SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #24

[ObsessedNightOwl]

Even though there is plenty of circumstantial evidence,
AM could very well be exonerated or jury hung and mistrial.

Defense may be able to instill enough reasonable doubt
within the jury due to:

- weak / murky / vague motive provided by prosecution
- contamination of crime scene by all LE present
- lack of conclusive forensic / blood / DNA evidence
- sloppy SLED investigation as shown in court and AM interviews w/ LE
- chaotic and incoherent prosecution case - imprecise timeline

Still have defense case to be presented, rebuttals, and closing
arguements, so we shall see.

MOO

 

[BrownRice]

This is the best take of the trial by far. Not even close. The facts are so unbelievable that the prosecution is having a hard time convincing people it could be true.

Do you remember watching the story play out on real time? Everyday waking up to different breaking news. It was unbelievable back then and having more details makes it more unbelievable!

 

[BrownRice]

Funny y’all are talking about hair. Just today i was wondering when it was that he was totally bald, and why. Anyone know? He had hair before and after.

Well he looks a helluva lot better and younger than the bald style he was sporting for a bit. Looked like a white supremacist.

 

[Elley Mae]

Yes, Randy told Sled about the calls. It’s hard to know where Randy stands in his brothers chaos since he is still employed at the firm. He has only been in court 1 or 2 days so far that I have seen. JM has been there more often, the sister daily.

Not sure if he was payed back yet.

The Murdaugh suit also states that Randy loaned $75,000 to his younger brother, under the condition that the loan be repaid within 30 days, but the defendant has not repaid the loan. The suit also alleges that Randy later paid the initial fee of $15,000 to enter Alex into a drug treatment facility in Orange County, Florida.

Alex Murdaugh sued by his brother and a former partner over unpaid loans

Alex Murdaugh's list of civil suits continues to grow as his brother and a former partner sued the former attorney over unpaid loans.

www.blufftontoday.com

 

[Skigirl]

I'm still struggling with why Alex killed both of them. Paul is more understandable (if there is such logic). His death had the potential to diffuse the Beach civil case and increase odds of a lower settlement.

But why Maggie? Was he afraid she would divorce him and further dilute his assets not taken in restitution or civil judgement?

I think he killed Maggie for a number of reasons.

1) Her estate was substantial and he needed/wanted the money.
2) Losing two family members to a "vigilante" would have 100% ended the Mallory Beach trial, which would have stopped the need for his financial disclosures (and recall that although the firm had discovered some of his theft, she did not know about it yet -- and he learned *that morning* that the firm knew and they did not know the full scope of what he'd done)
3) He probably thought it was likely that she would leave him once she learned about the theft from the firm, and then he'd have even bigger financial problems
4) Killing Paul was easier with her out of the way because she would have put a lot of pressure on everyone to solve the crime, and she probably would have 100% cooperated with the police, which would have made it harder to get away with the crime.
5) He couldn't stand the humiliation of her seeing Edisto and Moselle seized by creditors and of her learning that his career and accomplishments were an illusion.
6) It's possible that he was having an affair that hasn't yet come to light, recall that we have heard that he had an affair in the aughts that she knew about. Maybe it was a one-off, or maybe there were more. I suspect, given what we know of his character and behavior that there were others.
7) People kill for all sorts of baffling reasons that make sense to them and them only, and many spouses have been killed for less than the above.

MOO

 

[c@tw0man]

False! Just reference MM's estate probate.

I don't believe AM could chane anything in MM's will, unless it was joint, then only with her knowledge. MOO

 

[Katrinepa]

So a teller would actually generate a cashiers check. This would definitely be on high alert. imo

You can also get a Cashiers check at the Post Office...

 

[Edvis]

Good question. We see so much about blood traces found after a long time and all the chem reaction tricks I’ve wondered if those did have so much splatter on them that he could have gotten them perfectly clean.

Think AM focused on his rain slicker, hands and such down at the kennel sight. Don't think he was worried about much else at the crime scene other then getting out of there, out of the killing clothes he had on, shower then away to stash weapons.

 

[arielilane]

I thought Randy was the blonde headed one and the other brother had dark hair. The blonde headed one has been there just about everyday sitting with Buster. I was wondering where the other one was as I haven't seen him in a long time. I may have their names confused.

Here’s a less than 5 min video.

Randy dark hair and John lighter hair

 

[Gardenista]

Video of Alex's holding cell and lunch remnants

https://twitter.com/x/status/1626572784552841216

 

[Katrinepa]

My hubby with plenty of criminal trial work in his past says that Harpootlian brought that up to show comradery with the witness -- "they are old friends." Hubby listened to much of cross on KK and sized it up as showing the jury they could trust Harpootlian -- he and KK were just two guys collaborating, trying to get at the truth with all the angles and speculation. Only hubby's opinion. I will add I think he also works at confusing the jury (with mirror image). OMO.

Added: Hubby's assessment is that Harpootlian knows exactly what he is doing. He may appear to be a doddering but he is totally calculating every word and gesture.

Absolutely. He began with fumbling, looking for missing papers, which looks like Mr Magoo, but he has been in the biz for over 30 years, and just playing the Jury, like they are stupid enough to fall for his BS. Apparently, this is common for him in court. Aggravating and disrespectful IMPOV.

 

[Gardenista]

Here is something that's been driving me crazy since Day 2 of the trial. The prosecution has asked at least 2 witnesses about straight lines on the cement in front of the kennels and each time the defense strenuously objected and the judge sustained.

Below are links to the 2 photos that show these lines and 1 photo that shows an overall (graphic warning) view of the scene which depicts exactly where the lines are located (in front of the 2 buckets you can see in the kennels.

Does anybody have any thoughts on what the prosecution is getting at here? PS try to ignore the bug in the photo lol.

https://storage.googleapis.com/www-courttv-uploads/2023/01/9e79a8b4-52651470119_1628295d04_o.jpg

https://storage.googleapis.com/www-courttv-uploads/2023/01/2cbb3406-52651198661_c9967ed24b_o.jpg

https://storage.googleapis.com/www-courttv-uploads/2023/02/7eb8efd1-state-506_kennels.jpg

 

[Katrinepa]

Here’s a less than 5 min video.

Randy dark hair and John lighter hair

Yes, and John is not a Lawyer, and closer to Maggie's family than Randy from my observation. Randy seems a bit shifty to me, more like AM. MOO

 

[General wooster]

Even though there is plenty of circumstantial evidence,
AM could very well be exonerated or jury hung and mistrial.

Defense may be able to instill enough reasonable doubt
within the jury due to:

- weak / murky / vague motive provided by prosecution
- contamination of crime scene by all LE present
- lack of conclusive forensic / blood / DNA evidence
- sloppy SLED investigation as shown in court and AM interviews w/ LE
- chaotic and incoherent prosecution case - imprecise timeline

Still have defense case to be presented, rebuttals, and closing
arguements, so we shall see.

MOO

I honestly believe that no reasonable juror will allow this man to walk away from what he has clearly done. The evidence, in all its forms, paints a clear picture for me. I can see it. No amount of jumbo jumbo from the defense can distract me.

 

[303gmf]

Thank you and I will have to check it out, not a GH fan.

Agree! Usually I mute or keep volume very low but his visuals and mapping are the only reason I tune in occasionally

 

[General wooster]

Here is something that's been driving me crazy since Day 2 of the trial. The prosecution has asked at least 2 witnesses about straight lines on the cement in front of the kennels and each time the defense strenuously objected and the judge sustained.

Below are links to the 2 photos that show these lines and 1 photo that shows an overall (graphic warning) view of the scene which depicts exactly where the lines are located (in front of the 2 buckets you can see in the kennels.

Does anybody have any thoughts on what the prosecution is getting at here? PS try to ignore the bug in the photo lol.

https://storage.googleapis.com/www-courttv-uploads/2023/01/9e79a8b4-52651470119_1628295d04_o.jpg

https://storage.googleapis.com/www-courttv-uploads/2023/01/2cbb3406-52651198661_c9967ed24b_o.jpg

https://storage.googleapis.com/www-courttv-uploads/2023/02/7eb8efd1-state-506_kennels.jpg

Walking path of the killer. Single shooter.

 

[Edvis]

According to Maggie's sister, Alex's first goal after the murders was to clear Paul's name.

Alex knew the criminal charge would be dropped, and he hoped for sympathy with the civil suits. When that didn't work, he tried to create more sympathy by staging an attempt on his life. That backfired.

He tried to frame the victims of the boat accident for the murders of his son and wife, and the attempted murder of him on the side of the road while changing a tire.

A man running around with a torch setting fires to distract the attention away from him. Some do it burning a car/ house down to hide evidence AM had his own style, results are the same.

 

[Edvis]

Here’s a less than 5 min video.

Randy dark hair and John lighter hair

Hmmm wonder how many bones the kin are hiding in their closet's as well.

 

[Katrinepa]

sorry to be a nit picker, but is it verified that she has Alzheimer's? I'd like to know only because that implies genetics.

Dementia is different from Alzheimers (and implies different genetics to me). So was mom an early dementia person who was formally diagnosed as having Alz. or was she suffering from the more common condition (senile dementia)?

I'm guessing that none of us know - but I find it relevant to AM and the case.

A number of people confirmed Alzheimers, including her Caretaker. OTOH, some people do not realize there are different types of Dementia and Alzheimers, but only that term has been used from what I heard.

 

[arielilane]

Good morning!
Train kept-a-rollin, all aboard! Ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaa! Bartender is over at the cocktail lounge car and is ready to serve coffee, tea, juice or whatever your morning choice of beverage is. Watch trial live here:

BTW, guards men are waiting on AM to arrive.
Watch trial live here: