SIDEBAR #14- Arias/Alexander forum

[dani]

There is much evidence he hasn't in many ways unfortunately. Many in the state who have had to deal with the system see through it. Others don't see anything wrong.
JA prob would do ok in max.security. She is a chameleon, she adapts. Prisoners have to in order to survive.

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In Max Security she will only have the cockroaches for companionship. Cockroaches have learned to "adapt" throughout the ages. I no longer compare Jodi to the gentle Chameleons, just to the filthy, disease infested Cockroaches.:fence:

 

[jojomonkey]

I'm a runner and it bugs me something huge about people running with music. They WILL tell you that they can hear everything but see how many don't hear someone come up next to them, or a car etc.

I have two scary stories
a) When I was about 13, I was doing speed walking (wasn't allowed to run) and I overtook a man who was walking along limping. I looked back and noted he was speeding up. I started to run, and he ran too. I ended up running into the garden of a friend's house and hiding behind a bush. They weren't home. The man came by about very quickly after but didn't see me.

b) I used to walk home from the gym via some music studios which didn't have any houses nearby. A car pulled up alongside me, and there was a young guy on his own. He asked me for some directions to the local tube station. I gave him some brief instructions and continued on my way. About 10 seconds later, he did a u-turn around a corner, got out of his car and started to approach me. I bolted! Fortunately there was a path and he couldn't drive through there.

Both of those things still make me feel ill. I could have not answered that second guy but it wasn't a dangerous situation because it was still daylight and there were still a few people/cars around. And I don't believe in ignoring all strangers.

On the Zimmerman front, I've watched a few of the jurors during selections while I've been doing other things. I've lost a bit of interest in the questioning because it's just about their media knowledge. Some jurors seem to really want to be selected IMO. There was one who said "she had lots of opinions" but then when challenged on what they were, she said they were not set. The Prosecutor seems good(?) and DT, well they are defense but at least there's no huffing or aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand. :floorlaugh: There was a WAT survey on whether Zimmerman was guilty or not. The split was close to 50/50 at the time but it's not 67/33 guilty/not. Re the judge, JSS very rarely ummed or aahed and took pauses instead from memory. This judge does um/ah a bit more Yes random point...

Does anyone know why there is no thread open for the Zimmerman trial?

 

[popsicle]

Out to clean my garage and need a new idea for a different Pandora channel to listen to loudly.

Okay all you DJs, What artist would be good for garage cleaning!? lol

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When you are done you can come clean mine. lol

Hey, you need to come follow the Levi Chavez trial. The def attorney is a crazy old coot and loves his cuss words like Nurmi loved the sex talk. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9566353&posted=1#post9566353

 

[Ricki]

My life has become quite boring without the trial in it.

I agree. I don't know if it is seriously morbid to have wanted to get up in the morning and sit at the computer and watch all day for months. I was just fascinated by it, by watching CM's mannerisms and listening to her BS. Then of course there was Juan.
Of course, there is plenty I do not miss...like Nurmi and Wilmont and objections and sidebars.

How is your sister doing Hopeful?

 

[Love Never Fails]

All transcripts are resealed (sidebars, in chambers meetings). Defense wants penalty phase put off until Jan 2014.

Hope the judge cracks the whip and tells the defense to get this case done! I wouldn't count on it. According to the media reports this morning, defense is saying the killer wasn't prepared for sentencing phase due to "threats" made on Patti and DB. UGH!!!

WTH??? And I mean WTH???
Who care what killer wants? Patti nd DB were never threatened, I am sure. So Jodi wants to stay in isolation? Nah, don't believe it. She is just hoping everyone will get over the fact that Travis is the true victim and then she will somehow walk. Dream on killer!

 

[popsicle]

I'm a runner and it bugs me something huge about people running with music. They WILL tell you that they can hear everything but see how many don't hear someone come up next to them, or a car etc.

I have two scary stories
a) When I was about 13, I was doing speed walking (wasn't allowed to run) and I overtook a man who was walking along limping. I looked back and noted he was speeding up. I started to run, and he ran too. I ended up running into the garden of a friend's house and hiding behind a bush. They weren't home. The man came by about very quickly after but didn't see me.

b) I used to walk home from the gym via some music studios which didn't have any houses nearby. A car pulled up alongside me, and there was a young guy on his own. He asked me for some directions to the local tube station. I gave him some brief instructions and continued on my way. About 10 seconds later, he did a u-turn around a corner, got out of his car and started to approach me. I bolted! Fortunately there was a path and he couldn't drive through there.

Both of those things still make me feel ill. I could have not answered that second guy but it wasn't a dangerous situation because it was still daylight and there were still a few people/cars around. And I don't believe in ignoring all strangers. Maybe the moral of the story is I shouldn't exercise

On the Zimmerman front, I've watched a few of the jurors during selections while I've been doing other things. I've lost a bit of interest in the questioning because it's just about their media knowledge. I wanted to see what kind of approach JM/the DT may take. Some jurors seem to really want to be selected IMO. There was one who said "she had lots of opinions" but then when challenged on what they were, she said they were not set.

The Prosecutor seems good(?) and DT, well they are defense but at least there's no huffing or aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand. :floorlaugh: There was a WAT survey on whether Zimmerman was guilty or not. The split was close to 50/50 at the time but it's not 67/33 guilty/not. Re the judge, JSS very rarely ummed or aahed and took pauses instead from memory. This judge does um/ah a bit more Yes random point... The jury are going to be sequestered btw. Last but not least Zimmerman has put on a lot of weight. I don't think it's a good thing because he looks more powerful. Perhaps the DT are hoping the jury will think he's not fit enough to fight/run.

Thank God you are safe. I have listened to the jury rejection err selection on/off also. I have come to the conclusion that if I am ever arrested for a crime I didn't do...I want a trial by judge! lol

 

[jojomonkey]

Good afternoon everyone!!! I cannot believe that the Defense wants to stall until
2014. They are trying their best to delay JA's move to the Big House.
I wonder if there is a delay, will JA stay in the cell 23 hours a day until then.
I get the next time we see JA, she will be so guant and feeble looking.

GMAFB. Oh that defense, they never cease to infuriate me.

I was thinking the other day I wonder how Jodi will look come July. Will she have put on any weight? Than I thought, of course not, she has to maintain that frail appearance to influence the next set of jurors.

I'm not confident they will get a unanimous decision this next round either. I think she will either get LWOP or it will be hung again. Just call me Debbie-Downer.

 

[marlap]

I hope you all don't mind if I jump in here to share a frightening experience I had once. I've had a few, but this one was especially freaky.

We lived in Tucson, AZ at this point in time. We actually lived for 10 years on the same street that the little girl--Isabel Celis, who went missing last year, lived on. BTW, my daughter went to the same High school as Isabel's dad back then. She and all of her HS friends say he was really an odd bird.

Anyway, back to my frightening experience. My daughter was in fourth grade back when this occurred. She would ride her bicycle to school as i jogged beside her. On this April morning, I had left the school area after seeing my daughter safely inside. I began my jog back to our home. At a certain point in time, I became aware of a car whose driver was moving slowly beside me. I was jogging on the sidewalk. Fortunately, I never jogged with headphones or anything when I was jogging out in public. At first I thought that perhaps the driver was going so slowly so they could read the street signs. But, as the car finally passed me by I made a mental note of it's color and make.

I jogged a bit farther past a small park and was coming down a hill when I saw that very car parked facing towards me--with nobody inside. I immediately realized I was in danger. I left the sidewalk and began running smack dab in the middle of the road. All the while, I was repeating the license plate number of the vehicle over and over in my head.

Well, the driver really was pissed off at me. He was waiting for me--naked, in the alley way just off the sidewalk. Had I not been aware of the car, I would have been grabbed right off the sidewalk as i was jogging. When he saw that I was running in the road he was screaming something at me--which I wasn't able to understand. I could hear the anger and rage in his voice though. I ran so fast and ran to a friends house. While there, she called 911 for me, and a police officer came to my home to meet with me. My husband had come to my neighbors house to see my safely home. I called him as soon as we knew the police were on their way.

Since I had memorized the license number the police were able to arrest the man. But, he was let go almost immediately. Since he hadn't actually hurt me, he could only be charged with indecent exposure.

I NEVER felt safe jogging again. Not out in public. I never knew his name or anything. The charge of indecent exposure back in 1982, was pretty much like getting a parking ticket.

To this day, I can recall the license plate number of that car. Whenever I see people jogging with their earbuds in their ears, I cringe! They have no idea how dangerous this is. You really do have to be aware of all that is going on around you--always!

Thanks for listening, and always be aware of your surroundings everyone!!!

PUNKIN!!!!

I'm so glad you were paying attention.

That story gave me the shivers...

I'm so sorry it ruined your jogging in public enjoyment.

 

[Bernina]

Perryville

http://notesfromaninsider.com/tag/perryville-state-prison/

:floorlaugh: Read it.........sorry, this woman does not have a clue about what she is talking about whether it's about the Lumley Unit at Perryville or Sheriff Joe's "worst jail" ....:floorlaugh: She sounds like a Prisoner's Rights Advocate.

 

[marlap]

I'm a runner and it bugs me something huge about people running with music. They WILL tell you that they can hear everything but see how many don't hear someone come up next to them, or a car etc.

I have two scary stories
a) When I was about 13, I was doing speed walking (wasn't allowed to run) and I overtook a man who was walking along limping. I looked back and noted he was speeding up. I started to run, and he ran too. I ended up running into the garden of a friend's house and hiding behind a bush. They weren't home. The man came by about very quickly after but didn't see me.

b) I used to walk home from the gym via some music studios which didn't have any houses nearby. A car pulled up alongside me, and there was a young guy on his own. He asked me for some directions to the local tube station. I gave him some brief instructions and continued on my way. About 10 seconds later, he did a u-turn around a corner, got out of his car and started to approach me. I bolted! Fortunately there was a path and he couldn't drive through there.

Both of those things still make me feel ill. I could have not answered that second guy but it wasn't a dangerous situation because it was still daylight and there were still a few people/cars around. And I don't believe in ignoring all strangers. Maybe the moral of the story is I shouldn't exercise

On the Zimmerman front, I've watched a few of the jurors during selections while I've been doing other things. I've lost a bit of interest in the questioning because it's just about their media knowledge. I wanted to see what kind of approach JM/the DT may take. Some jurors seem to really want to be selected IMO. There was one who said "she had lots of opinions" but then when challenged on what they were, she said they were not set.

The Prosecutor seems good(?) and DT, well they are defense but at least there's no huffing or aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand. :floorlaugh: There was a WAT survey on whether Zimmerman was guilty or not. The split was close to 50/50 at the time but it's not 67/33 guilty/not. Re the judge, JSS very rarely ummed or aahed and took pauses instead from memory. This judge does um/ah a bit more Yes random point... The jury are going to be sequestered btw. Last but not least Zimmerman has put on a lot of weight. I don't think it's a good thing because he looks more powerful. Perhaps the DT are hoping the jury will think he's not fit enough to fight/run.

Wow!! Glad you were able to hide and to get away.

Very Scary!

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Did everyone get a chance to watch the video of Juan's COMPLETE opening statement?
The only place I've seen it before is on HLN. It's here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b2i5_OYUMc0#t=2s

Just in case anyone is needing a Juan fix. lol

 

[geevee]

Good afternoon everyone!!! I cannot believe that the Defense wants to stall until
2014. They are trying their best to delay JA's move to the Big House.
I wonder if there is a delay, will JA stay in the cell 23 hours a day until then.
I bet the next time we see JA, she will be so guant and feeble looking.

I don't care for this long of a delay either but I can sort of understand, they know it's going to be most of a full trial and take two months or more and if they got started before Thanksgiving it would drag on with all the holiday breaks, we'd still be in court after New Years anyhow.

I too have been wondering if she was on lock down still, can't really see the reason for it and N/W have probably requested the usual treatment of an unsentenced defendant for her by now (if she's still on 23/7). But we'll likely know by the way she looks in court next week.

With this kind of drag on, all of us can stick together here for many more months, there's an unseen benefit.

 

[4Jacy]

Does anyone know why there is no thread open for the Zimmerman trial?

There is one for Trayvon, but it is "No Discussion".

As much as I would love there to be an open tread for the Zimmerman trial, I certainly can understand why there is not, and probably won't be. This case is probably one of the biggest cases of the century. Whether we like it or not, it is definitely a racially divided case.

We receive WebSleuths for free, unless we feel responsible and kind enough to make a $35.00 contribution for no advertisings, or any other contribution you wish to make.

That being said, I think many, many moderators would have to be on the comment threads regarding this case 24/7. That is an awful lot to ask. Attorneys, I would assume, would have to be reviewing, due to any lawsuits incurred by posters comments/opinions.

This case is so highly heated, and I truly wanted to be in FL for it. Then better judgment overcame me, and I feel after the verdict, it might be a dangerous place to be.

 

[thefragile7393]

I don't care for this long of a delay either but I can sort of understand, they know it's going to be most of a full trial and take two months or more and if they got started before Thanksgiving it would drag on with all the holiday breaks, we'd still be in court after New Years anyhow.

I too have been wondering if she was on lock down still, can't really see the reason for it and N/W have probably requested the usual treatment of an unsentenced defendant for her by now (if she's still on 23/7). But we'll likely know by the way she looks in court next week.

With this kind of drag on, all of us can stick together here for many more months, there's an unseen benefit.

Penalty phase should only be 2-3 weeks. JSS can keep it the way it shoukd be by not allowing what she did in the criminal trial. There is not a need for them to.try and turn it into another criminal trial during this phase

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[GetSmart]

.I have seen questions and I am not sure if they have been answered ..even on HLN last nite someone asked WHY was Zimmerman trial only using 6 Jurors... and Double J did not answer it soooo Well I looked it up and apparently in FL if it is not a Capital Case they use 6 .... Just an FYI ..I did not know that

 

[Bernina]

Is Sheriff Joe an elected politician?

If so, enough said. Out here in Indiana we like his policies and he has had to fight the Feds, which is no easy thing seeing how corrupt they are! But like I said, anyone who is an elected politican, well.....

If you live there, you would sure know better than I would. So I will take your word.

He's an elected official. If you check out his "experience" on Wikipedia, it speaks volumes. Some of his policies have been criticized, ie, illegal immigrants, but if you haven't actually been wired into the Border Patrol, DEA, etc., you wouldn't know that his is (and currently is no longer in place because of a judicial ruling) a very valid policy. There have been several "underlings" in his department who have resigned or been fired for serious infractions, and like any legal entity, you're going to have problems. Joe isn't perfect, but he does what he can.
Case in point: The evolution of tent city. The individual who brought this idea to Joe had aka's as long as your arm, with fake certifications, military experience, etc, etc. He ran the idea past Joe about putting the over run of convicted county inmates in army surplus tents. This individual, who was placed under Joe, eventually was having sex with female inmates and other things, was found out, and eventually hit up with identity theft. Something along the lines of the movie "Catch Me if You Can".
I know there an issue with child sex abuse cases and a back log or non-investigation. Maricopa County covers many city jurisdictions that have their own police forces. Many of these LE will drop their cases on MSCO and tell them the case is not in that city's LE area. This happens EVERYWHERE, more so in the last 10 years because of budget cuts in city LE. Arizona was hit very hard with the recession and extreme cuts to many state, county, and local government bodies. We experience it ALL the time up here, with Yavapai County vs the city depts. Some of the city LE won't even share info with the county LE. And they're on the same computer access!!!!!
:facepalm: It's money and politics.

 

[Bernina]

Out to clean my garage and need a new idea for a different Pandora channel to listen to loudly.

Okay all you DJs, What artist would be good for garage cleaning!? lol

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I listen to "Ink'd" on my Directv feed, kinda hard rock, Nirvana, Puddle of Mud, Nine Inch Nails, Sound Garden........good for construction, major cleaning jobs, doesn't put you to sleep, just makes you want to git r done! Listen to Pandora during my "free access" for the month:angel:

 

[Bernina]

All transcripts are resealed (sidebars, in chambers meetings). Defense wants penalty phase put off until Jan 2014.

Hope the judge cracks the whip and tells the defense to get this case done! I wouldn't count on it. According to the media reports this morning, defense is saying the killer wasn't prepared for sentencing phase due to "threats" made on Patti and DB. UGH!!!

:boohoo::boohoo::boohoo: Have you ever heard of such a whinny bunch of legal beagles? Patti put her face out there LONG before sentencing and DB had no problem with "Face Time" after he was no longer a witness in sentencing......oh, just cry me a river.......Now, what side is racking up all the $$$$$? Seriously, Nurmi could retire after this case with that $100 increase an hour he got a few years back defending this case, cripes he's pulling $250/hour!

 

[thefragile7393]

There is one for Trayvon, but it is "No Discussion".

As much as I would love there to be an open tread for the Zimmerman trial, I certainly can understand why there is not, and probably won't be. This case is probably one of the biggest cases of the century. Whether we like it or not, it is definitely a racially divided case.

We receive WebSleuths for free, unless we feel responsible and kind enough to make a $35.00 contribution for no advertisings, or any other contribution you wish to make.

That being said, I think many, many moderators would have to be on the comment threads regarding this case 24/7. That is an awful lot to ask. Attorneys, I would assume, would have to be reviewing, due to any lawsuits incurred by posters comments/opinions.

This case is so highly heated, and I truly wanted to be in FL for it. Then better judgment overcame me, and I feel after the verdict, it might be a dangerous place to be.

This isn't their first rodeo...they are used to ugly high profile cases and know how to protect themselves from lawsuit.
Buuut...this case brings out a lot of ugly in ppl that you never knew exisited. If they choose not.to have a thread those who want to discuss it will find somewhere to talk about it I am sure


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[Bernina]

I hope you all don't mind if I jump in here to share a frightening experience I had once. I've had a few, but this one was especially freaky.

We lived in Tucson, AZ at this point in time. We actually lived for 10 years on the same street that the little girl--Isabel Celis, who went missing last year, lived on. BTW, my daughter went to the same High school as Isabel's dad back then. She and all of her HS friends say he was really an odd bird.

Anyway, back to my frightening experience. My daughter was in fourth grade back when this occurred. She would ride her bicycle to school as i jogged beside her. On this April morning, I had left the school area after seeing my daughter safely inside. I began my jog back to our home. At a certain point in time, I became aware of a car whose driver was moving slowly beside me. I was jogging on the sidewalk. Fortunately, I never jogged with headphones or anything when I was jogging out in public. At first I thought that perhaps the driver was going so slowly so they could read the street signs. But, as the car finally passed me by I made a mental note of it's color and make.

I jogged a bit farther past a small park and was coming down a hill when I saw that very car parked facing towards me--with nobody inside. I immediately realized I was in danger. I left the sidewalk and began running smack dab in the middle of the road. All the while, I was repeating the license plate number of the vehicle over and over in my head.

Well, the driver really was pissed off at me. He was waiting for me--naked, in the alley way just off the sidewalk. Had I not been aware of the car, I would have been grabbed right off the sidewalk as i was jogging. When he saw that I was running in the road he was screaming something at me--which I wasn't able to understand. I could hear the anger and rage in his voice though. I ran so fast and ran to a friends house. While there, she called 911 for me, and a police officer came to my home to meet with me. My husband had come to my neighbors house to see my safely home. I called him as soon as we knew the police were on their way.

Since I had memorized the license number the police were able to arrest the man. But, he was let go almost immediately. Since he hadn't actually hurt me, he could only be charged with indecent exposure.

I NEVER felt safe jogging again. Not out in public. I never knew his name or anything. The charge of indecent exposure back in 1982, was pretty much like getting a parking ticket.

To this day, I can recall the license plate number of that car. Whenever I see people jogging with their earbuds in their ears, I cringe! They have no idea how dangerous this is. You really do have to be aware of all that is going on around you--always!

Thanks for listening, and always be aware of your surroundings everyone!!!

WOW!
BTW: Nothing more on Isabel Celis? That is such a strange case........I really don't think she is alive.