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It would explain a lot if they sent the evidence to India for processing.....So....for the second time, what is SS lab? I googled it and came up with stuff in India. Care to share with the rest of the class?
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It would explain a lot if they sent the evidence to India for processing.....So....for the second time, what is SS lab? I googled it and came up with stuff in India. Care to share with the rest of the class?
So....for the second time, what is SS lab? I googled it and came up with stuff in India. Care to share with the rest of the class?
Best I can come up with is sample submission labs. Not sure if that is what was meant though. Lots of entries if you search with that.
It would explain a lot if they sent the evidence to India for processing.....![]()
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United States Secret Service: Forensic Services
http://www.secretservice.gov/forensics.shtml
www.secretservice.gov
foremost forensics experts in the world re electronic communications
been called in for other cases that Ive seen on WS, ie Hailey Dunn, Karen Swift...
no linky, so just my :twocents:
Colorado Kidnapping/Abduction Laws
http://kidnapping.uslegal.com/state-kidnapping-abduction-laws/colorado-kidnappingabduction-laws/
a person commits first degree kidnapping if s/he carries any person from one place to another using force; or persuades another to move; or imprisons or secrets any person with the intent to force the victim to make any concession or give up anything of value in order to secure release.
a person commits second degree kidnapping when s/he seizes and carries any person from one place to another, without his consent and without lawful authority; or s/he takes away any child below 18 years with intent to keep or conceal the child from his or her parent or guardian or with intent to sell, trade, or barter such child for consideration.
The kidnapping charges are then broken down by degree or "class".
What I find interesting is that on the house, trailer, outbuilding etc., the SW specifies First Degree Kidnapping, Class 1 This is the most serious of the Felony charges and carries a much harsher sentence. This is because it relates to whether the victim suffered bodily injury:
A person committing first degree kidnapping is guilty of a class 1 felony if the victim suffered bodily injury. However a person convicted of first degree kidnapping shall not be awarded death penalty if the person kidnapped was liberated alive prior to the conviction of the defendant.
Did LE already have a pretty good idea that Dylan had suffered harm? And why would they utilize this specific charge if this was some sort of blanket SW with no particular suspect/defendent in mind?
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BBM:Can anyone tell me how the BBM would mean the GBBM?"They are and yes they did...The question I asked investigators yesterday was.........Explain to me the fundamental difference in "being kidnapped"and "being abducted"......
If there was probable cause for 1 there there was for the other. Leading me to believe more could have been done in the first few days of Dylan's disappearance...."
The first quote from Mark in Tricia's post said:
BBM:Can anyone tell me how the BBM would mean the GBBM?
How does the difference (or sameness) in "being kidnapped" and "being abducted" lead someone to believe that more could be done in the first few days of Dylan's disappearance? (This is me not saying anything about the FIRST day)
Probable cause for both or either would not make any difference. Am I reading the quote wrong, somehow?
Redwine said in an interview Friday with The Durango Herald that no Amber Alert was issued when Dylan first went missing Nov. 19 from the Vallecito area because the case didnt meet the criteria for an alert.
Law-enforcement officers have to confirm a child has been abducted before issuing an alert, according to the U.S. Department of Justice Amber Alert website.
I firmly believe that the most critical time was in the first day or two or three and that everything possible should have been done. I think that not enough was done in that time frame, Mark Redwine said in the interview.
The first quote from Mark in Tricia's post said:
BBM:Can anyone tell me how the BBM would mean the GBBM?
How does the difference (or sameness) in "being kidnapped" and "being abducted" lead someone to believe that more could be done in the first few days of Dylan's disappearance? (This is me not saying anything about the FIRST day)
Probable cause for both or either would not make any difference. Am I reading the quote wrong, somehow?
If you read the search warrants, they say "Evidence sought would be used in a subsequent criminal investigation for the charge of" whatever the charge they think it would be used for.So my question is (not directed at you, Lordeebee, just a general question) to what extent does the charge listed on the search warrant have to relate to charges pressed against an alleged perpetrator? How do they know what to even put on the search warrant?
Thank you for the link. My following post is not directed at you, it's just included with my thank you.Maybe this is the link. That use of the term kidnapped (which LE was apparently thinking as shown in the search warrant) vs abducted (required criteria)somehow prevented the Amber Alert?
http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...519520/0/FRONTPAGE/Mark-Redwine-knocks-search
Thank you for the link. My following post is not directed at you, it's just included with my thank you.
My problem is that MARK didn't think Dylan had been abducted or kidnapped or whatever that first day, and insisted the mail lady had seen Dylan walking around, so if the parent doesn't think abduction (or kidnapping), why would LE? Mark is telling them that Dylan took all his belongings and what kidnapper does that? Mark is telling them that Dylan's fishing pole is missing, what kidnapper would take that? From the beginning, Dylan was painted by Mark as a boy who may have wandered off to fish, or may have hitchhiked to see his friends.
Dylan's disappearance didn't meet the criteria for an Amber Alert, no matter the definition of abducted or kidnapped. One of the criteria is Sufficient Descriptive Information (must have enough information to believe that immediate broadcast to the public will enhance the efforts of law enforcement to locate the child and apprehend the suspect), and there wasn't any of that available. What were they going to say? There was no suspect, no vehicle, they didn't know what Dylan was wearing, where he could have disappeared from (the house, the road, the woods?) or when.
"Attention all states, look for a 13 year old blonde boy possibly wearing a black shirt and shorts or not, who has been missing since anywhere from 7:30am to 4:30pm from either his home, or the road or the woods or somewhere else in Vallecito or Bayfield, CO, and may be traveling in an unknown vehicle, or not, on any given highway or side road, or just walking with or without a fishing pole anyplace. And he might be wearing a hat or backpack or both." Also remember, there are no pictures on the roadway Amber Alert signs, and we aren't allowed to look at our cell phones when driving, so no abductor information means a sparse highway alert sign.
I seriously doubt a semantics issue is what kept an Amber Alert from being issued.
AND releasing these (incomplete) search warrants was somehow supposed to prove that this made sense?
If I take MR's words at face value, he seems to think that the search warrant shows that there was a reasonable belief that Dylan was kidnapped and that the response from LE could have been different. He seems to also want people to ask better questions. Again, taking him at face value, he seems frustrated, which is a normal state for the parent of a missing child. It has been people commenting who attributed transparency to his actions. That is not something that MR himself said.
IMO it spelt it out that LE had a reasonable belief of MR being the person responsible, ie either he was the kidnapper or MR arranged for someone else to kidnap Dylan.
IMO it spelt it out that LE had a reasonable belief of MR being the person responsible, ie either he was the kidnapper or MR arranged for someone else to kidnap Dylan.
IMO it spelt it out that LE had a reasonable belief of MR being the person responsible, ie either he was the kidnapper or MR arranged for someone else to kidnap Dylan.
Would the same reason not be listed on the SW for Elaine's house and any other+
search warrants served? Do you know who else was served with SWs?