Shannan Gilbert's 23 Minute 911 Call

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This is Hackett's notes that he took - from his notebook.
"Tom - girl seen driving out."
what that means is that Tom witnessed Shannan in Pak's vehicle
driving out of Oak Beach.

When you leave Oak Beach you have to make a right turn and continue east on Ocean Parkway before you can turn around.

Shannan Gilbert's body was discovered in the marsh on the south side of Ocean Parkway between the entrance to Oak Beach and the exit for the Robert Moses Causeway.

Unless an illegal U-turn is made over the divider, anyone leaving Oak Beach would have to pass the location where Shannan Gilbert's body was eventually discovered.

Her body was discovered a few minutes drive east of Oak Beach, and Michael Pak would have had to pass this location that morning.

If he stated that he went back to Oak Beach after "searching" Ocean Parkway, it would presumably be to plant her belongings in the vicinity of Peter Hackett's house rather than continue his "search".
 
I wonder who Tom is.

May 3 - Tom told Alex to speak to Dr. Hackett when Alex went to Oak Beach to find Shannan.
Alex met Tom at the gate on May 3.

2) Michael Pak says he was searching for Shannan Gilbert while he drove ...... outside the complex along Ocean Parkway between the time Shannan ran from Gus Coletti's house and 6:00 AM.

This is a lie,.
Kolker lied about this in his book.
Pak was NEVER searching for Shannan outside complex.

Pak FOUND shannan, that's all I can tell u folks.
Kolker is a liar.
a fraud
 
May 3 - Tom told Alex to speak to Dr. Hackett when Alex went to Oak Beach to find Shannan.
Alex met Tom at the gate on May 3.



This is a lie,.
Kolker lied about this in his book.
Pak was NEVER searching for Shannan outside complex.

Pak FOUND shannan, that's all I can tell u folks.
Kolker is a liar.
a fraud

I assume you’re referring to Tom Canning.

Michael Pak not searching outside of Oak Beach gated community does not change the circumstances very much.

Please could you elaborate on “Michael Pak FOUND Shannon”. Did he find her alive at Peter Hackett’s house while searching, or do you mean he found her already deceased?

What do you believe happened to Shannon Gilbert that evening?
 
I wonder who Tom is.

I assume you’re referring to Tom Canning.

So u know who Tom is. ok.

elaborate on “ Pak FOUND Shannon”. Did he find her alive at BARBARA BRENNANS house while searching [he wasnt searching, stop asking stupid questions] Look - who is Lucky Luciano? (who was?)
He was prosecuted for prostitution just under 100 years ago. PROSTITUTION of all the brothels of New York.
Prostitution is organized crime - Pak can NOT LEAVE a girl in a gated community. CAN NOT He had to answer to his mafia boss. DUH

What do you believe happened to Shannon Gilbert that evening?


According to prosecutors, Spota and McPartland were aware of the beating of Chris Loeb and used their positions of power to thwart a federal investigation into Burke’s actions of beating Chris Loeb.

Spota and McPartland used their positions of power to thwart a federal investigation into Shannan Gilbert. End of statement
 
According to prosecutors, Spota and McPartland were aware of the beating of Chris Loeb and used their positions of power to thwart a federal investigation into Burke’s actions of beating Chris Loeb.

Spota and McPartland used their positions of power to thwart a federal investigation into Shannan Gilbert. End of statement

You seem to have access to a lot of good information about the case, and I would like to be as privy as you, but I only have access to information that is available to the public, or inside information people like yourself provide on here, and I thank you for what you have provided so far regarding this case.

Most of us that are on here are only interested in seeing this case solved and justice for Shannan Gilbert and the other victims. We research, gather and organize information, develop theories and try to have intelligent discussions with other like minded people. Comments like, “stop asking stupid questions” or “DUH” are counterproductive.

If you are interested in seeing the case solved and justice being served, and want to have an intelligent conversation about the case, then tell us what you think based on the information that you have, instead of just doling out particles of information and expecting everyone to know what it means without more input.

From what I gathered from your posts so far is that you have access to some very thorough information about the case, and your theory is, and please correct me if I’m wrong, Thomas Spota and James Burke are complicit in the death of Shannan Gilbert and the other victims, along with Michael Pak, and Shannan Gilbert and Michael Pak are part of a mafia run prostitution ring that has ties with Suffolk County Law Enforcement.

I’ve posted my theory. I’m not saying that it is correct, but it seems logical based on the information I’ve been able to gather and organize, and hope for more feedback and discussion regarding it. I’m open to other people’s theories as well.
 
Judge sets sentencing date for former Suffolk DA, top aide | Newsday

Last sentence in article - is
"According to prosecutors, Spota and McPartland were aware of the beating and used their positions of power to thwart a federal investigation into Burke’s actions."

They also shut down the gilgo investigation, that's no secret.

Everything I posted is public information, taken from the case file, such as Hackett's notes from his notebook.
Prostitution IS organized crime. Lucky Luciano was prosecuted for prostitution in Manhattan almost
100 years ago. He organized the crime of prostitution, and that's that.
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Everything I've posted is public information, including, but not limited to Kolker lieing in his book.
 
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This is Hackett's notes that he took - from his notebook.
"Tom - girl seen driving out."
what that means is that Tom witnessed Shannan in Pak's vehicle
driving out of Oak Beach.

Who is Tom?
 
Judge sets sentencing date for former Suffolk DA, top aide | Newsday

Last sentence in article - is

"According to prosecutors, Spota and McPartland were aware of the beating and used their positions of power to thwart a federal investigation into Burke’s actions."

They also shut down the Gilgo investigation, that's no secret.

Agreed. But how does this further your theory regarding Shannan Gilbert?

Everything I posted is public information, taken from the case file, such as Hackett's notes from his notebook.

I will definitely search more diligently for the information in the case file.

Prostitution IS organized crime. Lucky Luciano was prosecuted for prostitution in Manhattan almost
100 years ago. He organized the crime of prostitution, and that's that.

Lucky Luciano may have organized the crime of prostitution in Manhattan almost 100 years ago, but that doesn't mean that everyone involved in escort services is associated with organized crime. Shannan Gilbert and the Gilgo Beach 4 advertised on craigslist and seem more like freelancers.

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Agreed. But how does this further your theory regarding Shannan Gilbert?



I will definitely search more diligently for the information in the case file.



Lucky Luciano may have organized the crime of prostitution in Manhattan almost 100 years ago, but that doesn't mean that everyone involved in escort services is associated with organized crime. Shannan Gilbert and the Gilgo Beach 4 advertised on craigslist and seem more like freelancers.
White Rabbit- You may know this already (I didn’t so I looked up). In NYS ebts are generally not public information. However, they sometimes will be released publicly—or certain parts of them will be—if one of the parties (in this case, Brewer) is involved in a separate litigation case that may be related to certain claims/allegations made in the ebt.
 
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White Rabbit- You may know this already (I didn’t so I looked up). In NYS ebts are generally not public information. However, they sometimes will be released publicly—or certain parts of them will be—if one of the parties (in this case, Brewer) is involved in a separate litigation case that may be related to certain claims/allegations made in the ebt.

Thank you Sleuth_Noob. I’m searching the Internet now for the information.
 
Further to my theory:

<modsnip: Reddit is not an approved source>

Source:


Drug interactions with benzodiazepines:

Important: Many drug interactions can occur with benzodiazepines; therefore, a drug interaction screen completed by a healthcare provider is an important step each time a new drug is added or discontinued in any treatment regimen.

Traditional benzodiazepines can be associated with overdoses and fatal consequences when combined with alcohol, opioids, other sedatives, or illicit drugs. While it is rare that an overdose of benzodiazepines by itself would be fatal, when combined with other drugs that depress the central nervous system, the risk dramatically increases.

Examples of other drugs that may be additive to the central nervous system depression if combined with benzodiazepine include:
  • phenothiazines
  • opioids
  • barbiturates
  • monoamine oxidase (MAO) inhibitors
  • antidepressants
  • alcohol
  • illicit drugs like heroin (an opiate)
Concomitant use of benzodiazepines and opioids may result in profound sedation, respiratory depression, coma, and death.

Source:

Phenothiazines are a group of nitrogen and sulfur-containing heterocyclic compounds, labeled as the first-generation typical antipsychotic medications used for the treatment of schizophrenia, bipolar disorders, to control nausea and vomiting, and other psychotic disorders with delusional manifestations.

Source:

"Shannan Gilbert’s story is terrifying. Gilbert, 24, had struggled with depression after being diagnosed with bipolar disorder, CBS News reported."

Source:

"Mari said Dr. Hackett told her Shannan had left his house with her driver and that he was worried about her."
 
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... vice article in which the write up author, who takes great liberties with it's contents, seems to leave out Canning's quote while offering scalise's statement (lies) as fact.

"Canning told me after Sandy that Dr. Hackett sedated Shannan Gilbert," Scalise says. But Canning denies that Hackett had any contact with Shannan Gilbert after she rang Brennan's doorbell. "He's crazy," Canning says of Scalise.

Inside the Bizarre, Unsolved Case of the Long Island Serial Killer (vice.com)
 
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Mari Gilbert stated that Peter Hackett told her that Shannan Gilbert left his house with her driver Michael Pak.

This would suggest that Michael Pak is officially the last person to see Shannan Gilbert alive.

If this were the case then Michael Pak either has to state that Peter Hackett is lying or explain where Shannan Gilbert went after she left his company.

What is Michael Pak’s explanation?

Michael Pak Deposition in case Gilbert, Shannan, Estate of, vs. Hacket, Charles Peter, D.O.
 

white rabbit said
Mari Gilbert stated that Peter Hackett told her that Shannan Gilbert left his house with her driver Michael Pak.

This would suggest that Michael Pak is officially the last person to see Shannan Gilbert alive.

If this were the case then Michael Pak either has to state that Peter Hackett is lying or explain where Shannan Gilbert went after she left his company.

What is Michael Pak’s explanation?

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Further to my theory:

<modsnip: Reddit is not an approved source>

Source:


Drug interactions with benzodiazepines:

Important: Many drug interactions can occur with benzodiazepines; therefore, a drug interaction screen completed by a healthcare provider is an important step each time a new drug is added or discontinued in any treatment regimen.

Traditional benzodiazepines can be associated with overdoses and fatal consequences when combined with alcohol, opioids, other sedatives, or illicit drugs. While it is rare that an overdose of benzodiazepines by itself would be fatal, when combined with other drugs that depress the central nervous system, the risk dramatically increases.

Examples of other drugs that may be additive to the central nervous system depression if combined with benzodiazepine include:
  • phenothiazines
  • opioids
  • barbiturates
  • monoamine oxidase (MAO) inhibitors
  • antidepressants
  • alcohol
  • illicit drugs like heroin (an opiate)
Concomitant use of benzodiazepines and opioids may result in profound sedation, respiratory depression, coma, and death.

Source:

Phenothiazines are a group of nitrogen and sulfur-containing heterocyclic compounds, labeled as the first-generation typical antipsychotic medications used for the treatment of schizophrenia, bipolar disorders, to control nausea and vomiting, and other psychotic disorders with delusional manifestations.

Source:

"Shannan Gilbert’s story is terrifying. Gilbert, 24, had struggled with depression after being diagnosed with bipolar disorder, CBS News reported."

Source:

"Mari said Dr. Hackett told her Shannan had left his house with her driver and that he was worried about her."


Further to my theory:

New Source:

"In the midst of the exchange between Gustav and Michael, Shannan had run to the home of Barbara Brennan and pounded on the front door for assistance. Fearing for her own safety, Brennan refused to acknowledge the knocking and called her next-door door neighbor, Tom Canning, to alert him to the situation. He quickly looked went outside to check on the commotion, but Shannan had already fled across the street to the home of Dr. Peter Hackett. From this point onward, Shannan was never seen alive again.

Two days after Shannan’s disappearance, her mother Mari Gilbert received an unexpected telephone call from Dr. Peter Hackett. He asked if Shannan was safe and feeling better but Mari hadn’t any knowledge that anything was amiss. She went on to ask how he acquired her phone number and he mentioned that it was policy to have a patient’s contact information. Perplexed by the response, Mari asked why he was distributing medicine in the first place. As the conversation continued, he allegedly stated he ran a halfway-home for women in dire need and explained the events that transpiredproviding medication for Shannan to help calm her nerves (the type of medicine is unclear but it’s presumed to be a benzodiazepine).

With Mari and the rest of Shannan’s family learning of her distress and unaware of her whereabouts, they filed a missing person’s report. Mari relayed the information she received from Hackett’s phone call to the investigators and once media coverage began swarming in, Dr. Peter Hackett was bombarded by several reports about the conversation with Mari. He proceeded to deny all allegations of a phone call ever happening on live television. Shortly thereafter, phone records were obtained and released publicly, proving Hackett’s deception. He went on to recant his prior statements but remained adamant about never mentioning anything relating to halfway-homes or treating Shannan Gilbert with an unknown substance drug(s)."

Source:

Drug interactions with benzodiazepines:

Important: Many drug interactions can occur with benzodiazepines; therefore, a drug interaction screen completed by a healthcare provider is an important step each time a new drug is added or discontinued in any treatment regimen.

Traditional benzodiazepines can be associated with overdoses and fatal consequences when combined with alcohol, opioids, other sedatives, or illicit drugs. While it is rare that an overdose of benzodiazepines by itself would be fatal, when combined with other drugs that depress the central nervous system, the risk dramatically increases.

Examples of other drugs that may be additive to the central nervous system depression if combined with benzodiazepine include:
  • phenothiazines
  • opioids
  • barbiturates
  • monoamine oxidase (MAO) inhibitors
  • antidepressants
  • alcohol
  • illicit drugs like heroin (an opiate)
Concomitant use of benzodiazepines and opioids may result in profound sedation, respiratory depression, coma, and death.

Source:

Phenothiazines are a group of nitrogen and sulfur-containing heterocyclic compounds, labeled as the first-generation typical antipsychotic medications used for the treatment of schizophrenia, bipolar disorders, to control nausea and vomiting, and other psychotic disorders with delusional manifestations.

Source:

"Shannan Gilbert’s story is terrifying. Gilbert, 24, had struggled with depression after being diagnosed with bipolar disorder, CBS News reported."

Source:

"Mari said Dr. Hackett told her Shannan had left his house with her driver and that he was worried about her."
 
Further to my theory:

New Source:


With Mari and the rest of Shannan’s family learning of her distress and unaware of her whereabouts, they filed a missing person’s report. Mari relayed the information she received from Hackett’s phone call to the investigators and once media coverage began swarming in, Dr. Peter Hackett was bombarded by several reports about the conversation with Mari. He proceeded to deny all allegations of a phone call ever happening on live television. Shortly thereafter, phone records were obtained and released publicly, proving Hackett’s deception. He went on to recant his prior statements but remained adamant about never mentioning anything relating to halfway-homes or treating Shannan Gilbert with an unknown substance drug(s)."

So what is inconceivable is, Hackett is on the phone records of Mari Gilbert, so why did it take so long
for the truth to come out that Hackett, did indeed, call Mari Gilbert. He lied but did he lie in his ebt?
if so, he can go to jail just like Ghislaine Maxwell.
 
Source:

"...one individual who claims he overheard, from his car as he drove past the Hackett residence, Dr. Hackett flailing against the siding of the house and “whaling” [sic] to his wife that “he couldn’t believe the situation he had put the family in” and that “his intention was to help SG – not to kill her.”"

I believe that Peter Hackett was honestly trying to help Shannan Gilbert, and that it was not his intention to accidently kill her. I believe he made a mistake, and that instead of trying to treat her with medication, without any idea of her medical history or toxicology, he should have called for an ambulance, and saved himself a lot of grief.

Consider that Michael Pak could've either taken her back to Peter Hackett's house, contacted EMS or taken her to the hospital. I believe he chose to dump her body and wash his hands of the situation instead, and that this decision was intentional to avoid any possible legal consequences that would result. I believe it would have been better for him to do what was right for Shannan Gilbert and call the lawyer.

Peter Hackett: Involuntary Manslaughter
Michael Pak: Voluntary Manslaughter
 
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