SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #31

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While this occurred in federal court, this is how things went down during juror deliberations in Russell Laffitte's case (former CEO Palmetto Bank).

RL sentencing hasn't been scheduled yet and he's since hired new defense attorneys and filed for a new trial citing the juror issue below.

The new defense team cites this should have been declared a mistrial. Personally, I think he stands a good chance of winning his appeal for a new trial.


11/22/22

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They jury began deliberation around 10:20 a.m. Tuesday and worked through lunch.

Shortly after 1:00 p.m., the jury asked Judge Richard Gergel for a transcript of Laffitte’s testimony, which Judge Gergel said was not yet available and would take too long to produce. He instead offered the jury portions of Laffitte’s testimony, which a court reporter could read to them, but the jury did not take him up on the offer.

Around 3:00 p.m., the jury asked to listen again to a secret recording of a November 3 Palmetto State Bank board meeting made by Laffitte. The tape was played and the jury returned to deliberation.

Just before 6:30 p.m., the jury ordered pizza and continued working through dinner.

Around 7:45 p.m., the jurors brought four notes to the judge. Notes one and two were about a juror needing an antibiotic and feeling pressured to change his/her vote. Note three detailed a juror’s concerns about a “hostile juror room, a juror with prior jury experience who is fearful of being bullied, and a group of jurors who do not agree with the judge’s last charge.” Note four was about a juror who is experiencing anxiety.

Judge Gergel questioned whether it was necessary to bring in an alternate juror and start the process all over again. The jurors said that they did not want to come in on Wednesday and wanted to continue deliberating Tuesday night.

Around 8:30 p.m., two jurors were relieved and replaced with alternates. The jury then resumed deliberation.

Shortly before 9:30 p.m., court was called back into session and defense raised objection to the alternate juror who was brought in to relieve the juror with anxiety. Defense claimed that it should have been an hung jury.

Moments later, the jury announced that they had reached a verdict of guilty on all counts.
 
I think testimony given by MM's sister was critical as it relates to why MM was there, because she wasnt normally. it was the last time her sister actually spoke to MM on June 7th around 4 in the afternoon. MM called her and part of the discussion was AM wanting maggie to come to the estate and maggie didnt plan on it and maggie was told by MM that Paul was going to be there. the AM reason for asking maggie per her sister: because of his ailing father and they would go visit his parents together. she encouraged MM to go and be supportive and she did. no doubt in my mind he lured her there because obviously there was no plan to go visit together. her sister encouraged her to go. so sad for her. :(
 
I also wondered if this was about fear of contraband getting to AM since news was breaking about his misdemeanor charges from an earlier incident.

I thought if not the contraband issue, perhaps giving Judge Newman an earful about the rumored juror with a blanket that stuffed kleenex in her ears on Friday afternoon. Can't make this stuff up!

She’ll be excused; Judge Newman don’t play.
 
I'm not an expert, but in my view, the prosecutor was a disaster. He let AM take control of the cross. Actually letting AM rephrase his own questions on very many occasions. How can that be??? It's like a photographic negative of the trial in My Cousin Vinnie. If there's a mistrial, the prosecution will have been hoodwinked. If the jury votes for conviction, it means that I don't understand bonk about this culture.
I thibnk the jury will see through AM's word salad BS. Creighton allowed the defendant to keep talking because he exposed himself, imo. He was lying through his teeth and it was obvious.
 
Because he knew he would be suspect #1. First "lawyer" instinct - distance yourself from the carnage because even if innocent they will circle you like buzzards to carrion and in his previous experiences with SLED found them to be untrustworthy. He also didn't mention his financial problems or his most recent exposure as a firm thief.

The family's lifestyle was bigger than his million dollar a year earnings and every thing they owned was mortgaged and used as collateral for bank loans. Red flags should have been popping up all over that firm <modsnip - not victim friendly>

Anyone with a $50K/month drug addiction associates directly, or indirectly, with big-time, dangerous drug dealers - the kind of people who kill the family of the debtor/double crosser because it inflicts a lifetime pain on the dead beat druggie. The kind who take unregistered weapons as offerings. MS-13 ring a bell? Just an example.

Anyone who steals hundreds of thousands or millions from people makes enemies. Enemies that will never recover their losses and who sit around having bourbons and decide to get revenge.

If your drunk, <modsnip> kid loads up his boat with friends and takes control of it while drunk AF, killing a young woman in the process, he, and, by affiliation his family, make enemies.

The whole family were irresponsible gun owners and seemingly had loaded guns scattered around in homes and vehicles, used by any number of people from groups of hunting friends and anyone who came onto the property could find loaded rifles and shotguns in a truck/golf cart or even on the pool table. It is no wonder that long guns went missing there.

MM had unidentified male DNA under her nails.

He's a liar for sure, but he had a lot to hide that had nothing to do with him killing his family. And, he knew he needed to separate himself from the scene so as to not be the focus.

Everybody lies.

I can tell you every detail of what I did after finding a loved one dead, but have no memory of the hours before. It's like the day started at that moment and every thing before that moment is gone. I must have showered, it's a routine. I must have dressed myself as I was dressed when it happened. I called family and friends, a friend called 911 for me. I went through the motions, as stoically as possible to get it all over with so I could melt into an ocean of tears.

I imagine that seeing your son's brains on the sidewalk and your wife riddled with bullets would trigger shock, horror, unimaginable grief, confusion as to how to proceed, and answers to questions that make no sense.

It could have been anybody.

While it is more likely than not that he killed them, 51/49 is not enough to overcome reasonable doubt.

And, I believe it was reversible error to allow the exhaustive financial testimony of prior bad acts.

Notably, none of them involved violence against any person.

All just my humble opinion.

When you steal from the needy, commit acts against people “you love” for your own selfish desires that is violence, just not physical violence. It’s abusive in its purest form.

Imagine Anthony Cook being prosecuted with a criminal record and imprisonment because AM lied about Paul not being the driver of the boat. That is mental violence and anguish. Not all violence is physical.

The ‘exhaustive’ financial testimony was to show how he lied and stole from people “he loved” over and over and over. Not just one friend or one family, one employee or several, and on and on…it’s a long list. Doing something once is very different than a patterned history of it over decades.

He lied up until yesterday…why, because he was found out, not because he was remorseful. That too was self serving. And he is still lying…at the expense of others.

Unless there is video of him killing his wife and son he will lie about it. It’s hard to believe that a liar didn’t do the unspeakable when they lie their way through life to get what they want. Whatever it takes.

“It could have been anybody” Nobody else was there. AM ‘accidentally’ said himself that no one else was there. You can’t have anybody when there is nobody.
 
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I love this man. He’s strong, well reasoned, and he doesn’t bend to pressure. I wish we had him presiding over the Morphew case.

I do too! You described him well. It takes someone like him to stop DH in his tracks. He shuts the bs down so smoothly but with force. I have a vision of DH thinking to himself ‘what just happened’?!

Gosh we need more like him in every court.
 
I also wondered if this was about fear of contraband getting to AM since news was breaking about his misdemeanor charges from an earlier incident.

I thought if not the contraband issue, perhaps giving Judge Newman an earful about the rumored juror with a blanket that stuffed kleenex in her ears on Friday afternoon. Can't make this stuff up!

Trying to be removed from the jury????
 
Trying to be removed from the jury????
I just don’t see it. Most people (or me if I was called) do that right off the bat. If true, yes, she should be dismissed. I’m feeling A Wednesday verdict. Closing should be Monday. In an ideal world the verdict is Monday as well. Late Tuesday makes the most sense… but South Carolina. Been there, done that, so I can say what I just said.
 

During the trial, Waters asked Murdaugh if he had any evidence to back up the theory that “someone off social media” with a vendetta slipped onto his property and killed Paul and Maggie during the narrow window when he was not with them.

Murdaugh didn’t respond to the question, nor did he elaborate on why Maggie would have been targeted.

Murdaugh’s wild theory came the day after he admitted in court to lying about being near the kennels with his wife and son just moments before they were shot dead.

Murdaugh, who comes from a powerful lineage of South Carolina lawyers, has also admitted on the stand to stealing money and being addicted to opioids at the time of the slayings.
 
He doesn't need to provide any evidence for his theory does he?
 
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