Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt2

[Bluenotes]

Per the Major, he indicated the following:

CONNOR: He left his house at 5:43 AM, and then shortly thereafter, started calling his house, realized that nobody was answering. And on his way back at around 6:50 is when he made the phone call to the Columbia Police Department.

GRACE: Major, why did he immediately start calling back to his home? He just left there. Why was he calling back at 5:45 AM?

CONNOR: He was making sure that the kids were getting up for school.

So you're right - the word immediately is pretty quick to judge, but we can conclude it was shortly thereafter - that's it. We don't have a time for the calls, pings, records, etc.

As always, thanks for your input!

Mel

The way that reads, he called 2 minutes after leaving. The police would obviously be able to tell this from cell phone records. I do wonder if this is the correct times, or if Connor just did not correct Grace?

 

[analytical]

I stand corrected ... "Connor would not say whether that suspect is Christopher Coleman, whose wife, Sheri, 31, and sons Garett, 11, and Gavin, 9, were found dead in their bedrooms last week."

The bed report came from another online source that was quoted in the first thread. The post report this a.m. is the first I've seen from a media source that says specifically where they were found. It does give some credibility to the report from last week that said they were all found in bed covered by sheets; but bedroom is vague. Could have been the floor as well.

thanks ..narrowed down to bedroom

 

[murdershewrote]

I thought last night on NG that the investigator said that the window is the basement, no sign of any force being used to open it.

also NG suggested that LE can check his cell phone records to see if he regularly calls his wife at that time every day to see if the kids are up, or if this was just something he did that day. That would be very easy to verify. I mean, who calls the cops right away when somebody doesn't answer the phone. He was on his way home, so why didn't he just wait until he got there to see if they were up or not. Answer: he didn't want to go into the house and "find them", he wanted the cops to go in first, which I believe they did (correct me if I'm wrong on that).

 

[analytical]

When I heard the press conference with Connor, and saw the written reports of same, both use the word "targeted".

"Targeted" ..... for me this implies pretty loudly just what it says .. "TARGETED"

Now .... either the real killer is on high alert and hoping he doesn't get "fingered" ... but what if he heard "targeted" as I did?

What if he can't be found when the arrest warrant is issued?

Even for those who surely want to implicate CC, please consider this scenario ... there is no assurance the person won't "hit the road"

 

[SuziQ]

Another thought I have. Did the boys have their own rooms or shared a room? If they shared a room, you would think the other would wake up when one was being strangled.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Would a dvr float?

Maybe. But an can of spray paint sure would.

 

[Stella5]

Maybe. But an can of spray paint sure would.

Re: DVRs float. This was actually a trivia question at an American Cancer Society trivia night I went to recently in a topic (ala David Letterman) "Sink or Float?"

The DVR actually sunk... and then it surfaced and floated. So JBall may be on target here. Spray cans definitely float; ask my 3 year old who threw one into the river while we were working on our boat.

 

[Melanie]

You know, the TOD would answer most of our questions. Don't they know we need this info????!!!!

Great post Suzi -- until then we're just playing cat n' mouse. But I do appreciate all the info flowing in -- keeps the brain moving

Hugz,

Mel

 

[milopedes]

The way that reads, he called 2 minutes after leaving. The police would obviously be able to tell this from cell phone records. I do wonder if this is the correct times, or if Connor just did not correct Grace?

C'mon, it is NG we are talking about here. She has already tried and convicted him in her mind too. She was, IMO, overexaggerating for effect . . .

Leave house at 5:43 a.m. NG: "Why did he need to call at 5:45 a.m.?"

 

[analytical]

Re: DVRs float. This was actually a trivia question at an American Cancer Society trivia night I went to recently in a topic (ala David Letterman) "Sink or Float?"

The DVR actually sunk... and then it surfaced and floated. So JBall may be on target here. Spray cans definitely float; ask my 3 year old who threw one into the river while we were working on our boat.

HAHA... I would think a DVR disc would float as well and thought of Letterman's many crazy "experiments" over the years.

 

[analytical]

C'mon, it is NG we are talking about here. She has already tried and convicted him in her mind too. She was, IMO, overexaggerating for effect . . .

Leave house at 5:43 a.m. NG: "Why did he need to call at 5:45 a.m.?"

NG always exaggerates .. I don't watch her... for many reasons.

 

[milopedes]

I thought last night on NG that the investigator said that the window is the basement, no sign of any force being used to open it.

also NG suggested that LE can check his cell phone records to see if he regularly calls his wife at that time every day to see if the kids are up, or if this was just something he did that day. That would be very easy to verify. I mean, who calls the cops right away when somebody doesn't answer the phone. He was on his way home, so why didn't he just wait until he got there to see if they were up or not. Answer: he didn't want to go into the house and "find them", he wanted the cops to go in first, which I believe they did (correct me if I'm wrong on that).

OK, I'll tell you who - someone whose family has been receiving threats, of some type, and his or her family cannot be reached at home. I'd call the police too if in a similar situation.

Someone will probably counter with "Well, if his family was receiving threats he should have never left the home." Seriously? This was ongoing for 6 months or so, and you can't simply hide away in your home forever. If the threats were real, he or his family did the correct thing by reporting it to the police. And, he even went as far as to install equipment at his home.

 

[milopedes]

NG always exaggerates .. I don't watch her... for many reasons.

I like her, and do occasionally watch her show, but you have to do so with a "shaker of salt".

 

[Melanie]

C'mon, it is NG we are talking about here. She has already tried and convicted him in her mind too. She was, IMO, overexaggerating for effect . . .

Leave house at 5:43 a.m. NG: "Why did he need to call at 5:45 a.m.?"

The only thing we can confirm at this time is he called shortly thereafter. I love NG, but sometimes you have to take her with a grain of salt. She still talks about a missing Caylee, even after she's passed. She introduces the baby killer momma of Emma Barker as beautiful. Yes, there are times I want to reach through the tele and say ""HEY, that's so not true".

These are what I call "nancyism's" and I try to pay no mind. Those who watch her daily know what I'm talking about

MOO

Mel

 

[southernillinoisman]

I have made some calls to LE here in southern Illinois that I know and am waiting to hear what they're hearing. They were going to try to get a feel for things.

Also, my identity can't be revealed through my profile can they? I think I'm going to go back and edit my post from last night talking about my background. Just to be safe.

 

[Bluenotes]

C'mon, it is NG we are talking about here. She has already tried and convicted him in her mind too. She was, IMO, overexaggerating for effect . . .

Leave house at 5:43 a.m. NG: "Why did he need to call at 5:45 a.m.?"

I have no idea who she is.

 

[analytical]

OK, I'll tell you who - someone whose family has been receiving threats, of some type, and his or her family cannot be reached at home. I'd call the police too if in a similar situation.

Someone will probably counter with "Well, if his family was receiving threats he should have never left the home." Seriously? This was ongoing for 6 months or so, and you can't simply hide away in your home forever. If the threats were real, he or his family did the correct thing by reporting it to the police. And, he even went as far as to install equipment at his home.

Exactly, milopedes .... surely they lived with a cloud of fear over them .. it's been reported Sheri had told the neighbors she was scared because of the threats.

But the Colemans had no idea if the threats were real nor did they have a crystal ball to predict the future.

Since the details of the threats have not been released, it's hard to know what the context of the threats were.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

When I heard the press conference with Connor, and saw the written reports of same, both use the word "targeted".

"Targeted" ..... for me this implies pretty loudly just what it says .. "TARGETED"

Now .... either the real killer is on high alert and hoping he doesn't get "fingered" ... but what if he heard "targeted" as I did.

What if he can't be found when the arrest warrant is issued.

Even for those who surely want to implicate CC, please consider this scenario ... there is no assurance the person won't "hit the road"

If Chris set up an elaborate scheme of threatening letters for six months prior to the murders of his family in which the threats were to culminate...he would be "targeting" his family for a specific purpose. Even if the threats are not related (which I doubt because of the threats left on the wall or walls as Connor put it on NG last night), if Coleman murdered his wife and children in a rage without much premeditation...they would still have been considered his "targets".

 

[Stella5]

I have made some calls to LE here in southern Illinois that I know and am waiting to hear what they're hearing. They were going to try to get a feel for things.

Also, my identity can't be revealed through my profile can they? I think I'm going to go back and edit my post from last night talking about my background. Just to be safe.

Nope, you're incognito. We have no clue who you are

Waiting to hear what you find out. I found out somethings through a local MO LE, that haven't been put out there yet and IMO are strictly rumor right now, but would make sense to motive. Time will tell.

 

[SleuthyMama]

You're right - I'd be angry too. It's obvious that family and friends are reading this highly respected message board (GO SLEUTHERS)!

But what bothers me most...is if in fact this is true, why is the family member releasing evidence HERE? I know if the supposed killer contacted the family after the fact, that LE would keep that close to their vest. But what if it's CC? And it makes no sense that the threats were only against S and the boys? What on earth did she do to warrant being murdered?

I haven't heard she was having the affair. I haven't heard that she was working for multi-million conglomorate with ties in God knows what (no pun intended).

Is the writer actually insinuating HER family put a hit out on her?

I'm beyond baffled --

mgardner-perhaps the way I quoted it led you to believe those statements were made here at WS...if so, I apologize. They were made in the comment section of one of the newspaper articles, I believe. But I agree with the gist of your post. I took from it the poster was suggesting that Sheri's family had mob ties and that because of that Sheri and the kids could have been killed, not that her own family necessarily put a hit out. So that made me think the person posting was someone close the perp's side and was already trying to throw some defense ideas out into the water to see if they would float.

Guess what? They sink. And fast.