SC - KB, 30, (alive) & Charlie Carver, 32, (dec'd) Anderson, 31 Aug 2016 *Arrest* #1

[Lauranyc83]

Checked again, supposedly an LSU decal on the rear window, an LSU vanity plate (which could be easily removed) and damage to the passenger side mirror

I know they can be changed but the wheels are different between CDs car and the Craiglist car and no damage to the passenger side mirror either. No shot of the rear window though. I'd be leaning towards it not being the car

Supposedly the image circulating of his car in the missing photos is actually not his car. The family did not have a photo of his actual car. So the wheels on the missing photo would not mean much.

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[FaviousM]

Me too. However they may have changed those things for a reason.

I think the time is really tight for it to happy though, if we go with what carrottop31 theorized about the timeline (Sale of the car to the Craigslist seller around 9th of Sept) it would give the person who sold the car to the Craigslist seller only a few days to do a couple of things. 1) Have the damage to the passenger side mirror fixed and 2) Have the wheels changed. And this is the biggest point for me is that the wheels on the car being sold on Craigslist look like the original factory wheels that come on a Grand Prix where as CDs car had different wheels. I can totally buy that the wheels could have been changed within those few days (Between disappearance and sale to Craigslist seller) but for them to be replaced with the original factory style wheels just seems a step too far both time wise and in attention to detail by someone who would have just disappeared two people...

Supposedly the image circulating of his car in the missing photos is actually not his car. The family did not have a photo of his actual car. So the wheels on the missing photo would not mean much.

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Just saw this as I posted the above, if that's true, it makes my points mute... So if that's true I guess there were no images of the car on either CDs or KBs FB page... Damn

 

[carrottop31]

Checked again, supposedly an LSU decal on the rear window, an LSU vanity plate (which could be easily removed) and damage to the passenger side mirror

I know they can be changed but the wheels are different between CDs car and the Craiglist car and no damage to the passenger side mirror either. No shot of the rear window though. I'd be leaning towards it not being the car

I remember reading somewhere that the photos used by DC's family were not of his actual car because they did not have photos of his actual car.

 

[adian_69]

Just checked the free or sell group KB belongs to. Nothing in posts or comments from her. I went back to the beginning of August. Maybe other groups have some activity.

 

[DakotaMayi]

Just checked the free or sell group KB belongs to. Nothing in posts or comments from her. I went back to the beginning of August. Maybe other groups have some activity.

Thanks again Adian. My facebook app is updating so I haven't even been able to ponder on over yet.

 

[adian_69]

I saw that also. I can't remember exactly what was said since I just woke up, but I'm pretty sure her mother commented. Its almost as if her mom would rather she be with him than CD.

Has anyone else caught that she had another boyfriend between him and CDC though. Go look at her time line and pictures around December 2015. It seems like she lost her "money" around this time, from the loose time line I have in my head, but was only with this guy a very short time. By February, the third guy posts on his page (again trying to speak from memory because I have to hurry up and get ready for work) about missing or losing or letting go of someone - can't remember which and Kala comments that she agrees.

I am very much into the theory that they were all into the polyarmourism (sp?) because of what I've seen on all of the players pages. I'd even go so far as to surmise that KB's mom is involved in the poly community. I think they are all intertwined this way, having all been into various combinations of relationships at one time or another.

Now let me throw another gas on the fire....As an added twist, a key party, female, but not the main party, mentions Master and Submissive relationships a great deal on her page. Possible that this came into play and someone (more than someone) got hurt and it had to be covered up? Or the person that accidentally hurt them hurt themselves too out of guilt or is on the run?




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And, just to add to this, under the liked pgs on KB's Facebook she's like both bdsm and poly pgs, so thats a very good possibility.

 

[GigTu]

To answer earlier questions about sleuthing and what is or is not allowed.... I just think a few of us should hang on to things and provide them to LE or family members if the opportunity arises.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I am very much into the theory that they were all into the polyarmourism (sp?) because of what I've seen on all of the players pages. I'd even go so far as to surmise that KB's mom is involved in the poly community. I think they are all intertwined this way, having all been into various combinations of relationships at one time or another.

Now let me throw another gas on the fire....As an added twist, a key party, female, but not the main party, mentions Master and Submissive relationships a great deal on her page. Possible that this came into play and someone (more than someone) got hurt and it had to be covered up? Or the person that accidentally hurt them hurt themselves too out of guilt or is on the run?

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Snipped for focus and BBM

I've had Brittany Killgore in the back of my mind for a while now.

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[BeeGirl]

Can someone explain more about daily polyamory/BDSM lifestyle? I googled it, so I have the basics down, but is there a community? Gatherings? Or does communication generally come via a dating site level of interaction (swipes only)?

If so, does anyone know how we could get in touch with some of the community members and make sure they know to be on the lookout? If it was more than just a fleeting interest, they could have made some connections or friends that might know things/be able to provide info.

Sorry if these questions are too forward. I bring no judgment, only an open heart and curious mind.


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[tulips0312]

I remember reading somewhere that the photos used by DC's family were not of his actual car because they did not have photos of his actual car.

Yes, the family has said many times that they used a stock photo of a car similar to CD'S because no actual pictures were available and also put out a disclaimer that there may be some discrepancies between the photo and his actual car because of this. So I think if we nitpick against ads that are out there and compare wheel types we may be spinning our wheels. We need VIN numbers to compare

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[tulips0312]

I wanted to jump in as I am trying to get caught up and say that i have pointed this out before but we have a lot of newer people to the thread, so I wanted to throw it out again because I saw someone say they reported something recently to Anderson County Sheriff's Office. Anderson City Police Department has jurisdiction over Anderson Crossing Apartments where the couple lived, as well as where Quality Inn that CDC worked at and was last seen on camera. They will have jurisdiction unless there's information that the two have been last seen in another jurisdiction.

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[GigTu]

Is the craigslist car sale back on the table as something to be looked in to?

 

[KaylaraOwl]

Can someone explain more about daily polyamory/BDSM lifestyle? I googled it, so I have the basics down, but is there a community? Gatherings? Or does communication generally come via a dating site level of interaction (swipes only)?

If so, does anyone know how we could get in touch with some of the community members and make sure they know to be on the lookout? If it was more than just a fleeting interest, they could have made some connections or friends that might know things/be able to provide info.

Sorry if these questions are too forward. I bring no judgment, only an open heart and curious mind.


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I can't comment on the bdsm community too much because I'm not part of it, but an ex of mine was. It's not hard to find groups in many areas, especially if you are into any kind of alternative lifestyles or religions. (Super easy to find pagans who are open about both subjects.)

The same really goes for polyamory. That I can speak to a bit, as I have had poly relationships. You either go looking for people with the express intention to form relationships, like on a dating site, or you can meet people through above mentioned alternative lifestyles. Polyamory isn't swinging. It's having multiple romantic partners at the same time. Each group will have their own rules about that. But (generalizing greatly) most require absolute honesty in the relationships. You wind up talking things to death. And if the relationships go south, especially the primary ones, it can be very, very bad for everyone involved.

 

[BeeGirl]

I can't comment on the bdsm community too much because I'm not part of it, but an ex of mine was. It's not hard to find groups in many areas, especially if you are into any kind of alternative lifestyles or religions. (Super easy to find pagans who are open about both subjects.)

The same really goes for polyamory. That I can speak to a bit, as I have had poly relationships. You either go looking for people with the express intention to form relationships, like on a dating site, or you can meet people through above mentioned alternative lifestyles. Polyamory isn't swinging. It's having multiple romantic partners at the same time. Each group will have their own rules about that. But (generalizing greatly) most require absolute honesty in the relationships. You wind up talking things to death. And if the relationships go south, especially the primary ones, it can be very, very bad for everyone involved.

Thank you! That clears a lot up for me and your explanation makes perfect sense; one meets people how people usually meet people. I think I imagined there was a hub where people all meet up (like Tinder or a gathering place) and we could make sure there were posters or postings so that people could keep an eye out. But it makes sense that it's not "one size fits all."

I still think it would help if we could figure out any hobbies/interests they had (if I ever go missing, you guys check the bars and antique shops and talk to the gardening groups!) On a separate note, I noticed people are angrily commenting on the police FB page asking them what they're doing to find them.


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[x_driven_x]

We are looking forward to this.

I have passed my info along to an appropriate person(s). I will not post it here, because I think it may be relevant and personal in nature. The information is such that it leaves the door open for leaving voluntarily or foul play. If they left voluntarily, it should not be public information and their privacy should be respected, but if they met foul play, it could be useful as it may provide information about who may be involved directly or indirectly.


Apart from that, and after reading all the information I could find here and elsewhere, I have some thoughts.


I think the facebook posts on Charlies account can go either way. Either they left voluntarily and want to be left alone and are upset people are making that difficult, or someone who was involved in their disappearance has access to that account, and possibly other online information.


I believe several scenarios are possible.


1) They left voluntarily or via persuasion, and were planning to meet someone(s) they either knew, or recently met. A situation either got out of hand or there was even possibly a planned attack ahead of time, that led to foul play.


2) They left voluntarily or via persuasion, to actually disappear on their terms, though they left the dog and it is not like them to check in with family I am told. If this is true, they deserve their privacy as grown adults.


3) They left voluntarily and got into a car accident on the way somewhere.


Assuming they did not willingly disappear, I do not believe this was a random attack. in that case, I believe either the ex is involved, a newer partner of the ex, or someone(s) they recently met were involved and manipulated them into a situation beyond their anticipation and control. There are 2 sets of 2 people on this list I think could potentially be involved (not altogether, as an either / or scenario - or someone those 4 people know) besides the main parties, but then again, it could be nothing and I do not want to post personal information in the event it was all voluntary..


I believe they are located in SC, TN, or KY regardless of if they are safe or have been harmed.

 

[GigTu]

I have passed my info along to an appropriate person(s). I will not post it here, because I think it may be relevant and personal in nature. The information is such that it leaves the door open for leaving voluntarily or foul play. If they left voluntarily, it should not be public information and their privacy should be respected, but if they met foul play, it could be useful as it may provide information about who may be involved directly or indirectly.


Apart from that, and after reading all the information I could find here and elsewhere, I have some thoughts.


I think the facebook posts on Charlies account can go either way. Either they left voluntarily and want to be left alone and are upset people are making that difficult, or someone who was involved in their disappearance has access to that account, and possibly other online information.


I believe several scenarios are possible.


1) They left voluntarily or via persuasion, and were planning to meet someone(s) they either knew, or recently met. A situation either got out of hand or there was even possibly a planned attack ahead of time, that led to foul play.


2) They left voluntarily or via persuasion, to actually disappear on their terms, though they left the dog and it is not like them to check in with family I am told. If this is true, they deserve their privacy as grown adults.


3) They left voluntarily and got into a car accident on the way somewhere.


Assuming they did not willingly disappear, I do not believe this was a random attack. in that case, I believe either the ex is involved, a newer partner of the ex, or someone(s) they recently met were involved and manipulated them into a situation beyond their anticipation and control. There are 2 sets of 2 people on this list I think could potentially be involved (not altogether, as an either / or scenario - or someone those 4 people know) besides the main parties, but then again, it could be nothing and I do not want to post personal information in the event it was all voluntary..


I believe they are located in SC, TN, or KY regardless of if they are safe or have been harmed.

Thanks, driven. I do not believe they left voluntarily and abandoned their dog, and I also do not think the ex's are involved in their disappearance 'directly'. I, too, think it's possible they either met a new playmate(s) and things went sideways, or they had a car accident.

 

[x_driven_x]

Thanks, driven. I do not believe they left voluntarily and abandoned their dog, and I also do not think the ex's are involved in their disappearance 'directly'. I, too, think it's possible they either met a new playmate(s) and things went sideways, or they had a car accident.

Under the assumption someone else is involved I believe it is one of these scenarios:

1) The ex and/or a (specific) new partner had some type of fantasy they wanted to play out, and it either got out of control or was intentionally planned harm. I lean more towards it getting out of control than being completely planned.

2) I believe some type of social event may have been recently attended where people were met and either plans were made to meet again discreetly later, or someone from such an event put a plan in motion to manipulate and / or harm the missing. Again, it could have started out voluntary and gotten out of control. I know of at least one secret event, and a few private/public events that fit this category of possibility.

3) I believe it is possibly the couple were persuaded into a scenarios either for fun or for money, which then either went south or was planned.

Again, assuming they are not intentionally missing on their own accord, I lean towards a mostly voluntary scenario going bad, and then some really bad choices being made.

That being said I think there is at least a reasonable percentage chance they did in fact disappear on their own. There are problems with that theory, but my estimates would be higher than single digit percents.

 

[Peachykeen]

Thank you! That clears a lot up for me and your explanation makes perfect sense; one meets people how people usually meet people. I think I imagined there was a hub where people all meet up (like Tinder or a gathering place) and we could make sure there were posters or postings so that people could keep an eye out. But it makes sense that it's not "one size fits all."

I do think poly peeps do possibly meet on some type of online platform. The majority of any type of relationship begins online. I am going to do some research into that. Good post.

 

[Peachykeen]

I have passed my info along to an appropriate person(s). I will not post it here, because I think it may be relevant and personal in nature. The information is such that it leaves the door open for leaving voluntarily or foul play. If they left voluntarily, it should not be public information and their privacy should be respected, but if they met foul play, it could be useful as it may provide information about who may be involved directly or indirectly.


Apart from that, and after reading all the information I could find here and elsewhere, I have some thoughts.


I think the facebook posts on Charlies account can go either way. Either they left voluntarily and want to be left alone and are upset people are making that difficult, or someone who was involved in their disappearance has access to that account, and possibly other online information.


I believe several scenarios are possible.


1) They left voluntarily or via persuasion, and were planning to meet someone(s) they either knew, or recently met. A situation either got out of hand or there was even possibly a planned attack ahead of time, that led to foul play.


2) They left voluntarily or via persuasion, to actually disappear on their terms, though they left the dog and it is not like them to check in with family I am told. If this is true, they deserve their privacy as grown adults.


3) They left voluntarily and got into a car accident on the way somewhere.


Assuming they did not willingly disappear, I do not believe this was a random attack. in that case, I believe either the ex is involved, a newer partner of the ex, or someone(s) they recently met were involved and manipulated them into a situation beyond their anticipation and control. There are 2 sets of 2 people on this list I think could potentially be involved (not altogether, as an either / or scenario - or someone those 4 people know) besides the main parties, but then again, it could be nothing and I do not want to post personal information in the event it was all voluntary..


I believe they are located in SC, TN, or KY regardless of if they are safe or have been harmed.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think number 1 and 3 are most likely. I'm not sure why a couple would disappear voluntarily. They had jobs and other responsibilities. As for giving them privacy cause they DID go off voluntarily. ..I'm not willing to condone that conduct. There are very very few reasons I can think of for that scenario to be acceptable. They have none. Somethings that have bothered me are the lack of any police presence. The mothers of the couple had to pack up their belongings and put them in storage. What if that apartment is a crime scene? I'm also curious to any CCTV in the town. If they have been checked to locate the route the car took . Recently I had a car stolen. The police entered it into their system and immediately they could tell me where the car had last been located. It was recovered in hours due to CCTV.

 

[GigTu]

Thank you! That clears a lot up for me and your explanation makes perfect sense; one meets people how people usually meet people. I think I imagined there was a hub where people all meet up (like Tinder or a gathering place) and we could make sure there were posters or postings so that people could keep an eye out. But it makes sense that it's not "one size fits all."


I do think poly peeps do possibly meet on some type of online platform. The majority of any type of relationship begins online. I am going to do some research into that. Good post.

I know David is/was posting in a poly FB group.