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Cindizzi said:
Hasn’t he already appealed and lost? Does he have new lawyers now ?
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I believe the defense appealed the lower court's decision on their defense motion following the dismissal of the juror(s) during deliberations, and lost. However, Drew Tripp's tweet was announcing the date of the Oral Argument for the Federal appeal of his conviction. The pending appeal cites the juror dismissal as just one of the claims.
 
Cindizzi said:
This is the most recent I can find:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1811388717950480385


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Thank you, @Cindizzi!

I am very sad about how all this turned out with BH. My hearts says at the get-go she was a nice Southern lady with very good intentions in serving her community well and with pride, but she got in over her head with all the publicity, adoration, and responsibilities. Got rushed, was unsophisticated — sometimes naive, and didn’t stop long enough to think things through. I don’t want to believe she was actually a coniving criminal — my feeling is everything snowballed and things went to her head — at least this is what I hope. OMO.

I also hope this is resolved soon for her and everyone concerned.

Things seem to move so slow in S.C. When will we ever get a definitive final answer on Stephen Smith? Why SLED reopened the investigation after the Murdaugh murders? I think GS death is closed but I don’t think we ever got the truth. MOO.
 
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LetsSolvIt said:
Thank you!

I am very sad about how all this turned out with BH. My hearts says at the get-go she was a nice Southern lady with very good intentions in serving her community well and with pride, but she got in over her head with all the publicity, adoration, and responsibilities. Got rushed, was unsophisticated — sometimes naive, and didn’t stop long enough to think things through. I don’t want to believe she was actually a coniving criminal — my feeling is everything snowballed and things went to her head — at least this is what I hope. OMO.

I also hope this is resolved soon for her and everyone concerned.

Things seem to move so slow in S.C. When will we ever get a definitive final answer on Stephen Smith? Why SLED reopened the investigation after the Murdaugh murders? I think GS death is closed but I don’t think we ever got the truth. MOO.
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I'm not so sure about that. Have you looked at the charges against her? They're a couple of pages back in the thread.

Among the allegations are that she paid herself thousands of dollars in unauthorized bonuses with Federal money that was earmarked to help children. And it started in 2021, long before the Alex Murdaugh trial.


edit - Here's an article that lays out the charges: https://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article288854860.html
 
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ch_13 said:
I'm not so sure about that. Have you looked at the charges against her? They're a couple of pages back in the thread.

Among the allegations are that she paid herself thousands of dollars in unauthorized bonuses with Federal money that was earmarked to help children. And it started in 2021, long before the Alex Murdaugh trial.


edit - Here's an article that lays out the charges: https://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article288854860.html
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Forgot about all that — yes you are correct. Guessing I’m trying to see good in her from public face, but all that self payment, if proven, is definitely wrong, as well as plagiarism, interacting with jury, etc. Guess she was good at rationalizing. :( And guess I’m wrong — seems she premeditated on some bad stuff to benefit herself :( MOO.

Worst thing would be if any of her actions get AM off. Arghhhh.

It is still sad.
 
The disbarred South Carolina attorney convicted of two murders and scores of fraud charges has appealed his federal prison sentence, and a federal appeals court announced this week that it may hear that appeal as early as this fall.

In the wake of his March 2023 convictions in the June 2021 killings of his wife and son, and amid a guilty plea deal on state fraud charges, Alex Murdaugh pleaded guilty to federal fraud charges in September 2023 and was sentenced April 2024 to 40 years in federal prison.


Yet despite signing off on the 22-count, no-contest federal plea deal, which has general provisions prohibiting appeals, Murdaugh's attorneys filed an appeal on that sentence on July 11.

Ironically, Murdaugh, a man convicted of shooting his family members multiple times with high-powered hunting weapons and who pleaded guilty to stealing from injured clients, widowers, orphans, and paraplegics, framed his appeal argument around the Eighth Amendment, which prohibits excessive and cruel or unusual punishments.

www.greenvilleonline.com

Court to hear Murdaugh federal appeal that 40-year sentence cruel and unusual punishment

The former S.C. attorney convicted of shooting family members multiple times, stealing from vulnerable injured clients says sentence cruel, unusual.
www.greenvilleonline.com
 
sds71 said:
The disbarred South Carolina attorney convicted of two murders and scores of fraud charges has appealed his federal prison sentence, and a federal appeals court announced this week that it may hear that appeal as early as this fall.

In the wake of his March 2023 convictions in the June 2021 killings of his wife and son, and amid a guilty plea deal on state fraud charges, Alex Murdaugh pleaded guilty to federal fraud charges in September 2023 and was sentenced April 2024 to 40 years in federal prison.


Yet despite signing off on the 22-count, no-contest federal plea deal, which has general provisions prohibiting appeals, Murdaugh's attorneys filed an appeal on that sentence on July 11.

Ironically, Murdaugh, a man convicted of shooting his family members multiple times with high-powered hunting weapons and who pleaded guilty to stealing from injured clients, widowers, orphans, and paraplegics, framed his appeal argument around the Eighth Amendment, which prohibits excessive and cruel or unusual punishments.

www.greenvilleonline.com

Court to hear Murdaugh federal appeal that 40-year sentence cruel and unusual punishment

The former S.C. attorney convicted of shooting family members multiple times, stealing from vulnerable injured clients says sentence cruel, unusual.
www.greenvilleonline.com
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And this is the exact profile of one capable of murdering their wife and son -- and believe they can get away with the crime.
 
Cindizzi said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1819112504238154153
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Yes, sure is ‘ripe’ IMO…… just have to ask and wonder……

So IIUC the defendant and his counsel thought the deal was good enough to have signed it, and even apparently with a stipulation or condition that it was not allowed to be appealed? Right? And now this?

So what changed? SMH. Why does this ‘wonderful example’ of SC / federal jurisprudence get another bite of the apple? IMO that apple is gone, consumed. (Insert furrowed brow of disgust)…. MOO
 
FOX Carolina locale affiliate August 13, 2024 online article by Steven Ardary entitled ‘SC Supreme Court will hear Alex Murdaugh jury tampering case’:

www.foxcarolina.com

SC Supreme Court will hear Alex Murdaugh jury tampering case

The South Carolina Supreme Court on Tuesday said it will hear arguments and decide if a judge ruled incorrectly that former Lowcountry attorney Alex Murdaugh shouldn’t be granted a new murder trial over a claim of jury tampering.
www.foxcarolina.com www.foxcarolina.com

Note: to my understanding, local affiliate FOX news is allowed on WS. Whereas national / central links are not. And the interest of recent updates on the Alex Murdaugh double murder trial this is believed of importance to the case to post.
 
www.fitsnews.com

Supreme Court Agrees To Hear Alex Murdaugh's Jury Tampering Case - FITSNews

Convicted killer's appeal on hold while high court reviews controversial decision not to grant him a new trial...
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South Carolina’s supreme court justices filed an order on Tuesday (August 13, 2024) agreeing to certify the appeal of Alex Murdaugh’s murder convictions – meaning they will take up the controversial decision reached back in January to deny Murdaugh a new trial on the basis of alleged jury tampering.

The ruling from the high court came a little over a month after a motion to certify Murdaugh’s appeal was filed by his attorneys – Dick Harpootlian, Jim Griffin, Phillip Barber and Maggie Fox. That motion (.pdf) asked the justices to revisit former S.C. chief justice Jean Toal’s decision from January denying Murdaugh a new trial – even though he appeared to have met the high bar she established in his case (and even though federal law appears to be on Murdaugh’s side).

According to Murdaugh’s attorneys, Toal erred in denying his motion for a new trial – effectively “ruling that South Carolina courts should disregard (the) binding precedent of the U.S. supreme court.”
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According to the motion filed by Murdaugh’s counsel, the state supreme court must decide “whether the verdict returned after Mr. Murdaugh’s internationally televised murder trial should be overturned due to unprecedented jury tampering by a state official, the former Colleton County clerk of court.”

The legal principle of major importance the defense is asking the court to consider?

“Whether it is presumptively prejudicial for a state official to secretly advocate for a guilty verdict through ex parte contacts with jurors during trial, or whether a defendant, having proven the contacts occurred, must also somehow prove the verdict would have been different at a hypothetical trial in which the surreptitious advocacy did not occur,” Murdaugh’s lawyers argued.

In other words, was the tampering itself enough to warrant a new trial? Or did Murdaugh’s lawyers also need to prove it impacted the outcome of the proceedings?
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