Searches for Lisa

[In da Middle]

Has anyone searched around 3652 White ave? Here is a map of the area my link. I wish more people would go looking for her, I know they say it might destroy potential evidence but at this point if someone doesn't find her soon it may just turn out to be like poor Caylee where only her bones were found and they couldn't 100% say a cause of death.

What brings up this particular address? Anything specific? It is on the total other side of town south of the river.

 

[leanaí]

They need to start thinking outside of the box when looking for Lisa. If i am not mistaken there is a garbage there and that area should be looked at.

 

[natsound]

For the Lisa Irwin case archive, there is a sub-album just for search pics, articles, vids.

The latest psychic-inspired search is there (along with a temper tantrum I'm not sure I understand)

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Lisa Irwin -MO-/Searching for Lisa/


The main Lisa Irwin case album is here:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Lisa Irwin -MO-/

Can we get this in a sticky, mods? :great:

 

[norest4thewicked]

Does anyone have a map or information regarding the location of the old well?

 

[MagnoliaMom]

They need to start thinking outside of the box when looking for Lisa. If i am not mistaken there is a garbage there and that area should be looked at.

While I agree they need to start thinking outside of the box, I don't understand the connection to this address. The city is full of garbages. Why this one?

 

[In da Middle]

While I agree they need to start thinking outside of the box, I don't understand the connection to this address. The city is full of garbages. Why this one?

I think, again, people are looking at the WRONG Lister. This particular address is within blocks of the WRONG Lister. The address needs to be N Lister. If the 3600 block of Lister you see does not intersect with Chelsea in two places within 2 blocks, it is the WRONG Lister. The wrong Lister does not intersect with Chelsea.

 

[Rooster27]

http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...o-search-well-found-by-psychic-baby-lisa-case

Forgive me if this has been posted, but at the time of my writing, i have not seen it on here yet. I found a few links about this, this seemed to have the most information, regarding the discovered well, or a type of water hole.

The "psychic" that may or may not be envisioning this particular site, stated that there was some type of hole that she was seeing the baby in. I hate writing that. Anyway, the websleuths poster who dreamt about the disappearance of the baby, long ago now, early October she posted, mentioned bricks. And something under a table.

I had a dream about a ring and a worm. Literally. A few days later i noticed a ring on my arm. We had just adopted a new dog. I didn't know what it was until someone told me I had ringworm. My dream mind had known this days earlier, but i didn't know how to interpret it. Perhaps the "table" in the dream was not literal and was speaking of a water table.

Look, I know that psychic dreams and visions are not accepted by many, and I fully respect that. I have stated before that you can't count on any of these things, because they are often misleading, you can never know why you are receiving thoughts, visions, dreams, but i thought of the bricks and this well and the texas psychic's water hole, and the fact that they already searched a well early on, i believe based on a "tip", maybe from another psychic.... who may have seen a well.

This is the search thread, not a psychic thread, but hey, if we are to believe the reports, a psychic is going to lead LE to search this well. It's at least keeping the search alive.

Has a map of the area been posted, particularly the proximity to the early morning baby sighting by motorcycle man? Or to the white blob? Neither of which I am convinced is anything, but just out of curiosity.

And again forgive my stupidity but where did the search of the old casino thread go? It was moved.... where?

 

[Jacie Estes]

I think, again, people are looking at the WRONG Lister. This particular address is within blocks of the WRONG Lister. The address needs to be N Lister. If the 3600 block of Lister you see does not intersect with Chelsea in two places within 2 blocks, it is the WRONG Lister. The wrong Lister does not intersect with Chelsea.

Totally different neighborhood.



Your post reminded me of this quote from Wavy Gravy:

"That the brown acid that is circulating around us isn't too good." Wavy Gravy

 

[Rooster27]

sorry, dr. know posted the examiner link last night, i thought it was the other examiner article about the blog. thanks!

 

[MagnoliaMom]

I think, again, people are looking at the WRONG Lister. This particular address is within blocks of the WRONG Lister. The address needs to be N Lister. If the 3600 block of Lister you see does not intersect with Chelsea in two places with 2 blocks, it is the WRONG Lister. The wrong Lister does not intersect with Chelsea.

I pulled this address up on google maps and walked about then backed it up to see how close to the house it is. It really isn't far - about a mile - very wooded, swampy area to the southeast near the river.

It is just disheartening to look at all the wooded areas up close on the map. So much space, such a small child and too much time passed...:anguish:

 

[Jacie Estes]

We've been away for a few days and I'm catching up.

The psychic directed peeps to an area where they found an old/unknown, prior to the search, well/spring/something like that? At least it is a new place to search.

 

[GoodGurl]

Re: Stroud's Chicken. I believe it was reported that they ate a chicken dinner on Monday night. Did DB and brother PN pick up chicken dinner at Stroud's while out on the errand that day? Perhaps along with the connection to teen-JT, that has prompted the searches?

 

[In da Middle]

I pulled this address up on google maps and walked about then backed it up to see how close to the house it is. It really isn't far - about a mile - very wooded, swampy area to the southeast near the river.

It is just disheartening to look at all the wooded areas up close on the map. So much space, such a small child and too much time passed...:anguish:

Nope. WAAAY over a mile. Like I said. Wrong Lister. Look at what I described about Lister intersecting Chelsea. No intersection = wrong Lister. The address in the above post is E Lister NOT N Lister.

ETA more than 10 miles. The zip code needs to read 64117 NOT 64129.

 

[In da Middle]

Re: Stroud's Chicken. I believe it was reported that they ate a chicken dinner on Monday night. Did DB and brother PN pick up chicken dinner at Stroud's while out on the errand that day? Perhaps along with the connection to teen-JT, that has prompted the searches?

Stroud's is not known to be a 'take out' place. It's a very nice restaurant that serves food 'home style'. Your sides come out in a big bowl to your table and you serve it family style. It has an awsome country style atmosphere and BIG servings. You almost always have to wait to be seated. You can wander the grounds while waiting. I don't even know if the have take out. I know they didn't use to anyway. I haven't been there for a while so it could have changed, but they are very busy with just seated customers.

 

[In da Middle]

We've been away for a few days and I'm catching up.

The psychic directed peeps to an area where they found an old/unknown, prior to the search, well/spring/something like that? At least it is a new place to search.

According to people working there - already been searched. Just not reported by the media at the time.

 

[In da Middle]

Pretty sure Stroud's still does not have take out. Here's website. Check it out mmmmmm Great place to eat.
http://www.stroudsrestaurant.com/north.html

 

[Snowbunny]

http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...o-search-well-found-by-psychic-baby-lisa-case

Forgive me if this has been posted, but at the time of my writing, i have not seen it on here yet. I found a few links about this, this seemed to have the most information, regarding the discovered well, or a type of water hole.

The "psychic" that may or may not be envisioning this particular site, stated that there was some type of hole that she was seeing the baby in. I hate writing that. Anyway, the websleuths poster who dreamt about the disappearance of the baby, long ago now, early October she posted, mentioned bricks. And something under a table.

I had a dream about a ring and a worm. Literally. A few days later i noticed a ring on my arm. We had just adopted a new dog. I didn't know what it was until someone told me I had ringworm. My dream mind had known this days earlier, but i didn't know how to interpret it. Perhaps the "table" in the dream was not literal and was speaking of a water table.

Look, I know that psychic dreams and visions are not accepted by many, and I fully respect that. I have stated before that you can't count on any of these things, because they are often misleading, you can never know why you are receiving thoughts, visions, dreams, but i thought of the bricks and this well and the texas psychic's water hole, and the fact that they already searched a well early on, i believe based on a "tip", maybe from another psychic.... who may have seen a well.

This is the search thread, not a psychic thread, but hey, if we are to believe the reports, a psychic is going to lead LE to search this well. It's at least keeping the search alive.

Has a map of the area been posted, particularly the proximity to the early morning baby sighting by motorcycle man? Or to the white blob? Neither of which I am convinced is anything, but just out of curiosity.

And again forgive my stupidity but where did the search of the old casino thread go? It was moved.... where?

Rooster27 if you listen to Websleuths Radio from last night Levi Page exposed the psychic. She's a fraud and I knew as soon as I saw her name on the thread who she was. She pulled the same thing in the HaLeigh Cummings case. She stole someone else's vision and claimed it as her own in both cases. As a matter of fact, according to Levi she charged HaLeigh's grandmother $600 which I think is pretty sad. I have personally talked to Marie on the phone and she is completely devistated over her granddaughter being missing and to have this person pull what she did peeves me to no end. The Sheffields' and Griffis' have been through enough pain to last a lifetime and my heart goes out to them. And now the so called psychic strikes again and Levi exposed the fact that she stole someone else's vision again. In both cases this so called psychic claimed there was a well. Same senario repeated and then she tells everybody how broke she is and tries to pull on everybody's heart strings. If she was so broke she wouldn't be able to afford cellphone for herself and kids, let alone a computer. There are people who don't have roof over their heads or food on the table who know what it is like to be broke. This woman is pathetic and gives a bad name to the real psychics that do exist.

 

[MagnoliaMom]

Nope. WAAAY over a mile. Like I said. Wrong Lister. Look at what I described about Lister intersecting Chelsea. No intersection = wrong Lister. The address in the above post is E Lister NOT N Lister.

ETA more than 10 miles. The zip code needs to read 64117 NOT 64129.

Put it in this way "3652 White Ave Kansas City, MO 64117" and it shows a road to the east of Searcy Creek Parkway just above Armour Road - may also be NE 33rd St but turns into White Ave and dead ends into the woods.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

If her blog is any indication, I can understand why the mods decided to close the thread.

That'll teach me to get my hopes up. :banghead:

Marc Klaas where are you? Hope someone puts sanity back into serious searches for Lisa. :sigh:

BBM: Yes ... WHY oh WHY haven't the parents contacted Marc Klaas to lead up the searches ? :banghead: Or even another professional S&R Group ?

IMO ... it speaks "volumes" WHY the parents do not want the professionals involved ...

MOO ...

 

[In da Middle]

Put it in this way "3652 White Ave Kansas City, MO 64117" and it shows a road to the east of Searcy Creek Parkway just above Armour Road - may also be NE 33rd St but turns into White Ave and dead ends into the woods.

But the map that was posted was in 64129. Not 64117. You are looking at the correct one. And there is NO 3652 N White 64117.