SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #5

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Good job! Yep, No. 69975 good until August 2015. Her middle initial is "R" I noticed too.

So Heather obtained her Cosmo license just after she turned 18. I wonder why she wasn't working in that industry all along. If not enough money starting out in cosmetology, she could have hostessed on the side.

I noted one time she messaged that one of her friends was coming over so HE could do her hair. Does that mean she knows how to cut too? Or, maybe just blowout and style?

Yes, like me, Heather is a licensed Cosmetologist. She worked very hard (dual study) in high school & by the time she graduated she had completed the hours necessary to take her state board exam. In SC, Cosmetologists are trained in all aspects of hair styling (cut, color, perm, blowout, style, etc,) nail care (manicure/pedicure) and esthetics (facials, make-up). She wanted to go the make-up artist route & was about to start her dream job....then~vanished.
 
You know anytime a female goes missing I always wonder if pregnancy is possible? Pregnancy coukd be a reason to run away. Wanting to end a pregnancy or doing so can be motive for murder. Not wanting to be found out by a spouse that a mistress is pregnant also...

Especially with the upcoming job as previously mentioned....I'd rather her be scared of outcome than worse....
 
Ok, I'm a self confessed lurker in this case. Partly because I have nothing constructive to add. And partly because this case has freaked the be-jeezus outta me.

To LadyHawkke, to Terry and all of Heathers family. I dont know what to say other than I'm thinking of you all day in and day out, here in Australia. You've done everything right in terms of getting the word out there. If Heather is out there, I have no doubt she would be so proud of you all for your unwavering determination. I salute you all.

God bless.

ETA: I wish I could come over there and get my hands dirty. Something has really made me all teary about this case. I think its because Terry reminds me of my Dad (probably of most Dads) and its gut wrenching to see how fathers hurt when their daughters are in trouble.
 
Based the NG transcript I believe it is possible:

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She was not in her condo at 3:41 AM. (At a convenience store? Getting gas?)

She may have been walking or sitting in her car with the doors unlocked at 3:41 AM texting or talking on her phone and therefore unaware of the situation/area around her.

If the phone last pinged shortly after that last use, someone (singular or plural) may have taken advantage of her focusing on her phone and rushed her while she wasn't paying attention. Phone was turned off shortly after that.
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Still a lot of gaps. Where did the phone last ping? (LE has that and won't confirm it with parents.) We also don't know the details (where or when) on the video surveillance at a business with a 'drive thru' mentioned in the police report. When was HE's car parked at the landing? Not reported by LE to parents till the 19th.

I still don't believe Peach Tree Landing is anything but a place to stash the car. But that is just my gut feeling.


In reference to the 3:41AM timeframe of last cell phone contact:
"Perhaps" remember to take this into consideration....


.... I live in the "EASTERN TIME ZONE"...

Please note that when checking my very latest phone calls and texts ONLINE TONIGHT with my carrier via logging in to my online account, the EXACT TIME is shown CORRECT "IF" I am TALKING to my relative who lives in the "CENTRAL TIME ZONE" - HOWEVER, when looking at my records of our texting- the TIME IS "OFF" BY THREE HOURS. Example: We were texting each other back and forth from 8:30pm to 8:45pm - "BUT" ON MY PHONE RECORDS ONLINE IT SHOWS ALL OF OUR TEXTS TAKING PLACE FROM 5:30pm to 5:45pm. EVEN when my relative was in town over Christmas (i.e. Came from the central time zone and now staying in the Eastern time zone, I checked those records of texting as well, that we were sending each other and it "STILL" showed up as being 3 hours difference. "Uhmmmmmm..." Also, I have checked other records of timezones and it follows the same "rule of thumb" on my billing - Phone call times show CORRECT, however, the texting shows the exact time of the "other" timezone. VERY ODD how they do it. Check your own records online - try it out and see if your company handles it the same.

Since the authorities are not going to release whether or not the phone number was a "local" number (i.e. Eastern timezone) nor are they giving details as to whether that was a phone call or text message, it is difficult to be exact in the correct time unless we have all of the information. T.Elvis stated that he was able to look at his daughter's cell phone info because she is on his cell phone plan...(Which is one reason I still have all my children on my phone plan.)

Just a theory that "perhaps" the time was not exactly 3:41am if the other number was a different timezone which in fact is not "odd" for our area because we have plenty of people to move here and still use their cell phones with the same number from the state they originated their service in

This could be VERY IMPORTANT - because instead of being a 3:41am timeframe of last known cell phone usage (because we weren't told if that was a text or phone call) the last record "SHOWING" to HE's Dad on his online usage details from his cell phone carrier as 3:41am could INDEED have been 12:41am.

The last known time that is mentioned by LE and TE as 3:41am could indeed be 12:41am.
Remember, it was reported that she talked to her roommate upon arrival back to her apartment to tell her of the date... then H.E. was last known to be POSTING on one of her social media sites at 2:08am.

I mention this because of other cases that you all may continue to work on in the future where someone "quotes" a cell phone record. They need to be VERY familar with how the times of texting vs. calling takes place while referencing and taking in to consideration the difference time zones. Perhaps each carrier is different, but I do find it odd that a PHONE call gets documented CORRECTLY, while texting does not.
 

Lalique FRANCE
http://www.lalique.com/en_US/all-collections/perfumes/for-women-61/eau-de-parfum-124
All gorgeous!

Lailique GERMANY?
Don't know why I'm stuck on this point/topic but something is bugging me about this product and the salon too.

66 Days is made by Lailique, not Lalique. Lalique is crystal jewelry & other crystal art forms as well as perfume. Lailique makes beauty & skin care. Note the difference between the 2 names in how they're spelled. Lailique that makes 66 Days has an "i" before the 2nd "l".
 
Totally agree! Thought this from the very start of this!!!!


It makes me want to :sick:, just thinking he is free to even consider him being the perp in this and other cases. He should have never been allowed to be free again.
 
LocalHelp, I wasn't on last night & have no idea what your post is about, but I think you are way off base in your assumptions. Websleuths isn't run like some low life trash comment gossip sites are. There are rules and regulations here that have to be adhered to. Furthermore, Websleuths DOES allow for EDIT, but only for a period of time after the post. If a person feels their post needs to be edited after their edit option is off the table, all they'd have to do is click the little red outlined white triangle with the black "!" in it, which alerts the mods, then type in the allotted space what is needed to be edited and the mod will then do the editing for that person when they get time - as alerted posts sometimes take time to fix or delete bc there are several other posts from other threads in a queue so to speak. Lastly, a person CAN DELETE a post and that option is located within the EDIT tab. If you've passed your allotted time to edit/delete, then alert your post and make a note to the mod that you wish to delete your post.
 
In regard to a post a few pages back (sorry, no time to go back and quote) regarding a FB account that appears to have been set up just to follow HE and seemed kind of creepy. Def worth a follow up, however...I wanted to note, I deactivated my FB account 1 1/2 years ago, and just reactivated it to get to the FHEFB page and related links. I really didn't want to, and thought about something like setting up another account. As I feared, tons of friends were immediately posting, welcoming me back, etc, although I tried to put privacy settings to avoid some of this since I don't want to get sucked back in. So, it is possible someone (say like a WS member, lol) would set up an account just for this purpose, with no ill intent. IMO.
 
I'm not convinced the 66 days comment is connected to face cream - sounds good but it isn't a known product and makes no sense that peeps would understand what it signifies. Unlike "camel toe", lol!
I won't belabor this issue (oops, yes I will) but, if HE was selling the line or something it might make sense. From what I saw, she was more into announcing her emotional state and relationship struggles. It makes no sense to me that she'd be shouting out an obscure skin care line.
Something or someone she had stepped away from for 66 days makes more sense to me or something she was looking forward too - tomorrow.

I agree. It's what I might think but I'm not exactly sold on the idea either. One thing to note is that Lailique also makes dietary supplements, vitamins, etc. Maybe she became acquainted with the product line from that aspect? Also, somebody in the beauty business may have had the pleasure of trying the 66 Days line as a perk of their company sending trial size products to a place they may go to get their hair done or whatever. I can see this being sold in a high end spa, don't know if she was ever a patron of one, just brainstorming.
 
I am almost positive AB did not work at TK when she was murdered, so I guess she worked there prior? I am friends with a couple of her friends and I have been in the same places as her on several occasions. As far as I know, she worked at OT and also at GN, where she was headed the day she was murdered. (I know OT has been mentioned, I have not followed her thread closely so I am not sure if GN has been mentioned?)

Greg Norman's...pretty upscale place from what I've heard/seen...I don't know if this has been verified as a place of employment for AB, or not.
 
I would think that her date would have provided a description of what she was wearing when she was dropped off at her home.... since this is the last time she was "seen" I would think these details would be important, just incase she never had the opportunity to change clothes?

Maybe they haven't released what Heather was last seen in bc they found those items discarded in her apartment. Since nobody else was at home when she got back from her date, maybe nobody else knows what's she was wearing after she discarded her date clothes. Also, maybe the roommate was asked to go through some of Heather's clothes to attempt to figure out what she could have been wearing but it was an impossible feat since Heather had sooooo many clothes.
 
I don't know if this has been answered; I talked with my stylist today and she told me that while makeup artists are required to be licensed here, she didn't think that this particular salon had any qualms about hiring unlicensed workers. I'm not sure if anyone ever found any confirmation that Heather went to HGTC?

On her FB, she has Ashworth College listed as attending and HGTC as past attended.
 
In regard to a post a few pages back (sorry, no time to go back and quote) regarding a FB account that appears to have been set up just to follow HE and seemed kind of creepy. Def worth a follow up, however...I wanted to note, I deactivated my FB account 1 1/2 years ago, and just reactivated it to get to the FHEFB page and related links. I really didn't want to, and thought about something like setting up another account. As I feared, tons of friends were immediately posting, welcoming me back, etc, although I tried to put privacy settings to avoid some of this since I don't want to get sucked back in. So, it is possible someone (say like a WS member, lol) would set up an account just for this purpose, with no ill intent. IMO.

That would be understandable if the FB account wasn't created BEFORE she disappeared. But it was created on Dec. 15th, just a few days BEFORE she disappeared. So to me that would rule out creating a FB page just to follow the FHEFB page, unless they knew there would be a need for a FHEFB page.
 
Quoting myself because now I'm confused. Since she's 20 years old, IF this is her, that means that she received her cosmetology license while in high school. In my state you have to do a 14 months long program. Not sure about the requirements for licensure in SC.

Anyone know her middle initial?

Jenna

Food for thought... Found on HGTC site -

http://www.hgtc.edu/community/Cosmetology_services.html

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Hair, Massage, Nails, Esthetics

HGTC offers luxurious spa, nails, and cosmetology services at its two VIP Training Centers on the Conway and Grand Strand campuses.

These services are performed by students under the direct supervision of HGTC faculty, who not only teach but are also highly regarded practitioners of their professions. Our indulgent spa services are provided at an incredibly affordable price in a warm, relaxing atmosphere and our student cosmetologists and estheticians are eager to immerse you in your choice of health and beauty treatments.


Also, see this link:
http://www.hgtc.edu/documents/about/cosmetology/Spa_final.pdf
 
In reference to the 3:41AM timeframe of last cell phone contact:
"Perhaps" remember to take this into consideration....


.... I live in the "EASTERN TIME ZONE"...

Please note that when checking my very latest phone calls and texts ONLINE TONIGHT with my carrier via logging in to my online account, the EXACT TIME is shown CORRECT "IF" I am TALKING to my relative who lives in the "CENTRAL TIME ZONE" - HOWEVER, when looking at my records of our texting- the TIME IS "OFF" BY THREE HOURS. Example: We were texting each other back and forth from 8:30pm to 8:45pm - "BUT" ON MY PHONE RECORDS ONLINE IT SHOWS ALL OF OUR TEXTS TAKING PLACE FROM 5:30pm to 5:45pm. EVEN when my relative was in town over Christmas (i.e. Came from the central time zone and now staying in the Eastern time zone, I checked those records of texting as well, that we were sending each other and it "STILL" showed up as being 3 hours difference. "Uhmmmmmm..." Also, I have checked other records of timezones and it follows the same "rule of thumb" on my billing - Phone call times show CORRECT, however, the texting shows the exact time of the "other" timezone. VERY ODD how they do it. Check your own records online - try it out and see if your company handles it the same.

Since the authorities are not going to release whether or not the phone number was a "local" number (i.e. Eastern timezone) nor are they giving details as to whether that was a phone call or text message, it is difficult to be exact in the correct time unless we have all of the information. T.Elvis stated that he was able to look at his daughter's cell phone info because she is on his cell phone plan...(Which is one reason I still have all my children on my phone plan.)

Just a theory that "perhaps" the time was not exactly 3:41am if the other number was a different timezone which in fact is not "odd" for our area because we have plenty of people to move here and still use their cell phones with the same number from the state they originated their service in

This could be VERY IMPORTANT - because instead of being a 3:41am timeframe of last known cell phone usage (because we weren't told if that was a text or phone call) the last record "SHOWING" to HE's Dad on his online usage details from his cell phone carrier as 3:41am could INDEED have been 12:41am.

The last known time that is mentioned by LE and TE as 3:41am could indeed be 12:41am.
Remember, it was reported that she talked to her roommate upon arrival back to her apartment to tell her of the date... then H.E. was last known to be POSTING on one of her social media sites at 2:08am.

I mention this because of other cases that you all may continue to work on in the future where someone "quotes" a cell phone record. They need to be VERY familar with how the times of texting vs. calling takes place while referencing and taking in to consideration the difference time zones. Perhaps each carrier is different, but I do find it odd that a PHONE call gets documented CORRECTLY, while texting does not.

Excellent post, Thank-You, Local Help.
 
R. Also, from that same site, here's about the requirements:

Answer: SECTION 40-13-230. Qualifications for licensure; cosmetologist; esthetician; nail technician.

A license as a cosmetologist must be issued by the board to a person who:

(1) is at least sixteen years of age and possesses at least a tenth grade education or the equivalent as established by tests used in the public schools or tests approved by the board;

(2) has completed at least one thousand five hundred hours in classes in cosmetology in a reliable school approved by the board or is a registered master hair care specialist pursuant to Chapter 7 who has satisfied educational requirements established by the board in regulation; and

(3) has passed the examination prescribed by the board and pays the required fee.

Which means she'd have taken these classes in HS or started taking classes right away at HGTC after HS. I think? Ether way, she held a license so she'd have to have her hours in.
 
Some high schools allow you to go through technical programs as part of your HS degree. She probably did a dual study in HS.

Heather went to St James HS, which is a base school of Academy for Technology and Academics. ATA offers cosmetology classes. rather could have done 1/2 day at St James & the other 1/2 at ATA.

http://ata.horrycountyschools.net/p...plate/Shortcuts2928/High_School_Announcements

Snipped:
Base School Links
St James High
http://ata.horrycountyschools.net/pages/St__James_High_School

Academy for Technology and Academics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Snipped:
The Academy for Technology and Academics (formerly known as The Career Center) is a branch school of the Horry County Schools in Horry County, South Carolina, USA. The school's curriculum includes automotive technology, building construction, business management and administration, computer science, cosmetology, culinary arts, education, and health science technology
 
Jenna, great find. The local high school calls it "running start". You can attend college while still in HS. Great program.

If HE earned her license and it was valid till 2015, that's just another reason I don't think she left voluntarily. Earning a certificate/license/degree is a giant accomplishment and most people want to enjoy the success. All moo.

It threw me off because she's 20, and in my world people who graduated in 2011 have turned 21, but she has a late summer birthday. Bad math on my part, so it completely makes sense that she did the cosmetology program while in HS, earned her license in July of 2011 after passing the state exam. Don't know why that bothered me so much!

Jenna

Exactly Passin' Me By. :)

Jenna, my son goes to a VoTech in which a biomed academy is offered. He started dual HS/College classes in 9th grade. He graduates this year, at 17 years of age, with his Associates Degree. His birthday is late September, so he started school at 4 bc he made the Oct 1st cutoff here. My son took a few extra classes to achieve his goal bc he knew he was looking at alot of years at university, so thought he'd get this part out of the way. Maybe Heather did the same thing...only difference is my son went premed and Heather went toward cosmetology. Make sense?
 
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