SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #14

[nosysw]

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_ada6ad1c-8f77-11e3-8ca7-001a4bcf6878.html

"Rhodes said about 15 search warrants have been issued since Elvis was reported missing. Through the warrants police have searched Elvis social media accounts, including private messages not previously reported. The contents of those messages have not been released."

We don't know when these PMs occurred.

So, the article I linked :floorlaugh: Thanks! I guess my ADHD took over and I skimmed,


So, we have telephone calls back and forth, "communications", and PM's. Sounds like a LOT was going on that night. The PM's don't have a time attached. The telephone calls/and or "communications with OM/SM went up to 6 am- and presumably started after 2:00 am(?).

 

[SharetheLight]

So, the article I linked :floorlaugh: Thanks! I guess my ADHD took over and I skimmed,





So, we have telephone calls back and forth, "communications", and PM's. Sounds like a LOT was going on that night. The PM's don't have a time attached, correct? But the telephone calls/and or "communications with OM/SM went up to 6 am.

Oops, lol, I don't even notice that it was the link you provided
Everything you just said is my understanding of it all.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

ex strikes me as troubling only cuz listed in PR and press story covering said he said something like "If u hide I will find you"Couple that with LE had an opportunity to exonerate & still did not choose to do so..
Think about it,ex stated as violent in PR (which hasn't been revised after all this time)
[modsnip]
[modsnip]
maybe Heather lived w/ex?
if Heather was feeling down after her date w/nobody to talk with maybe ex was there?
his statement about finding her scares me cuz I have a feeling after Heather moved he had no idea & was following her when she went to pick up her mail (since he'd know where they lived)
if he saw her Tue PM w/mail maybe followed to her place (since SS dropped her off there-altho no mention of WHERE he picked her up)
What do you think??

Yet we don't know any part of the story, the circumstances or even if the guy was in town when Heather disappeared. The PR states 'possibly' as to the guy's work location and 'possibly' violent.
How can we hypothesize with the weak hearsay evidence given?

MB is a small place and her family lives there, her work is there - where would she hide and why would she feel the need to hide? THE REASON WOULD BE KEY to understanding what may have been going on.
Without knowing the reason, our speculations are nothing but fiction.

Unless we uncover the nature of the alleged vendetta, there's no way to guess/suppose what may or may not have happened.

Was there a guy who was upset she broke up with him, a stalker type, if I can't have you no one will have you type, or did HE cross somebody having nothing to do with a romantic or sexual relationship?
We need more background information before the alleged comment (if you hide, I'll find you) has any merit.

HE was in transition. She had just moved into a condo where someone else had already been living.
Who did HE replace and/or why?
She was about to start a new job. Never did read if she had given notice at TK or if she intended to try to balance the hostess job with the new job in cosmetology.
The place has hours listed only until 5PM and 3PM on Saturday. The hours don't compute with me.
My guess is that HE was planning to work both jobs until she could work her way into earning more money in cosmetology.

 

[nosysw]

I kinda think the only way HE would leave of her own volition would be to go with someone (only someone I can think of is SM and he's still around- why would she be going on a new date if she were planning on going away with someone else?) or if she was running away from someone. There do seem to be some questionable characters around who she may have been scared of. Say, someone who had already threatened or even hurt her. Someone like that might seem to be capable of much worse than beating someone up. But, if this were the case, I don't think she would have disappeared completely. I think she would have just gotten far away from that person. And then continued with her connections via SM. And why bother signing up to take a new job? Nope. Nothing about the leaving on her own makes a lick of sense to me.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

O/T: GCSO: Body discovered in water near Goat Island in Georgetown

GEORGETOWN SC, (WMBF) - The body of a male was discovered in the water near Goat Island in downtown Georgetown around 1:30 p.m., according to a Georgetown County Sheriff's Office news release. The United States Coast Guard reports that it is a body of a white male.

 

[carbuff]

I think I misstated something earlier today. I said I didn't like where a certain train of thought was leading, and apparently it sounded like I meant to point a finger at someone. What I meant was that I didn't like the way we keep pointing fingers, meanwhile completely losing track of Heather.

I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.

 

[carbuff]

O/T: GCSO: Body discovered in water near Goat Island in Georgetown

GEORGETOWN SC, (WMBF) - The body of a male was discovered in the water near Goat Island in downtown Georgetown around 1:30 p.m., according to a Georgetown County Sheriff's Office news release. The United States Coast Guard reports that it is a body of a white male.

Sounds like they think it's a boater who went missing last month.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

HockeyMom:

I believe part of the answer lies in the post recently where TE is going to do an interview and states there's a lot of circumstantial evidence and it ALL leads to one direction (imply: person).

Hope that helps....

Is it believed LE shared the content of the PMs with TE?
It's possible LE hasn't revealed the content to anyone only that they exist.

 

[primitivefuture]

I don't think there was a concise description of where and how HE's car was parked at PTL..Is there a picture available? not that I know of ..just interpretations of TE's one sentence observation. The PR did not give an accurate description either.

Yeah. I think because there is hardly any concrete information, my mind harps on tiny snippets that are probably of little to no consequence.


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[hockeymom4]

He doesn't need police permission to talk to them -- unless there's a judicial gag order, they can't do more than ask. And it sounds to me like he has decided to go public with all of this stuff that they had asked him to keep quiet about, because he thinks he knows the answer.

Based on everything TE has said, I don't think, and I can be wrong, he would do this interview and release circumstantial evidence without discussing this with LE. If he has not, he would be foolish. During any investigation the words are spoken, it's an ongoing investigation, no comment. During this case, the Detective and TE have said that. I think many of us here have been a part of an ongoing investigation and know that it is not typical to release certain details during the investigation while it is ongoing, because it can jeopardize the case. So, again, IMO, I am willing to bet money that he spoke to LE about what he can and can't say during his interview because if he were to say too much, it could get him in trouble in jeopardize the case. This is standard in many cases. Again, as the previous statement was my opinion, this one is as well.

 

[CarolinaAsh]

K, got permission from Salem to bring this over here...

It was stated by TE on FB that the correct wording used by the man Tuesday is the quote used in this article:

http://www.carolinalive.com/news/story.aspx?id=1004566#.UvaaD_ldXG4

It is NOT the quote stated "We have Heather." Biggggg difference to me.

 

[Ghostwheel]

So, the article I linked :floorlaugh: Thanks! I guess my ADHD took over and I skimmed,


So, we have telephone calls back and forth, "communications", and PM's. Sounds like a LOT was going on that night. The PM's don't have a time attached. The telephone calls/and or "communications with OM/SM went up to 6 am (and presumably started after 2:00 am(?).

There are lots of possibles, here.
The PMs could be old, not current, but still shed some light on the situation.
The PMs could be recent.
TE may know what the PMs say or may not.
LE may be the only people who know what the PMs say.
Some of HE friends may know what the PMs say: If they are old and HE might have talked about them or forwarded them.
Any of HE's Family/friends might know what is in the PMs IF they had access to any of her accounts. (I'm probably in the minority, but I can access all of my family's accounts if needed. I don't, but can. Kind of like our house rule about not wanting to tell someone where you are going. If you don't want to tell or post it on the white board, leave a sealed envelope with the location on your bed. If you return, no problem. If you don't we at least know where to look.)

Man, I'd like some definitive actual evidence.

 

[hockeymom4]

Yet we don't know any part of the story, the circumstances or even if the guy was in town when Heather disappeared. The PR states 'possibly' as to the guy's work location and 'possibly' violent.
How can we hypothesize with the weak hearsay evidence given?

MB is a small place and her family lives there, her work is there - where would she hide and why would she feel the need to hide? THE REASON WOULD BE KEY to understanding what may have been going on.
Without knowing the reason, our speculations are nothing but fiction.

Unless we uncover the nature of the alleged vendetta, there's no way to guess/suppose what may or may not have happened.

Was there a guy who was upset she broke up with him, a stalker type, if I can't have you no one will have you type, or did HE cross somebody having nothing to do with a romantic or sexual relationship?
We need more background information before the alleged comment (if you hide, I'll find you) has any merit.

HE was in transition. She had just moved into a condo where someone else had already been living.
Who did HE replace and/or why?
She was about to start a new job. Never did read if she had given notice at TK or if she intended to try to balance the hostess job with the new job in cosmetology.
The place has hours listed only until 5PM and 3PM on Saturday. The hours don't compute with me.
My guess is that HE was planning to work both jobs until she could work her way into earning more money in cosmetology.

Very good points. If he was out of town, I think that would automatically clear him. Right...or no? I think the reason why I still think of him is those comments, even though there is no proof. I just don't want him off of my list, until he is cleared by LE.

 

[carbuff]

Based on everything TE has said, I don't think, and I can be wrong, he would do this interview and release circumstantial evidence without discussing this with LE. If he has not, he would be foolish. During any investigation the words are spoken, it's an ongoing investigation, no comment. During this case, the Detective and TE have said that. I think many of us here have been a part of an ongoing investigation and know that it is not typical to release certain details during the investigation while it is ongoing, because it can jeopardize the case. So, again, IMO, I am willing to bet money that he spoke to LE about what he can and can't say during his interview because if he were to say too much, it could get him in trouble in jeopardize the case. This is standard in many cases. Again, as the previous statement was my opinion, this one is as well.

This is certainly true of his behavior in the past. But on the other hand I get the feeling that he's really fed up and ready to take matters into his own hand. He may be trying to force LE's hand or something.

It's a really bad idea if that is what he's trying to do.

 

[cluciano63]

PM's could be private posts or messages on twitter too, I guess.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

If you have a link can you post it thanks? I haven't seen an article with him discussing this.

Here you go HockeyMom----Thanks for this cujenn81

But since when is a victim's father in charge of an investigation?
No disrespect intended but LE needs to provide the updates, not TE.
Please don't tell me my comment isn't victim friendly because it has nothing to do with that. It's the truth when it comes to the facts being uncovered within an investigation. This point has been expressed time and time again from the families of murder/missing victims - that they aren't given details of the investigation and how difficult it is to not know if anything significant has moved the case closer to finding the answers of what happened to their loved one.
I'm interested in what TE has to say, but we don't know if LE tells him everything or anything for that matter. After what his friend did, I bet they don't.

I've never witnessed this phenomenon before where people are looking outside of LE for the facts in a case. LE never considers the victim's family members as the leaders of a case. I've witnessed family members inserting themselves into a case before but not where posters are waiting for information that comes from them that will solve the case.
If TE has that information, LE won't like it if he takes it upon himself to spill whatever it is. The Tuesday interview thing makes no sense (because something has gone on too long - what does that mean anyway?).

 

[zelmajane]

Ok, question about TE's upcoming interview.

Let's say he has someone that he strongly suspects. If he mentions that person, is that slander? Or does one have to prove you didn't do something for it to be slander?

Are y'all following me? It was just a thought IMO.

 

[AddysMom7610]

This is certainly true of his behavior in the past. But on the other hand I get the feeling that he's really fed up and ready to take matters into his own hand. He may be trying to force LE's hand or something.



It's a really bad idea if that is what he's trying to do.

It may be a bad idea but dang! What gives? You just get so desperate and it starts being WAY more important to actually bring your child home than possibly prosecute someone on circumstantial evidence, ya know? It may be about never being able to forgive himself for not doing everything in his power (ie tell the public everything they know to scare certain people and/or bring in more leads) to bring her home.


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[cluciano63]

JMO TE was mistaken about the phone info he gave out on NG and also in saying the phone was "turned off" at that time. I am not convinced he is being given any specifics at all, via LE. I think he got hold of SM's name, maybe from BW or her co-workers and ran with it.

That doesn't mean he is wrong in his focus, but I am doubtful he has any privileged info. JMO

 

[cluciano63]

It may be a bad idea but dang! What gives? You just get so desperate and it starts being WAY more important to actually bring your child home than possibly prosecute someone on circumstantial evidence, ya know? It may be about never being able to forgive himself for not doing everything in his power (ie tell the public everything they know to scare certain people and/or bring in more leads) to bring her home.


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But how is what he is or might do going to help bring her home, is my question. I think any chances of SM, TM or anyone close to them (TE's focus apparently) talking or cooperating is gone, due in part to maybe his words or actions. JMO