Sentencing and beyond- Jodi Arias General Discussion #3

[Caylee Advocate]

I think she removed some of the blood in Travis's bathroom, but she didn't have time to remove all of it. She has to get blood out of every crevice in her body, from under fingernails, up her nose, in her shoes....Even carrying a bloody towel and bloody weapons to the car would have bloodied her. I don't believe she would have approached a trucker "streaked with blood." Knowing Jodi, she could have lied about that, anyway. There's always the "accident with menses" possibility. And there's zero problem finding a trucker with a BJ on offer.

I can only imagine all the blood she had on her, blood if only a small amount is difficult to remove, especially from under your nails. What a true monster!!!! I wonder if she ever has nightmares about it?

 

[GigiG]

Snipped from article:




"I wonder what Darryl Brewer saw in her. Could it be that she worked hard and was very nice to his son? Or was she a cult leader working to pay the mortgage? And what about Matt? Did he remain a good friend after he cheated on her because she had a hold on him? She could not make him faithful with her special power? This woman never had a free ride in her life."


ME:

WTF trial did she watch to come to this conclusion I wonder? She probably follows the nutty supporters site as most of the comments are from those foul mouthed idiots



http://www.thetroublewithjustice.com/raising-the-bar-but-certainly-not-in-arizona/

What a whacked article. The snippet you shared is crazy, but it doesn't come close to conveying just how weirdly biased the writer is. But then, when you go down and read the comments (from the usual gang), it becomes obvious who the intended audience is.

 

[Hope4More]

Not sure where to post this. Travis's brother Steven has been living with Tanisha, as he's been very ill. He's just taken a turn for the even worse.

More info on the State v. (FB page).


ETA. Not suggesting anything, but just saying that when I've written in support directly to members of T's family, I've never failed to receive a long and personalized reply.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Not sure where to post this. Travis's brother Stephen has been living with Tanisha, as he's been very ill. He's just taken a turn for the even worse.

More info on the State v. (FB page).

Thanks Hope. I went and read the updates, and Tanisha is so worried. This family has been through so much. Steven is hopefully in therapy for all of his stress, and although very hard, needs to someway get past it all. He has been through hell and back hasn't he?

 

[RickshawFan]

Not sure where to post this. Travis's brother Steven has been living with Tanisha, as he's been very ill. He's just taken a turn for the even worse.

More info on the State v. (FB page).


ETA. Not suggesting anything, but just saying that when I've written in support directly to members of T's family, I've never failed to receive a long and personalized reply.

It's good that he has strong family support. What these young adults have had to go through; just terrible......

 

[TexMex]

apparently from JAII site..probably already posted here but just in case
From Aug 2015

http://radaronline.com/photos/jodi-...r-church-self-defense-class-tv/photo/1187405/

Arias railed against the press coverage her case got on television, but according to the site she had a TV and was watching the news and telenovelas to keep up with her Spanish., Arias has a slew of magazines – Vanity Fair and even The Economist!
The murderer is slowly getting her security relaxed. After living in the maximum security prison for a few months, she no longer was in full restraints and also no longer had two guards escorting her to visitation time, the website claimed. Arias is now reportedly branching out into the general population, having meals in the Perryville "dining room."

 

[RickshawFan]

News apparently from JAII site..

http://radaronline.com/photos/jodi-...r-church-self-defense-class-tv/photo/1187405/

Arias railed against the press coverage her case got on television, but according to the site she had a TV and was watching the news and telenovelas to keep up with her Spanish., Arias has a slew of magazines – Vanity Fair and even The Economist!
The murderer is slowly getting her security relaxed. After living in the maximum security prison for a few months, she no longer was in full restraints and also no longer had two guards escorting her to visitation time, the website claimed. Arias is now reportedly branching out into the general population, having meals in the Perryville "dining room."

Minion spin, all of it.....
Watching the news =Jodi is trying to keep tabs on all of Travis' 50 girlfriends she never knew about. She's obsessed with anagrams of Lisa, Alis, Lais, Sila..... and watches for them every chance she gets (which is 24/7). The motherload of Lisa-anagrams is in Spanish telenovellas: Jodi is so obsessed that she hasn't figured out that Spanish Lisas don't have blonde hair.
The Economist=Jodi got the free trial subscription. Economics for a grifter? Bwahahaha!
Relaxed security=no more pinky to ear chains in the shower; the guards got tired of her clanking them while she refused to bathe (on her refusal to bathe, see the Nurms); they hammered said chains into braces so they could restrain her mouth
No more 2 guards escorting her=she got assigned Big Bertha, the World Champion iron knuckle champion; one Big Bertha is 10 times the size of 2 ordinary guards.
Arias is branching out=The minions are anthropomorphizing a micro bonsai that groundwater water, dirt and a deathrow seed in the used chewing gum passed through the vent have conspired to sprout in JA's cell. "She (tree, Jodi, whoever) just can't help herself."
She gets to have dinner in the dining room=by tomorrow, Angela will have nabbed Jodi's commissary money, under threat of a "serves you right" stab. Go, Ange!
General population=a downgrade for narcissists. Narcissists don't like "general" or "population anything" unless they're all ME, ME, and ME.

 

[nwmouse]

I can only imagine all the blood she had on her, blood if only a small amount is difficult to remove, especially from under your nails. What a true monster!!!! I wonder if she ever has nightmares about it?

I do not believe the CMJA has any nightmares about the blood - she is a psychopath and probably relishes every moment of it almost in a ritualistic way. Normal people get a little surge of dopamines when we recall a happy holiday or think about buying a gift. People like CMJA get that dopamine surge by reliving cruelty and every memory of their pleasurable sadistic moments whenever they can.

 

[wasnt_me]

~Fairly Graphic Warning~

But wouldn't she have had to show up and barter the shower while streaked with blood? I'm relatively sure she cleaned up at Travis', I think some of the water at the sink came from her brushing her wet hair, I know Flores or JM mentioned that water had been run in the sink after blood got on it but I don't believe that to be the case, I think the water came first from Travis since he was also freshly out of the shower but most from her drippy hair. I also tend to think the back stabs came before he got to the sink, either in the shower or over by the toilet closet door.

Two options.

The sink beside the bloody sink in the twin basin is AWFULLY clean....

The sink in the downstairs bathroom had some watery blood on it, right?

Well, option 3, she got in the shower with Travis' body.

 

[wasnt_me]

That does sound very logical....

But how about this one? Jodi snooped on another text that said Mimi had turned Travis down, so Jodi assumes the nanny is going. And then later, Mimi says she'll come but on "friend" terms, but Jodi hasn't been able to get TA's accounts for a while so she doesn't know this little update.

Jodi could get that information from a lot of places.While reading the April texts, I noted that Travis starting asking his friends if they'd seen Mimi's facebook or myspace streams. He was excited at whatever she might have remarked about him. Jodi probably stalked the pages of Travis' friends and got info, saw pics, drew conclusions.

Additionally, the way I understood the Cancun deal, Chris negotiated for the ticket and 1/2 a room. Travis said he'd be up for it, except he might take Mimi. Chris then said they'd shuffle the men together and put Mimi with some women, and then they'd buy the plane ticket for the Nanny themselves. Travis said that only came up to $1,300, but he owed $2,000. Chris said it was fine and worth it.

ChrisHughes 04/17/08 12:51PM Inbox Incoming How about u Zion and mac in zions room, and kelsie, mimi and ryel in yours ChrisH

Something like what Chris is proposing had to happen anyway. I doubt Mimi would be in the same room with Travis. So if this was the arrangement, why wouldn't he tell Jodi?

 

[Steve44]

Jodi could get that information from a lot of places.While reading the April texts, I noted that Travis starting asking his friends if they'd seen Mimi's facebook or myspace streams. He was excited at whatever she might have remarked about him. Jodi probably stalked the pages of Travis' friends and got info, saw pics, drew conclusions.

Additionally, the way I understood the Cancun deal, Chris negotiated for the ticket and 1/2 a room. Travis said he'd be up for it, except he might take Mimi. Chris then said they'd shuffle the men together and put Mimi with some women, and then they'd buy the plane ticket for the Nanny themselves. Travis said that only came up to $1,300, but he owed $2,000. Chris said it was fine and worth it.

ChrisHughes 04/17/08 12:51PM Inbox Incoming How about u Zion and mac in zions room, and kelsie, mimi and ryel in yours ChrisH

Something like what Chris is proposing had to happen anyway. I doubt Mimi would be in the same room with Travis. So if this was the arrangement, why wouldn't he tell Jodi?

Reasons would be that he wasn't particularly interested in sharing his life with her at that point, in fact he wanted to move in the opposite direction. He may have told her, or he may have not. IMO this level of detail about their interactions will be never progress beyond the level of speculation.

That she did a fair amount of unwanted snooping into his personal life is certain, but to establish that as the case for a randomly chosen event based on the limited record of their interactions we have is not really possible.

What is known is that he continued to interact with her on some level to the very end, so he was likely sharing at least some personal information with her, but what that specifically was and what she only learned on her own through unwanted snooping is not really possible to determine unless it's self-evident in the nature of their interactions.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Courtesy of Minion Girl

 

[Caylee Advocate]

apparently from JAII site..probably already posted here but just in case
From Aug 2015

http://radaronline.com/photos/jodi-...r-church-self-defense-class-tv/photo/1187405/

Arias railed against the press coverage her case got on television, but according to the site she had a TV and was watching the news and telenovelas to keep up with her Spanish., Arias has a slew of magazines – Vanity Fair and even The Economist!
The murderer is slowly getting her security relaxed. After living in the maximum security prison for a few months, she no longer was in full restraints and also no longer had two guards escorting her to visitation time, the website claimed. Arias is now reportedly branching out into the general population, having meals in the Perryville "dining room."

Thanks TexMex, good to see you back!!!! I have lost pounds since your food pics, LMAO

 

[Steve44]

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Courtesy of Minion Girl

To add:

"Be voted 'Least Likely To Be Convicted Of Murder"

and

"Find Travis' Replacement, ASAP"

 

[Hope4More]

FYI...My one month BK subscription is up. I don't think I'll renew it until the May & June texts are posted there. Maybe other current subscribers will post more about April texts?


For me, April's texts cleared up when she left Mesa, when and how he first learned of the fake spy Michelle, and why he was angry with her about the drawing she left, etc.

I think the texts also make it perfectly clear that she began setting him up literally from the first day she left Mesa. Whether she was premeditating murder or "just" laying the groundwork to destroy his reputation is less clear, but it was one or the other.

One general impression of the texts overall is the sense I had of Travis feeling lost. He's spending less time on work, is hating the politics, even bows out of one of his weekly PPL calls abruptly, 5 minutes in.

He's stressed and says so, and that was unusual for him. He snaps even at Deanna, the only time I've seen that. He texts with women almost non-stop, but it doesn't mean anything to them or to him, really.

He circles around Mimi, and wow, his texts sound like they're written by a teenager with a crush. He asks multiple friends for advice about what to say to her, how to act, whether or not to give her flowers, where to take her on a date. When Mimi responds to him about anything he immediately texts multiple friends to tell them that news and to ask- what now??

He is so obviously and completely uncomfortable being with and around Mimi its ridiculous, and he's aware that he is, but he pushes on. Clock's ticking. He's acutely aware he's running out of time to get the marriage piece in place.

Meanwhile he's really beginning to feel genuine and deep regret about losing Lisa. Mimi would be the "perfect" Mormon wife he's supposed to marry, a small handful of other women he flirts with online make him feel alpha and hot and so are fun, the killer is who he falls back on when he's truly bored and lonely, and Lisa? Lisa he seems to put in a whole different category. I think it surprised him he couldn't move on from her, but there it was. He loved her.

The only truly new and surprising info (to me) was that the killer not only responded to his threat to call her out as a psycho, but that she actually told him about stalking him- sleeping on his couch and leaving before he got up, etc.

Wow again. Manipulation by her of whatever kind for whatever reason, but WTH he wasn't so seriously creeped out by it that he didn't cut off all contact with her at that point.

Maybe May's texts will clear up......something?

 

[Steve44]

FYI...My one month BK subscription is up. I don't think I'll renew it until the May & June texts are posted there. Maybe other current subscribers will post more about April texts?


For me, April's texts cleared up when she left Mesa, when and how he first learned of the fake spy Michelle, and why he was angry with her about the drawing she left, etc.

I think the texts also make it perfectly clear that she began setting him up literally from the first day she left Mesa. Whether she was premeditating murder or "just" laying the groundwork to destroy his reputation is less clear, but it was one or the other.

One general impression of the texts overall is the sense I had of Travis feeling lost. He's spending less time on work, is hating the politics, even bows out of one of his weekly PPL calls abruptly, 5 minutes in.

He's stressed and says so, and that was unusual for him. He snaps even at Deanna, the only time I've seen that. He texts with women almost non-stop, but it doesn't mean anything to them or to him, really.

He circles around Mimi, and wow, his texts sound like they're written by a teenager with a crush. He asks multiple friends for advice about what to say to her, how to act, whether or not to give her flowers, where to take her on a date. When Mimi responds to him about anything he immediately texts multiple friends to tell them that news and to ask- what now??

He is so obviously and completely uncomfortable being with and around Mimi its ridiculous, and he's aware that he is, but he pushes on. Clock's ticking. He's acutely aware he's running out of time to get the marriage piece in place.

Meanwhile he's really beginning to feel genuine and deep regret about losing Lisa. Mimi would be the "perfect" Mormon wife he's supposed to marry, a small handful of other women he flirts with online make him feel alpha and hot and do are fun, the killer is who he falls back on when he's truly bored and lonely, and Lisa? Lisa he seems to put in a whole different category. I think it surprised him he couldn't move on from her, but there it was. He loved her.

The only truly new and surprising info (to me) was that the killer not only responded to his threat to call her out as a psycho, but that she actually told him about stalking him- sleeping on his couch and leaving before he got up, etc.

Wow again. Manipulation by her of whatever kind for whatever reason, but WTH he wasn't so seriously creeped out by it that he didn't cut off all contact with her at that point.

Maybe May's texts will clear up......something?

I think on some level he liked the attention he was getting from her, even when it was negative. She reacted differently to him than any other woman, and responded enthusiastically to his flirts, and even followed through. I think he was testing his ability with women through her, and was somewhat confused and curious about the effect he apparently had on her, and was trying to fathom what it was exactly about him that had this effect. He did not attribute all of her reactions to her damaged psychology, but thought perhaps it was something innately within him that was the cause, and his curiosity and need to know himself kept him tied to her longer than it was actually safe to do.

 

[LinasK]

The more I thought about it, the more I've decided that Jodi got a shower in a long-haul truck in return for a "favor". Plenty of time for this when you're experienced.

Do you mean at a truck stop? Do they have showers in Semi- trucks???:thinking::waitasec:

 

[lewcch3]

FYI...My one month BK subscription is up. I don't think I'll renew it until the May & June texts are posted there. Maybe other current subscribers will post more about April texts?


For me, April's texts cleared up when she left Mesa, when and how he first learned of the fake spy Michelle, and why he was angry with her about the drawing she left, etc.

I think the texts also make it perfectly clear that she began setting him up literally from the first day she left Mesa. Whether she was premeditating murder or "just" laying the groundwork to destroy his reputation is less clear, but it was one or the other.

One general impression of the texts overall is the sense I had of Travis feeling lost. He's spending less time on work, is hating the politics, even bows out of one of his weekly PPL calls abruptly, 5 minutes in.

He's stressed and says so, and that was unusual for him. He snaps even at Deanna, the only time I've seen that. He texts with women almost non-stop, but it doesn't mean anything to them or to him, really.

He circles around Mimi, and wow, his texts sound like they're written by a teenager with a crush. He asks multiple friends for advice about what to say to her, how to act, whether or not to give her flowers, where to take her on a date. When Mimi responds to him about anything he immediately texts multiple friends to tell them that news and to ask- what now??

He is so obviously and completely uncomfortable being with and around Mimi its ridiculous, and he's aware that he is, but he pushes on. Clock's ticking. He's acutely aware he's running out of time to get the marriage piece in place.

Meanwhile he's really beginning to feel genuine and deep regret about losing Lisa. Mimi would be the "perfect" Mormon wife he's supposed to marry, a small handful of other women he flirts with online make him feel alpha and hot and so are fun, the killer is who he falls back on when he's truly bored and lonely, and Lisa? Lisa he seems to put in a whole different category. I think it surprised him he couldn't move on from her, but there it was. He loved her.

The only truly new and surprising info (to me) was that the killer not only responded to his threat to call her out as a psycho, but that she actually told him about stalking him- sleeping on his couch and leaving before he got up, etc.

Wow again. Manipulation by her of whatever kind for whatever reason, but WTH he wasn't so seriously creeped out by it that he didn't cut off all contact with her at that point.

Maybe May's texts will clear up......something?

May & June texts are up!! Please renew your subscription - I love your analysis!!

ETA - False Alarm!!!! The member page shows texts through June but the link is not yet active!

Aww Shucks - egg on my face!!!

 

[LinasK]

apparently from JAII site..probably already posted here but just in case
From Aug 2015

http://radaronline.com/photos/jodi-...r-church-self-defense-class-tv/photo/1187405/

Arias railed against the press coverage her case got on television, but according to the site she had a TV and was watching the news and telenovelas to keep up with her Spanish., Arias has a slew of magazines – Vanity Fair and even The Economist!
The murderer is slowly getting her security relaxed. After living in the maximum security prison for a few months, she no longer was in full restraints and also no longer had two guards escorting her to visitation time, the website claimed. Arias is now reportedly branching out into the general population, having meals in the Perryville "dining room."

Boy what spin doctors!!! If that's what they consider luxury. Yeah, that's the real reason she's watching telenovellas if she even has access to a TV- to keep up her Spanish- the girl who wouldn't even admit to being Hispanic!!!:facepalm: And a fan and ice, oh my!!! Under the comments there is one idiot who is insisting that because a handrail in Travis's house wasn't tested, therefore he must've been alive after the timestamps, honest to god!!!
If they want luxury prison, they should see the Club Med conditions Heather Mack has in Bali.

 

[Hope4More]

May & June texts are up!! Please renew your subscription - I love your analysis!!

ETA - False Alarm!!!! The member page shows texts through June but the link is not yet active!

Aww Shucks - egg on my face!!!

No, if links are there now for May and June it means the texts are being uploaded.

Aargh. Just when I thought I'd escaped from the bunny hole.
Going to renew one last time for one last month....



ETA...could you please check/confirm there are now actual links for each month? Or does page still say.... coming soon? Thanks.