate attack which has caused the death of Samantha'
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Authors: a woman reporter, Police Commissioner Shane Patton. Victoria Police
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How is SM’s phone still functioning at 5pm?Pinging the whole time and we've been told about the last ping. That's my conclusion. You cannot stop and start a device like this unless you completely destroy it.
Patton specifically answered this in the press conference. He was asked by a reporter “will the police be alleging this is a hit & run” . Patton’s response “no”. Go to the 9:25 mark in the press conferenceThis is important. I always thought police specifically said it wasn't a hit and run, but after reading this, they only alleged it was a deliberate attack.
They did not confirm or deny that a car was involved.
The words "not a hit and run" have popped up in numerous articles, but the words are always from the reporter, not the police. Has anyone seen an article quoting the police using those words?
If a vehicle was actually used, then possibly the accused deliberately hit Samantha and recorded it on dash cam. He may have sent the footage to someone. Has anyone seen evidence of a dash cam on the vehicle?
Google:How is SM’s phone still functioning at 5pm?
Why wasn’t it smashed?
Did he only bury or hide the body later in the day when the searchers had gone and it was cooler?
If the phone actually was active all day, the police would have her roughly tracked and could’ve been watching him fir a fortnight to see if he could lead them to the body. If so, she might’ve been parked at the Scotsburn home in the back of his car during the day until it was quieter. PS may have spent the day watching the searchers.