Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat, 4 Feb 2024 *Arrest* #11

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But I have been wondering what the tool is in the male police officer's hand. I wish I knew what equipment they use in forensic investigations.

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How cops closed in on missing mum's alleged killer two weeks ago

No trace of the mother-of-three has been found and a 22-year-old man from the nearby suburb of Scotsburn was on Thursday charged with her alleged murder.
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SouthAussie said:
<modsnip - quoted post was removed> But I have been wondering what the tool is in the male police officer's hand. I wish I knew what equipment they use in forensic investigations.

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www.dailymail.co.uk

How cops closed in on missing mum's alleged killer two weeks ago

No trace of the mother-of-three has been found and a 22-year-old man from the nearby suburb of Scotsburn was on Thursday charged with her alleged murder.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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High definition mini camera?
 
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Dotta said:
High definition mini camera?
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SouthAussie said:
<modsnip - quoted post was removed> But I have been wondering what the tool is in the male police officer's hand. I wish I knew what equipment they use in forensic investigations.

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www.dailymail.co.uk

How cops closed in on missing mum's alleged killer two weeks ago

No trace of the mother-of-three has been found and a 22-year-old man from the nearby suburb of Scotsburn was on Thursday charged with her alleged murder.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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Looks to be a head torch to me, you can see the straps against the person’s leg.
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SouthAussie said:
<modsnip - quoted post was removed> But I have been wondering what the tool is in the male police officer's hand. I wish I knew what equipment they use in forensic investigations.

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www.dailymail.co.uk

How cops closed in on missing mum's alleged killer two weeks ago

No trace of the mother-of-three has been found and a 22-year-old man from the nearby suburb of Scotsburn was on Thursday charged with her alleged murder.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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Something which can detect human blood, or fingerprints?
 
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MaisieBella said:
I dont post often, but I read all of your comments, and I am wondering if it possible that his fingerprints are still detectable on her phone case. Any thoughts?
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Hey Maisie, I saw this article which briefly mentioned DNA on the phone, so I’d say it’s not impossible.

“Given the phone’s submersion in water, any DNA would likely be degraded, though forensic specialists would still attempt to recover any possible evidence urgently, with results expected within days.”

 
JLZ said:
  1. Is it possible to have 'parental controls' on a phone? Like, the kid doesn't know it, but the parent can see the URL of every site accessed.
  2. I think the trouble is also that a lot of parents don't bother. Just as when TV was the babysitter.
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Hi @JLZ,
  1. Yes, monitoring / reporting websites a child / children have visited is a common feature in most child safety software.
  2. Sadly, this is one of the downsides & it's true (ioe).
  3. Regarding "the kid doesn't know it", the majority of people we've discussed this issue with recommend discussing with child/children, it's respectful but still positions 'parental-responsibility-authority' & the nature of the software means the kid can't remove it, so, if they want to surf, they play by the parent's rules.
Moo.
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Rocket333 said:
Hey Maisie, I saw this article which briefly mentioned DNA on the phone, so I’d say it’s not impossible.

“Given the phone’s submersion in water, any DNA would likely be degraded, though forensic specialists would still attempt to recover any possible evidence urgently, with results expected within days.”

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Rocket333 said:
Hey Maisie, I saw this article which briefly mentioned DNA on the phone, so I’d say it’s not impossible.

“Given the phone’s submersion in water, any DNA would likely be degraded, though forensic specialists would still attempt to recover any possible evidence urgently, with results expected within days.”

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Thank you! I had somehow missed this article.
 
Rumination1 said:
MOO
Are we sure the parents of PS and Sam and Mick Murphy have never crossed paths ?
I can’t believe in a small community , similar schools they never have
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We aren't sure but I'm sure LE would have a fair idea by now. Ballarat (population approx 118,000) is a major regional city , I've lived in smaller regional cities (population 30,000) and known people that have lived there their whole life (a 50+yr old) and are very immersed in the community and they still meet new people that have lived in the same town all their life too but their paths had never crossed, so it's not too far fetched that they never directly crossed path, doesn't mean if PS was in the local newspaper regarding footy that SM or MM didn't read the article for example, doesn't mean they knew or know him or his family directly.
 
solari said:
We aren't sure but I'm sure LE would have a fair idea by now. Ballarat (population approx 118,000) is a major regional city , I've lived in smaller regional cities (population 30,000) and known people that have lived there their whole life (a 50+yr old) and are very immersed in the community and they still meet new people that have lived in the same town all their life too but their paths had never crossed, so it's not too far fetched that they never directly crossed path, doesn't mean if PS was in the local newspaper regarding footy that SM or MM didn't read the article for example, doesn't mean they knew or know him or his family directly.
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Police said there was no link between the victim/her family
and the alleged perp.

"Detectives from the missing persons squad arrested Stephenson,
who they said

was not linked to the Murphy family,

at about 6 am on Wednesday."

Samantha Murphy: Patrick Stephenson identified as alleged killer of Ballarat woman | Australia news | The Guardian

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Dotta said:
I couldn't agree more!
7 km in 60/50 mins is SLOW run.

JMO
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pavlovsdaughter said:
It’s really not, when adjusted for age and gender, and the fact that we don’t know if or how often she walked. Did she start sprinting right out of her driveway? Or did she walk for a bit to warm up as many runners do?

runninglevel.com

4 Mile Run Times By Age And Ability - Running Level

4 mile running finish times by age for both men and women (good and average)
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Remember though she was training for a marathon, so she wouldn't be wanting to walk too much into her run, she was an experienced runner, a very slow runner can do that in 46 min, so Sam being a regular runner should have done it around the 20 m mark, even 27 mark. One hour is slow for that run, and not really what Sam had set out to achieve that morning. Unless, as I previously said, It was a set-up by someone else to make out Sam had done that run and that she was not murdered elsewhere, to keep police searching the bush.
 
Scooby-Doo said:
Remember though she was training for a marathon, so she wouldn't be wanting to walk too much into her run, she was an experienced runner, a very slow runner can do that in 46 min, so Sam being a regular runner should have done it around the 20 m mark, even 27 mark. One hour is slow for that run, and not really what Sam had set out to achieve that morning. Unless, as I previously said, It was a set-up by someone else to make out Sam had done that run and that she was not murdered elsewhere, to keep police searching the bush.
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Sounds complicated and risky. Some data retrieved, phone/biometric, indicated a significant change in Sam’s status quo at Mt Clear and the police say the incident happened at Mt Clear. The phone wasn’t destroyed at Mt Clear as it’s been found in tact. So the likelihood is that she made it to a turn around point at Mt Clear but no further and the data reflects that.
The length of her journey or mode from home to Mt Clear could be inconsequential.
The phone in the dam is possibly opportunistic, careless or a red herring.
 
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Rumination1 said:
MOO
Are we sure the parents of PS and Sam and Mick Murphy have never crossed paths ?
I can’t believe in a small community , similar schools they never have
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Police say they aren’t connected and that’d be true, even superficially (ie as far as anyone apart from PS and SM know). When people know each other the relationship helps explain the motive a little better. I’ve wondered if they did know each other somehow and no-one else was aware. Why would he allegedly attack her, given the age difference, the time of day and season (higher risk of witnesses in the morning in Summer), her physique (she wouldn't have been completely defenceless) and the likelihood that she would be missed very soon. Maybe it was opportunistic or spontaneous. Maybe they argued or she caught him doing something weird.
JMO
 
Rocket333 said:
Sounds complicated and risky. Some data retrieved, phone/biometric, indicated a significant change in Sam’s status quo at Mt Clear and the police say the incident happened at Mt Clear. The phone wasn’t destroyed at Mt Clear as it’s been found in tact. So the likelihood is that she made it to a turn around point at Mt Clear but no further and the data reflects that.
The length of her journey or mode from home to Mt Clear could be inconsequential.
The phone in the dam is possibly opportunistic, careless or a red herring.
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Someone else could have walked to Mount Clear, that's why it has taken them one hour to get there, wearing Sam's watch to throw off the investigation, then they have got into a vehicle and driven off at Mount Clear. She could have easily been murdered prior. There is no CCTV footage given to the media of her actually running past anywhere going into the bush, and that still photo looks like she is walking up the driveway and not going out, and they still can't find her body in the bush
 
Scooby-Doo said:
Someone else could have walked to Mount Clear, that's why it has taken them one hour to get there, wearing Sam's watch to throw off the investigation, then they have got into a vehicle and driven off at Mount Clear. She could have easily been murdered prior. There is no CCTV footage given to the media of her actually running past anywhere going into the bush, and that still photo looks like she is walking up the driveway and not going out, and they still can't find her body in the bush
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I’m getting your valid point that there’s (as far as we know and we don’t know much) no images or evidence of her leaving her driveway, or even being at Mt Clear that morning.
The police know where Sam went and it makes no sense for them to withhold info about her known whereabouts especially when they are relying on public help including a lot of cctv footage.
MOO
 
SouthAussie said:
<modsnip - quoted post was snipped> But I have been wondering what the tool is in the male police officer's hand. I wish I knew what equipment they use in forensic investigations.

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www.dailymail.co.uk

How cops closed in on missing mum's alleged killer two weeks ago

No trace of the mother-of-three has been found and a 22-year-old man from the nearby suburb of Scotsburn was on Thursday charged with her alleged murder.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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A go-pro type camera on a head band?
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Rocket333 said:
Police say they aren’t connected and that’d be true, even superficially (ie as far as anyone apart from PS and SM know). When people know each other the relationship helps explain the motive a little better. I’ve wondered if they did know each other somehow and no-one else was aware. Why would he allegedly attack her, given the age difference, the time of day and season (higher risk of witnesses in the morning in Summer), her physique (she wouldn't have been completely defenceless) and the likelihood that she would be missed very soon. Maybe it was opportunistic or spontaneous. Maybe they argued or she caught him doing something weird.
JMO
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IMO jealousy (possibly jealous of one of his associates having a friendship with/liking Samantha.)
 
Rocket333 said:
Why would he allegedly attack her, given the age difference, the time of day and season (higher risk of witnesses in the morning in Summer), her physique (she wouldn't have been completely defenceless) and the likelihood that she would be missed very soon. Maybe it was opportunistic or spontaneous. Maybe they argued or she caught him doing something weird.
JMO
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I don't think the age difference matters one little bit. Plenty of younger guys have attacked older women.
Even a 10 year old boy has been charged with sexual assault, common assault, and assault occasioning bodily harm whilst in company, against a 24 year old woman just a month ago, in broad daylight, at 10am. Link

And Sam's fitness level certainly did not help her to be alive today.

imo
 
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