Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt9

[Wrinkles]

Howdy Reannan,

Good to see you! And I don't think you are alone on the following... One of our WS'rs wrote a few weeks ago, as if they had insider info on just what was known, that eventually we would be seeing just how stupid this whole plan was...

Is it just me, or does anyone else think CC needs to be nominated for the Darwin Award for stupid criminals. The more we learn about the facts of this case, the more ridiculous it becomes for him to have possibly had a thought that he would get away with this crime. It's ridiculous!!!

IMO, CC was obviously blinded (actually had his mind numbed) by seduction and lust on numerous levels, not to mention "relief from adult responsibility." All of his energy was being poured into his nether parts, there wasn't anything left for rationale.

There you go defense, it is the "nether part energy" defense, his brain synapses were disrupted because his energy was flowing into the nether world.

 

[who knew?]

Correct me if I'm wrong......:waitasec:.........but aren't all marital assets frozen in the case of death until the estate is settled? I realize that CC is not dead (he's as good as dead IMO), but he's awaiting trial and his assets are frozen per court order for now, aren't they? I thought it was the same as in bankruptcy - all creditors have to wait until the court settles the issues.

 

[Bluenotes]

Does that remind you of "there are none so blind as those who cannot see"?

It works both ways here .... but I've never been one to rush to judgment.

I have not rushed to judgment, I did not believe CC killed his family until all of the evidence started coming out. I have actually met the man, and my wife knew both he and SC. Do you? Do you even live in the area? I have nothing to gain by CC being convicted. If you or anyone else can provide anything at all to make me think CC did not kill his family, I'm willing to listen...so far I've heard nothing.

Here is what we have been presented:
motive
TOD
neighbor's camera showing no one but CC entering or leaving
"opportunity" and threats on his pc
straight to the bathroom at Golds
no foot prints or grass clippings by the window
and on and on and on....

btw, I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

 

[Reannan]

There you go defense, it is the "nether part energy" defense, his brain synapses were disrupted because his energy was flowing into the nether world.

Wrinkles - no one has said it better than that!!! :clap: But again....how stupid??? Again....maybe there is something wrong with me, but I have NEVER, EVER felt so sexually repressed, or liberated, or stimulated, that I would be willing to murder my family!!!! I honestly, truly, try to get into the heads of these horrible scum of the earth in order to understand WTF happened to the perpetrator that caused them to kill. Cases like this just leave me completely baffled! :waitasec:

 

[pres101]

So we have a foreclosure notice...

Will be interesting when that first came, when the first payment was missed, will be interesting if there were foreclosure notices in CC's glove box (with the other assorted junk he put there like a file box meant only for CC). Would point to the "plan" ... IMO, don't make the payments, stock up the cash but...also...

The dude had a credit card with the mistress/upcoming new wife, they planned an August cruise (did they have to pay for that in advance, what did that cost?), then there was the cost of wedding invitations and the mistresses flights and well, might there have been an engagement ring purchase? Other jewelry?

Paying a high amount of credit card debt to cover the mistress and/or putting cash away (perhaps of the exact amount of the mortgage payment, under the ruse of getting a money order or ...) makes for an inability to pay a mortgage payment, even at 100K a year, and particularly when you don't want to do so...

Keep in mind also what MM is and does for a living, she is not a cheap date.

 

[daisy.faithfull]

I still can't stop thinking the threat letters were for another purpose, like getting her and the kids to move to a safe (far away) place so he could move TL closer. Not that it makes him any less a monster, but I still think he had not contemplated the murders before the eve of May 4th. The letters are the only piece of evidence that shows he might have planned the murders. Everything else shows he tried to cover it up after the fact.

Can anyone think of other evidence that might show he planned it before May 4th? JMO

:twocents:I understand where you are coming from, but the content of the letters themselves seem to point to the fact that CC wasn't just trying to scare SC he was also setting up a scapegoat.

Also, if the letters were completely for SC's benefit why was it necessary for him show the letters to others?

Purchasing the cans of paint.

I dunno, those are the first things that pop into my head, I'd better step aside and let more eloquent and experienced WSers answer you question. It is a good one.

 

[Fairy1]

I have not rushed to judgment, I did not believe CC killed his family until all of the evidence started coming out. I have actually met the man, and my wife knew both he and SC. Do you? Do you even live in the area? I have nothing to gain by CC being convicted. If you or anyone else can provide anything at all to make me think CC did not kill his family, I'm willing to listen...so far I've heard nothing.

Here is what we have been presented:
motive
TOD
neighbor's camera showing no one but CC entering or leaving
"opportunity" and threats on his pc
straight to the bathroom at Golds
no foot prints or grass clippings by the window
and on and on and on....

btw, I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

BBM - great points Bluenotes. If the defense dispels everything else (that we know of - so far) the pros will still have those points that I bolded above. I can't imagine a jury overlooking these very simple facts.

 

[who knew?]

I have not rushed to judgment, I did not believe CC killed his family until all of the evidence started coming out. I have actually met the man, and my wife knew both he and SC. Do you? Do you even live in the area? I have nothing to gain by CC being convicted. If you or anyone else can provide anything at all to make me think CC did not kill his family, I'm willing to listen...so far I've heard nothing.

Here is what we have been presented:
motive
TOD
neighbor's camera showing no one but CC entering or leaving
"opportunity" and threats on his pc
straight to the bathroom at Golds
no foot prints or grass clippings by the window
and on and on and on....

btw, I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

Even defense attorneys are calling this one a no-brainer and we know they NEVER rush to judgement - more like deny - deny - deny. Like you, I started out thinking it was not possible that CC did this. Now, there is not even a tiny little doubt he's guilty. The big thing for me is TOD. The moron put himself in the house at the TOD. And then there's all the other info the police have presented in court.

Oh, and WRINKLES!!! Tch...Tch...Tch - CC's nether parts? But then, of course, if we're unlucky, we'll all get to see them. After all, he was sexting - I'm sure LE has retrieved those pictures.uke:

 

[daisy.faithfull]

Does that remind you of "there are none so blind as those who cannot see"?

It works both ways here .... but I've never been one to rush to judgment.

Neither have I.

 

[pres101]

Does anybody have any evidence that CC is not guilty? Anything to even show reasonable doubt?

 

[who knew?]

Does anybody have any evidence that CC is not guilty? Anything to even show reasonable doubt?

Not I!!

 

[Bluenotes]

Does anybody have any evidence that CC is not guilty? Anything to even show reasonable doubt?

Not that I have seen or heard.

 

[Fairy1]

Does anybody have any evidence that CC is not guilty? Anything to even show reasonable doubt?

Me neither - but who knows what the defense is up to??? No really, who knows???

 

[daisy.faithfull]

Does anybody have any evidence that CC is not guilty? Anything to even show reasonable doubt?

Nope. Nada. Zip. Absolutely nothing. He doesn't have a prayer.

 

[daisy.faithfull]

Me neither - but who knows what the defense is up to??? No really, who knows???

They've probably reduced themselves to watching NG trolling for ideas and inspiration. And we know that's a dry well too. The only thing that is going to save them from looking like total *advertiser censored* is that there is no one out there that will be able to say that they could of gotten CC off, because that is just not possible.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Does anybody have any evidence that CC is not guilty? Anything to even show reasonable doubt?

No! From the time he walked out of his house at 5:43am until today, I have not seen anything which does not point directly to him as the murderer of Sheri, Gavin, and Garett. I have not seen or heard anything which does not point to him as having written the threatening notes either.

There is no reasonable doubt here. The defense is up against the wall on this one. He isn't OJ. It isn't "junk science" which will convict him or allow the defense to create doubt. However, there is a "smoking gun", a motive, and evidence of premeditation.

 

[johnrodz]

:twocents:I understand where you are coming from, but the content of the letters themselves seem to point to the fact that CC wasn't just trying to scare SC he was also setting up a scapegoat.

Also, if the letters were completely for SC's benefit why was it necessary for him show the letters to others?

Purchasing the cans of paint.

I dunno, those are the first things that pop into my head, I'd better step aside and let more eloquent and experienced WSers answer you question. It is a good one.

Letting JMM know about the letters would give reason his wife has moved out. He would be the caring husband that moved his wife and kids out of harm’s way. As for the paint, he had a receipt that was nearly a year old, if I remember correctly. I believe it was stated before that the paint was used to spray a target on the hay bales for archery. JMO

 

[Kimster]

Does anybody have any evidence that CC is not guilty? Anything to even show reasonable doubt?

The only thing I can think of that might be a question in my mind as a juror would be if there was no evidence on his body. Was there a dab of spray paint in his hair? Or did he wear a shower cap? What about scratches on his hands? I know he hit a gurney, though. That's about all I can think of and I really thought HARD AND LONG before answering this question. I can't think of anything viable, actually!!!

 

[Fairy1]

They've probably reduced themselves to watching NG trolling for ideas and inspiration. And we know that's a dry well too. The only thing that is going to save them from looking like total *advertiser censored* is that there is no one out there that will be able to say that they could of gotten CC off, because that is just not possible.

Or here!!! Wait, there's nothing of substance here for them...

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Originally Posted by analytical
Does that remind you of "there are none so blind as those who cannot see"?

It works both ways here .... but I've never been one to rush to judgment.

Yes, it does remind me of that quote. When people refuse to see what is layed out in front of them to openly judge, it means they are either wearing blinders or are in denial about a situation.

There is a single perp who happens to the be husband and father of the three who were murdered in their own house. It is no different than any other perp with mountains of evidence against him/her. The evidence only points one direction and the path it led LE down went straight to him.

LE did not "create" the evidence. LE did not line it up to make him look guilty. They only followed the path. The whole picture is there without any missing pieces. When LE finds the first piece of the murder puzzle, the rest will fall into place and takes LE to the truth.