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I always loved, loved Christmas, until my son grew up and was out of the house. Our Christmas tree has gotten smaller over the years, we used to get a real one, now it's artificial. And, I have come very close to not putting ornaments on, only lights because I'm not in the spirit and it's too much trouble and no fun to do by myself. :facepalm: Then I end up doing it anyway at some point, though not as many ornaments as in the past.
I leave my Dept. 56 village pieces out in a pine hutch year around, it's too much trouble to put them away, I do change the little tiny trees around some through the seasons so it doesn't look just Christmasy all year 'round. I do need to put in more lights, as they've burned out.
What is it about perpetual empty nest syndrome and hating Christmas, lol.
Oh, plus my extended family is kind of a pain in the you-know-what...to the point I would really rather just disappear over the holidays. :hills:

Oh well, I might consider praying for some Christmas Spirit this year. :seeya:

BBM He who has not Christmas in his heart will never find it under a tree.---Roy L. Smith

Here's a test for Christmas spirit:
Only one in 10 people believe that society is more caring at Christmas than it was a generation ago, new research shows. But do you have the Christmas spirit?
Take the test here: http://www.theguardian.com/quiz/questions/0,,623717,00.html
 
Good morning, my princess :seeya:

How have you been?
 
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Neurotics build castles in the sky.
Psychotics live in them.
Psychiatrists collect the rent.

:floorlaugh:

I heard this a little differently (and right here at WS):

Neurotics build castles in the sky.
Psychopaths live in them.
And Cindy Anthony cleans them.

:floorlaugh:
 
I can't chat too much until later this morning. My co-worker is in now and she's really nosy. I don't like her much :stormingmad:.
 
omg speaking of bronchitis and pneumonia, literally after posting my post to M last night, I got a call from my husband who was at work. he was having trouble breathing, bad chest pain, nausea, coughing, etc. i told him to go to the ER immediately as he works close to one of the best hospitals in the country. he told me if he goes to the ER from work he'll have to see the city doctor when hes done and deal with all this paperwork for the city, so he agreed to drive home, it was like 10 30 at night and the kids were asleep so our neighbor/best friend came over and sat in the living room to make sure in case anything happened to them or they woke up someone was there.

so we go to the ER closest to us, which is not the best ER in the world, its actually horrible but we went there bc i wanted to be close to the kids in case something happened and i had to run home. they treated my husband like crap, wouldn't let me back in the room w/him. the triage nurse actually said to him verbatim "you are a big boy, you don't need your wife back here with you." so basically the dr looked at him for 5 mins and told him he has a cold and to use decongestants which he has been using for the past 3 weeks to no avail. he told dr this but dr wouldn't listen. (he was texting me all this the whole time he was back there). He repeatedly asked the nurses for me but they all said NO. so, as the triage nurse was leaving, i stopped her and asked her who i could complain to regarding the terrible care my husband was receiving. she was taken aback when i told her all of his symptoms and what my husband was texting me was going on back there. she said she would go back and talk to the dr. well, as she went back, they had already discharged my husband with "prescriptions" for all OTC meds he has already been taking for the last 3 weeks! my husband was so upset and frustrated. i told him we were going to the other hospital er (great great hospital, where my kids were born and part of the healthcare system that our primary physicians are through). I called our friend who was just working on job apps and said he could stay as long as we needed so we went to the other ER, got seen right away, chest x rays, EKG, the whole nine yards and he has walking pneumonia. Yea, I was furious at the first ER.

This morning i called the first ER and filed a complaint i am so furious. no one messes with my husband like that. i am still so upset at how incompetent some people are. Dr's have this thing called Press-Ganey scores which are very important to them and in some cases, their salaries are affected by them. I will now be calling that company and ask to take a survey on this particular dr that saw my husband at the first ER. I am soooooooo soooooo mad. I am NEVER one to complain. I know ER drs and nurses have a hard job, lots of patients, and I believe we were there right around a shift change bc it was 10 30 when we got to the first ER, but still. you don't just send away a man with chest pain and trouble breathing without so much as a simple EKG at the very least!

sorry just needed to vent!
 
I can't believe it, I thought I was the only one who did that, at the same age too. I feared I could be having signs of early Alzheimers... :floorlaugh:

LOL Well I am in good company then :seeya:
 
Update:

called the press-ganey company and they said i'd have to wait for a survey from the hospital which they are supposed to send but dont always send. she said if i don't get one, to write our complaint in writing and have it addressed to whoever the patient advocate is at the hospital. you can bet i will be following through on this!
 
I can't chat too much until later this morning. My co-worker is in now and she's really nosy. I don't like her much :stormingmad:.

Too bad I forgot it was National Grouch Day yesterday. You could have given Miss Nosy a card :facepalm:

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Fans of Grumpy Cat, Oscar the Grouch, and Andy Rooney, stand and cheer (or stand and kvetch, if that’s more your style): October 15 is National Grouch Day. And why not? Why shouldn’t curmudgeons have their day (they have their own society, apparently). After all, there’s International Day of Happiness and Happiness Happens Day. Well, grouchiness happens, too.
National Grouch Day seems to have originated with Sesame Street and Oscar, the crotchety muppet who lived in a trashcan...
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/10/15/born-grumpy-todays-national-grouch-day/
(nice picture of Grumpy Cat on website)

And you could have sung this song: :floorlaugh:

[video=youtube;q8IHMctrKCg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8IHMctrKCg[/video]
 
omg speaking of bronchitis and pneumonia, literally after posting my post to M last night, I got a call from my husband who was at work. he was having trouble breathing, bad chest pain, nausea, coughing, etc. i told him to go to the ER immediately as he works close to one of the best hospitals in the country. he told me if he goes to the ER from work he'll have to see the city doctor when hes done and deal with all this paperwork for the city, so he agreed to drive home, it was like 10 30 at night and the kids were asleep so our neighbor/best friend came over and sat in the living room to make sure in case anything happened to them or they woke up someone was there.

so we go to the ER closest to us, which is not the best ER in the world, its actually horrible but we went there bc i wanted to be close to the kids in case something happened and i had to run home. they treated my husband like crap, wouldn't let me back in the room w/him. the triage nurse actually said to him verbatim "you are a big boy, you don't need your wife back here with you." so basically the dr looked at him for 5 mins and told him he has a cold and to use decongestants which he has been using for the past 3 weeks to no avail. he told dr this but dr wouldn't listen. (he was texting me all this the whole time he was back there). He repeatedly asked the nurses for me but they all said NO. so, as the triage nurse was leaving, i stopped her and asked her who i could complain to regarding the terrible care my husband was receiving. she was taken aback when i told her all of his symptoms and what my husband was texting me was going on back there. she said she would go back and talk to the dr. well, as she went back, they had already discharged my husband with "prescriptions" for all OTC meds he has already been taking for the last 3 weeks! my husband was so upset and frustrated. i told him we were going to the other hospital er (great great hospital, where my kids were born and part of the healthcare system that our primary physicians are through). I called our friend who was just working on job apps and said he could stay as long as we needed so we went to the other ER, got seen right away, chest x rays, EKG, the whole nine yards and he has walking pneumonia. Yea, I was furious at the first ER.

This morning i called the first ER and filed a complaint i am so furious. no one messes with my husband like that. i am still so upset at how incompetent some people are. Dr's have this thing called Press-Ganey scores which are very important to them and in some cases, their salaries are affected by them. I will now be calling that company and ask to take a survey on this particular dr that saw my husband at the first ER. I am soooooooo soooooo mad. I am NEVER one to complain. I know ER drs and nurses have a hard job, lots of patients, and I believe we were there right around a shift change bc it was 10 30 when we got to the first ER, but still. you don't just send away a man with chest pain and trouble breathing without so much as a simple EKG at the very least!

sorry just needed to vent!

BBM :eek: Well she had some nerve. :stormingmad: I would report her, too. Never heard of an ER that wouldn't let a wife in the examining room.

Hope your husband gets well soon.
 
I heard this a little differently (and right here at WS):

Neurotics build castles in the sky.
Psychopaths live in them.
And Cindy Anthony cleans them.

:floorlaugh:

:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:
 
BBM :eek: Well she had some nerve. :stormingmad: I would report her, too. Never heard of an ER that wouldn't let a wife in the examining room.

Hope your husband gets well soon.

THIS! This is one of the reasons I hate hospitals, and why I'm so apprehensive about my surgery. When my mom got sick I was at the hospital to visit her on Friday (like I did every day). They had put her in the whirlpool tub to bath her, and her IV came out. I was holding her hand when they were trying to get it back in because they were hurting her so. I was sent from the room by the nurse, who said "she didn't need an audience". When I went back that evening the IV was still out, and my mom said they told her if she was good and ate she wouldn't have to have it back in. We all questioned how she was going to get her antibiotics and meds without it, but to no avail. When I went back the next morning (Saturday), she was disoriented and hostile. Not herself at all. The weekend staff couldn't tell me anything. All useless, every one of them. I demanded she have a doctor see her - none were available. After all it was Saturday, and they have better things to do. By Saturday evening her condition had deteriorated so badly that a nurse called me who had been responsible for her care earlier in the week, and she was furious. She stressed to me that it was NOT my mom's cancer that caused her downfall. She was going into septic shock because she wasn't receiving any antibiotics. We rushed to see her, and she had improved somewhat, but was still not right. We got a call around 1:00 a.m. Sunday to get to the hospital right away. Her condition was grim. At 4:00 a.m. they sent us home for a few hours sleep. At 7:00 a.m. they called and said "come now". By the time we got there she was gone.

I went to every length to have them held accountable, but came up against nothing but brick walls. The legal system wasn't interested, the media wasn't interested, and the internal medical care system obviously protects their own.

That is when I stopped going to doctors, and only visited walk in clinics when I was really sick. I have no faith in them. Needless to say I am terrified for my upcoming surgery. I hope I receive better care than my poor mom did. :(
 
BBM :eek: Well she had some nerve. :stormingmad: I would report her, too. Never heard of an ER that wouldn't let a wife in the examining room.

Hope your husband gets well soon.

oh i reported her too. the guy on the phone who was taking the complaint was like "what the heck" it was just so ridiculous i would laugh if i didn't still have steam coming out of my ears!
 
THIS! This is one of the reasons I hate hospitals, and why I'm so apprehensive about my surgery. When my mom got sick I was at the hospital to visit her on Friday (like I did every day). They had put her in the whirlpool tub to bath her, and her IV came out. I was holding her hand when they were trying to get it back in because they were hurting her so. I was sent from the room by the nurse, who said "she didn't need an audience". When I went back that evening the IV was still out, and my mom said they told her if she was good and ate she wouldn't have to have it back in. We all questioned how she was going to get her antibiotics and meds without it, but to no avail. When I went back the next morning (Saturday), she was disoriented and hostile. Not herself at all. The weekend staff couldn't tell me anything. All useless, every one of them. I demanded she have a doctor see her - none were available. After all it was Saturday, and they have better things to do. By Saturday evening her condition had deteriorated so badly that a nurse called me who had been responsible for her care earlier in the week, and she was furious. She stressed to me that it was NOT my mom's cancer that caused her downfall. She was going into septic shock because she wasn't receiving any antibiotics. We rushed to see her, and she had improved somewhat, but was still not right. We got a call around 1:00 a.m. Sunday to get to the hospital right away. Her condition was grim. At 4:00 a.m. they sent us home for a few hours sleep. At 7:00 a.m. they called and said "come now". By the time we got there she was gone.

I went to every length to have them held accountable, but came up against nothing but brick walls. The legal system wasn't interested, the media wasn't interested, and the internal medical care system obviously protects their own.

That is when I stopped going to doctors, and only visited walk in clinics when I was really sick. I have no faith in them. Needless to say I am terrified for my upcoming surgery. I hope I receive better care than my poor mom did. :(

So sorry your mother didn't have the care she needed.
Make sure you open your mouth when you think something is wrong or you don't feel right after your upcoming surgery is over. Scream if you need to- that will have the people responsible for you to come a running.
Remember this scene in terms Terms Of Endearment?
[video=youtube;plqzeUB9B-w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plqzeUB9B-w[/video]

Do that for yourself, my princess (and then say "thank-you" after- like her)
I'm praying for you everyday- even now- for serenity of your mind and everyone here will be thinking and praying for you, too on the day of your surgery. We will be there in, if not in body, but in spirit - holding your hand.
Let us know when you are suppose to go into the hospital and the time of your surgery- we, all, will pray especially hard at that time, for a good outcome for you. :blowkiss:
 
So sorry your mother didn't have the care she needed.
Make sure you open your mouth when you think something is wrong or you don't feel right after your upcoming surgery is over. Scream if you need to- that will have the people responsible for you to come a running.
Remember this scene in terms Terms Of Endearment?
Terms of Endearment (4/9) Movie CLIP - Emma's Pain Shot (1983) HD - YouTube

Do that for yourself, my princess (and then say "thank-you" after- like her)
I'm praying for you everyday- even now- for serenity of your mind and everyone here will be thinking and praying for you, too on the day of your surgery. We will be there in, if not in body, but in spirit - holding your hand.
Let us know when you are suppose to go into the hospital and the time of your surgery- we, all, will pray especially hard at that time, for a good outcome for you. :blowkiss:

My surgery is October 30th at 10:30 a.m. CST. I know my "sisters" here at WS will be thinking of me. :grouphug:

ETA: I LOVE Terms of Endearment. It reminds me very much of the relationship I had with my mom LoL. We loved each other, but boy could we fight. :lol:
 
Want to post some tweets in case one or more get deleted:



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Somebody taunted the tweeter about art being traced and got a reply back...lol .

Board was busy this morning...I need to go read the posts.
 
THIS! This is one of the reasons I hate hospitals, and why I'm so apprehensive about my surgery. When my mom got sick I was at the hospital to visit her on Friday (like I did every day). They had put her in the whirlpool tub to bath her, and her IV came out. I was holding her hand when they were trying to get it back in because they were hurting her so. I was sent from the room by the nurse, who said "she didn't need an audience". When I went back that evening the IV was still out, and my mom said they told her if she was good and ate she wouldn't have to have it back in. We all questioned how she was going to get her antibiotics and meds without it, but to no avail. When I went back the next morning (Saturday), she was disoriented and hostile. Not herself at all. The weekend staff couldn't tell me anything. All useless, every one of them. I demanded she have a doctor see her - none were available. After all it was Saturday, and they have better things to do. By Saturday evening her condition had deteriorated so badly that a nurse called me who had been responsible for her care earlier in the week, and she was furious. She stressed to me that it was NOT my mom's cancer that caused her downfall. She was going into septic shock because she wasn't receiving any antibiotics. We rushed to see her, and she had improved somewhat, but was still not right. We got a call around 1:00 a.m. Sunday to get to the hospital right away. Her condition was grim. At 4:00 a.m. they sent us home for a few hours sleep. At 7:00 a.m. they called and said "come now". By the time we got there she was gone.

I went to every length to have them held accountable, but came up against nothing but brick walls. The legal system wasn't interested, the media wasn't interested, and the internal medical care system obviously protects their own.

That is when I stopped going to doctors, and only visited walk in clinics when I was really sick. I have no faith in them. Needless to say I am terrified for my upcoming surgery. I hope I receive better care than my poor mom did. :(

I am so sorry. Your mother's death was completely preventable.

This does shed a whole new light on you and your attitude towards your upcoming surgery.
 
I hate hospitals too. When my FIL was very very sick from a chemo treatment and admitted to the
hospital, I had to track down nurses to get him things he needed and assistance. It was 5 days
of total frustration and the nurses all telling me that they were too busy. I know they have a lot
to do but damn.

WHen my daughter broke her foot and was admitted to the hospital, the ER nurse put the IV for
the pain medication in wrong. She kept complaining about the pain and they did nothing. Finally
when she was near discharge, a nurse said 'this IV was not put in your arm correctly, you
probably were not getting much pain relief'. Another thing, she had a fall risk hospital bracelet
on her wrist and sign on her door. She needed help to go to the bathroom and the nurse or
orderly just gave her a bed pan and left.She could not wrestle the bed pan by herself with
her leg in a sling.

When my son was a baby and had an operation, the nurse or nurse helper did not know how
to put on the oxygen mask. He was turning blue and she kept saying, I am not sure how to
do this.

On the good side of hospitals, I have only been a patient 3 times - two for births and one
for eye surgery and I had good experiences.

Princess, We will have you in our thoughts and will be here for you.

I have been so negative lately, I am so sorry
 
Hi everyone!! :seeya:

I'm feeling a whole lot better after visiting my massage lady, after my fall on Sunday!! She can work miracles!!

M, hope you feel better, and Molly - your husband too!!!

I definitely have the Christmas spirit!! No kids here, so no empty nest syndrome! I put up a tree every year and put up the lights!! Quite a few years earlier we would go out and chop our tree down, but now it's too difficult for the Huz, so I try and get one that's not too expensive!!

So, a "closed" hearing tomorrow or Friday??
 
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