SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #11

[sar2them1984]

Re: Heather being left handed based on how she wears a watch and carries her purse.
I am right handed, wear a watch everyday on my right wrist (I know this is not common-who made the watch rule anyway that it's supposed to be worn on your left wrist?), and I carry my purse on my right shoulder. So I don't think we can glean anything from this information.

Im left handed, wear my watch and bag on my left side. However I eat and play sport right handed. I don't think its indicative of whether she was right/left handed

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[rizzo0904]

Did trackergd ever come back and share his thoughts? I havent been able to keep up the past few days.

 

[JnRyan]

I lay in bed last night going over it again and again what happened between 2am and 6am.

I'm pretty convinced OM initiated the calls to Heather that night/morning.

That call from OM came after she was dropped off at her condo and before Heather made the call to her roomie in Florida. (A small window)
Also, that call had to have been very soon after she was dropped off, which makes me think OM had visuals on Heathers condo at the time.

The calls 'back and forth' as reported by MSM via police report/TE between 3.41 and 6am could have been made from anywhere.
The 'pings' from both phones are crucial to the initial stages of the investigation.

Hypothesis
1 - Heather spoke 'back and forth' with OM in that period and both were never in immediate contact.
I doubt that as I believe OM was in the vicinity of Heather's condo.

2 - OM and Heather made physical contact before or around 4am in or around her condo.
They both travelled in Heathers car somewhere (PTL?), followed by OMW.
OM subdued Heather at the destination, but not violently (chloroform?).
OM transfers Heather into OMW car, by carrying her (dogs dont pick up Heathers scent outside the car at PTL).
OM drops off OMW at their house and OM drives vehicle and dumps her. He has Heather's phone.
He calls his own phone which OMW has from earlier and OMW goes to the point and picks him up and both return home.

Pings can demolish this hypothesis in an instant. I'm sure and hope LE are on it.

This or a variation of this I believe is very likely. In such a case, the last use at 6 AM would not be indicative of the time of the crime. Another red herring for LE.

 

[JnRyan]

Anyone else think maybe the car was parked so close to water that if someone in passenger side could step out into water & avoid detection?

Or as some of us thought earlier, the original intent may have been to roll the car off into the water. For some reason, once at PTL the person driving the car to the site changed their plan.

- By that time it may be close to the time that someone fishing that morning may be arriving soon and the driver felt they didn't have time,
- Panicked now that they were there and just wanted to leave the area and car as soon as possible,
- Tried to push or attempt to have it run down the ramp, but couldn't figure out how to do it successfully (it's not as easy as in the movies!),
- Driver is not a boater or fisherman and realizes once onsite that there is a possibility after seeing the ramp that even if the car goes under, a boat trailer can get caught on it and a discovery would be sooner than they planned.
- For whatever reason the original plan is scrapped, driver realizes the longer they are with the car the greater their chance of being seen with it. So rather than go to an alternate location with sunrise approaching they simply leave it there.

After leaving the car in that location, I really don't believe the driver thought they had bought themselves more than a few hours. That the car was not brought to the attention of LE until sometime late the next day is something worked in their favor.

 

[stillwatersc]

Or as some of us thought earlier, the original intent may have been to roll the car off into the water. For some reason, once at PTL the person driving the car to the site changed their plan.

- By that time it may be close to the time that someone fishing that morning may be arriving soon and the driver felt they didn't have time,
- Panicked now that they were there and just wanted to leave the area and car as soon as possible,
- Tried to push or attempt to have it run down the ramp, but couldn't figure out how to do it successfully (it's not as easy as in the movies!),
- Driver is not a boater or fisherman and realizes once onsite that there is a possibility after seeing the ramp that even if the car goes under, a boat trailer can get caught on it and a discovery would be sooner than they planned.
- For whatever reason the original plan is scrapped, driver realizes the longer they are with the car the greater their chance of being seen with it. So rather than go to an alternate location with sunrise approaching they simply leave it there.

After leaving the car in that location, I really don't believe the driver thought they had bought themselves more than a few hours. That the car was not brought to the attention of LE until sometime late the next day is something worked in their favor.

In the early morning quiet the sound of a boat motor can be heard for quite a distance. They may have heard or thought they heard a boat coming or someone cranked up a car for a early shift. Lots of shifts start at 7 AM or 6 AM. My neighbor regularly pulls out of his driveway around 5:30 AM. I also do not entertain the possibility of a boat being used - too loud and obvious.

 

[floridamomma]

I wonder if heather and date had a stalker that night...

le knows more than we do, is that enough for a warrant to at least see his pings?

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[CC880]

I wonder if heather and date had a stalker that night...

le knows more than we do, is that enough for a warrant to at least see his pings?

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Or was dad the only one that Heather sent pictures to that night of her date

 

[margarita25]

Vigil for Heather Elvis
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2014/01/23/3977753/vigil-for-heather-elvis.html

Heather Elvis’ family gather on a dock to light and release paper lanterns into the night during a prayer vigil at the Cypress Camping Resort in the Socastee community on Thursday, Jan. 23, 2014. Her mother Debbi (left) and father Terry (second from left) watch each lantern as it rises. Elvis has been missing since Dec. 17. Any one with information is asked to call 843-915-TIPS (8477). Photo by Janet Blackmon Morgan / jblackmon@thesunnews.com

 

[daphne2006]

I feel like LE is closer than it looks and that the one(s) responsible know it too. Praying something breaks for the family soon!

 

[NotSoGrumpy]

I have to agree with you. I think this is the reason for sharing so little publicly. They would be looking for public feedback if they needed more or had nothing to go on.

 

[stillwatersc]

Something else to chew on while it's quiet. Looks like Heather's apartments/condo had units available for daily/weekly rental. Lots of pictures in these links. Also traveler reviews.

http://www.riveroaksresortvacations.com/

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Re..._Golf_Villas-Myrtle_Beach_South_Carolina.html

 

[Eclipse33]

I lay in bed last night going over it again and again what happened between 2am and 6am.

I'm pretty convinced OM initiated the calls to Heather that night/morning.

That call from OM came after she was dropped off at her condo and before Heather made the call to her roomie in Florida. (A small window)
Also, that call had to have been very soon after she was dropped off, which makes me think OM had visuals on Heathers condo at the time.

The calls 'back and forth' as reported by MSM via police report/TE between 3.41 and 6am could have been made from anywhere.
The 'pings' from both phones are crucial to the initial stages of the investigation.

Hypothesis
1 - Heather spoke 'back and forth' with OM in that period and both were never in immediate contact.
I doubt that as I believe OM was in the vicinity of Heather's condo.

2 - OM and Heather made physical contact before or around 4am in or around her condo.
They both travelled in Heathers car somewhere (PTL?), followed by OMW.
OM subdued Heather at the destination, but not violently (chloroform?).
OM transfers Heather into OMW car, by carrying her (dogs dont pick up Heathers scent outside the car at PTL).
OM drops off OMW at their house and OM drives vehicle and dumps her. He has Heather's phone.
He calls his own phone which OMW has from earlier and OMW goes to the point and picks him up and both return home.

Pings can demolish this hypothesis in an instant. I'm sure and hope LE are on it.

I think this is very good hypothesis...but then where is Heather? If she was subdued but not violently...then she should have been able to return home by now or at least call someone for help. Did you leave part of your theory out?

 

[Hatfield]

JMO
I was thinking back to how when something happens to someone, the police usually first ask if the person had any known enemies. And began to think that someone could become an enemy in the blink of an eye. Like for example if a person got really upset with their own life turning out bad and they somehow blamed her for all their troubles all of sudden.

I guess the point is an enemy can develop rapidly.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I have to agree with you. I think this is the reason for sharing so little publicly. They would be looking for public feedback if they needed more or had nothing to go on.

But press conferences are not only held in order to get information from the public. Sometimes, they are held to simply inform the public:

Horry County will hold an interactive press conference for its new website re-design on Tuesday, August 27, at 9 a.m. at the Horry County Government & Justice Center, Room D, at 1301 Second Avenue in Conway.

The Horry County Board of Education held a joint news conference with the Horry County Police Department and the Solicitors office Friday.

Dr. Cindy Elsberry, Superintendent of Horry County Schools, Chief Saundra Rhodes, Interim Chief of the Horry County Police Department and Deputy Solicitor Jimmy Richardson of the 15th Judicial Circuit talked about the impact of the recent series of threats made to schools and the consequences of this criminal activity.

Rhodes, along with Myrtle Beach Police Chief Warren Gall, 15th Judicial Circuit Solicitor Jimmy Richardson and SLED representatives held a press conference Thursday representing a united front against the illegal gaming and sweepstakes in Horry County.

So the county has held PC's to talk about their new website, bomb threats against local schools, and gambling but not Heather. What's the difference?

 

[Eclipse33]

Or as some of us thought earlier, the original intent may have been to roll the car off into the water. For some reason, once at PTL the person driving the car to the site changed their plan.

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This is another good idea...I wonder if LE dusted her car inside and out for prints? Unless gloves were used, if you were trying to push it in the water, your prints should be all over that car. OR it would also be very telling if the car had been wiped down and LE couldn't even find a print of Heather's!

 

[EmmaRose]

This is a longshot, but, here goes.

Because a spouse may suspect infidelity, they may have purchased a GPS vehicle tracker to verify their suspicions as to a husband's whereabouts.

I would hope LE has researched this possibility because the device could hold a record of where spouse's car was on the night of Heather's disappearance.

 

[JaneyBGood]

If I was tied to this case in a questionable manner, I would not be able to look at those photos and not submit to a poly, answer any question asked of me and get my kids out of dodge until things settled down or there was closure.

I have lost a child under similar/different circumstances and anyone who taunts a family in the midst of that kind of pain is beyond cruel. MOO.

I totally agree! My deepest condolences for your loss, cJVW, I can't even fathom how awful and painful it must be at times..xo..

 

[cluciano63]

With missing people or murders, silence from LE can go either way, as far as whether they are close to an arrest or not. Again, with no actual crime scene, presumably, it will be much more difficult to charge someone. Simply being the last person to talk to her is a starting point, lying about it initially is worrisome, but LE needs to be able to place a POI with Heather, or at least place him someplace away from any alibi. If they can't, this could on for a very long time.

 

[floridamomma]

This is a longshot, but, here goes.

Because a spouse may suspect infidelity, they may have purchased a GPS vehicle tracker to verify their suspicions as to a husband's whereabouts.

I would hope LE has researched this possibility because the device could hold a record of where spouse's car was on the night of Heather's disappearance.

there are also plenty of ways to track a person using an app on a phone.

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[sar2them1984]

JMO before people jump on me - in this case (and others) it seems that information which could be helpful or pertinent in finding HE or at least come some way in explaining what has happened to her is being withheld by friends and/or family for fear of tarnishing her name.
The whole OM thing, for instance, only came to light because of other people

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