SIDEBAR #25- Arias/Alexander forum

[geevee]

JA had a hearing this morning, here are the relevant tweets (Part 1):

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h
#jodiarias hair is very long almost to her waist

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h
Judge says trial is still on for jury selection Sept 8 #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h
The witness is refusing to be deposed by the defense. Nurmi wants hearing closed to discuss further #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h
Nurmi wants an ex parte and Juan objects. It's regarding the deposition #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h
Judge says put it in writing to Nurmi, he expresses more issues and Judge calls sidebar #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h
#jodiarias looks around gallery smiling and talks to Maria

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 · 1h
Jodi Arias def atty Kirk Nurmi is making arguments to try to question a witness in a deposition instead of open court.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h
Case management hearing will be on Aug 13, 8:30am MST #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h
No glasses for #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h
Nurmi says Juan has not informed them of any experts or witnesses they are going to call #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 59m
Nurmi says Juan hasn't shown what evidence he has to show #jodiarias shouldn't be shown mercy

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 58m
Juan says he's disclosed everyone and one of them is Cheryl Carp #jodiarias

 

[geevee]

(Part 2)

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 · 58m
Jodi Arias def atty says he is seeking sanctions against pros Juan Martinez for not disclosing information on his witnesses.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 58m
Judge states she saw these witnesses/experts were disclosed by state #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 55m
#jodiarias glasses are back! Lol

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 54m
A man from gallery shouted "bye Jodi" as they took her away #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 50m
#jodiarias supporters are in the house. About 5 of them

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 47m
Juan is in a black suit with burgundy and black striped tie #JuanTieReport #jodiarias ��

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 44m
Nurmi and Jen have gone to a side room with court reporter. Juan is still out here #jodiarias

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 · 43m
Jodi Arias defense team just left courtroom with the judge and court reporter. Juan Martinez left behind.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 37m
Nurmi and Jen are back and we have an "approach" #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 36m
#jodiarias is back!

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 · 35m
Don't know what happened in chambers but #jodiarias came out smiling. Talking to mitigation specialist right now.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 34m
Lawyers are going through their calendars with Judge...They all have smart phones, Juan has a book lol #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 33m
Juan is using a Dr Hayes. She hasn't interviewed #jodiarias yet but when does will hand over notes to Nurmi

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 32m
Hearing has concluded #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 22m
The name of the reluctant witness wasn't disclosed #jodiarias

Tweeter-links:

https://twitter.com/TrialDiariesJ

https://twitter.com/troyhaydenfox10

 

[geevee]

Couple tweets that didn't paste or I missed:

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 54m
Looks like #jodiarias support group has dwindled to 3 lol

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h
Nurmi says Juan hasn't shown what evidence he has to show #jodiarias shouldn't be shown mercy

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h
Wow Willmott is now a redhead #jodiarias

Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 · 1h
Jodi Arias just walked into the courtroom. Wearing striped jail uniform and shackles.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 59m
Nurmi has lost even more weight I didn't recognize him when I first arrived #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h View translation
Long sidebar #jodiarias Jen has arrived

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h View translation
Maria de la rosa is now here too #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h
Judge Stephens is on the bench but no #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h View translation
Juan and Nurmi are here #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1h
So far hearing is open and I'm in! #jodiarias

Tweeter-links:

https://twitter.com/TrialDiariesJ

https://twitter.com/troyhaydenfox10

 

[Niner]

Thanks geevee for those tweets!! :tyou:

 

[Love Never Fails]

Thanks Geevee! Sounds like defense witness does not want to testify. Love that. Anyone know anything about dr. Hayes?

 

[geevee]

BBM. I can't remember exactly what happened last year -- I don't know that the judge ORDERED her to stop tweeting, but I know the subject came up when Nurmi was *itching about JM turning the trial into a circus. I thought it was "agreed" that she would stop tweeting. Guess this is just another example of how JA has to do things her way and be damned to everybody else.

According to the The State vs JA FB, they confirmed Maria was her 'twitter manager', (copy of it posted on Dr. Kristin Randle's Mental Health & Criminal Justice blog):

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/the-jodi-arias-defamation-lawsuit/

Seems like it was right around the time that Maria was banned from the jail for taking the pin wheel drawing out that the tweeting from JA's regular twitter stopped with the 'signing off' tweet.

Hope I haven't broken any TOS rules with above post, if so, no hard feelings if deleted or snipped.

 

[geevee]

Thanks Geevee! Sounds like defense witness does not want to testify. Love that. Anyone know anything about dr. Hayes?

YW I thought the defense witness that they were going to talk about was one of the three that filed the amicus brief (with all the Illuminati and other strange stuff), if it's someone else, I have no idea who it is, or who this Dr. Hayes is, but will do some looking around and see if I can find anything out. So glad the hearings are open again so we get at least a little info. lol

 

[geevee]

Oh, it must be Dr. Jill Hayes, the rebuttal witness:

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/jodi-arias-trial-dr-jill-hayes-last-witness-for-the-prosecution/

 

[Love Never Fails]

So am I understanding you correctly? The defense witness that doesn't want to be deposed is actually Dr. Hayes, a witness for the prosecution? I will read what Kris Krandle has written.

And Dr. Karl is the first psychologist to see JA?

I am flat on my back with my iPad. I hurt my back Saturday and have been having spasms. Doctor won't prescribe anything unless I am seen first and I cannot get into a car. I do well enough to get to a restroom. I know it will get better as I did the same thing in 2008. ( a bulging disk) and was in hospital for four weeks. Do not want that again. Anyone with ideas to help me? Sure would be appreciated with much love and gratitude!! You all are the best. I don't post much but I read everything.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Mm

According to the The State vs JA FB, they confirmed Maria was her 'twitter manager', (copy of it posted on Dr. Kristin Randle's Mental Health & Criminal Justice blog):

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/the-jodi-arias-defamation-lawsuit/

Seems like it was right around the time that Maria was banned from the jail for taking the pin wheel drawing out that the tweeting from JA's regular twitter stopped with the 'signing off' tweet.

Hope I haven't broken any TOS rules with above post, if so, no hard feelings if deleted or snipped.

I had hoped we had heard the last of Maria. Sadly, no.

 

[geevee]

Really sorry about your back.

No, the reluctant witness isn't Dr. Hayes, that witness' name wasn't disclosed today. Dr. Hayes is supposed to interview JA but hasn't yet, when she does she will turn over notes to Nurmi (according to the tweets).

 

[Love Never Fails]

How could anyone defame the killer more than she has?

 

[Love Never Fails]

Thanks Geevee. Dr. Hayes was not part of first trial? This going to be good. I am still hoping for a live stream and cameras in courtroom.

 

[ShadyLady]

Hi everyone...still no cameras in courtroom?

Least they could do is have a live audio feed.

 

[Love Never Fails]

YW I thought the defense witness that they were going to talk about was one of the three that filed the amicus brief (with all the Illuminati and other strange stuff), if it's someone else, I have no idea who it is, or who this Dr. Hayes is, but will do some looking around and see if I can find anything out. So glad the hearings are open again so we get at least a little info. lol

So am I understanding you correctly? The defense witness that doesn't want to be deposed is actually Dr. Hayes, a witness for the prosecution? I will read what Kris Krandle has written.

And Dr. Karl is the first psychologist to see JA?

I am flat on my back with my iPad. I hurt my back Saturday and have been having spasms. Doctor won't prescribe anything unless I am seen first and I cannot get into a car. I do well enough to get to a restroom. I know it will get better as I did the same thing in 2008. ( a bulging disk) and was in hospital for four weeks. Do not want that again. Anyone with ideas to help me? Sure would be appreciated with much love and gratitude!! You all are the best. I don't post much but I read everything.

Sorry. I meant dr Cheryl Karp. Not dr. Karl. Hard time here typing while lying on my back. iPad too heavy. Does anyone use a lightweight notebook, pad, kindle or anything that I can buy? I need something very lightweight. Thanks.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Hi everyone...still no cameras in courtroom?

Least they could do is have a live audio feed.

Hi Shady. I wish it would be live stream. Maybe JSS will rule for the cameras by September. Don't you know she is sick of the killer by now?

 

[Love Never Fails]

Think the reluctant defense witness is Darryl brewer?

 

[zoey]

Thought I'd give you an update:

Friday, the Dr. over seeing my dad in the hospital called and said he hadn't eaten for 2 days, there would be no heroic measures. His state of dementia had left him staring blindly and mouthing silent words. I called my brother to give him an update. Random ideas of "seeing him" came and went through hours of conversation, kind of a dare, kind of wishful thinking, kind of ridiculous really.

My littlest bro, Jonathan, is my best bud. We've been going through psych meds and therapy for years because of our childhood traumas. We're 8 years apart and he was my side kick through out childhood, and as an adult. I took him in when my dad threw him out at 17, and made sure he graduated High School, and had a home to come back to when he needed to regroup for the following 7 years.
We talk all the time on the phone, he's in Washington, I'm here in Arizona.
Saturday, we went on a journey together..totally unplanned, but we had kinda nudged each other subconsciously into it without REALLY saying it.
We set up Skype, something neither of us had done for years. I didn't have the video end of mine together, but he had it on his end. He gave me a tour of his home, and the dog trails he takes his dog out on, by a lake 5 minutes from his house, the incredible mountains, the forest (he's in North Bend), and then his battery ran out.........
Next thing I know, he's in his 4Runner, back online and we're driving through his neighborhood, driving into the main drag of North Bend, driving past fields where elk graze........and on our way to Issaquah.
We ended up at the Cascade Wing of the Swedish Hospital, on the 4th floor, where my dad is.
My brother and I had the most spiritual experience we have ever had that day, 10 minutes with the man who had given us so much pain...............
..............................and it was incredible!
Everything that had made us feel so unwanted, unloved, and unworthy disappeared.
My dad had clarity for about 7 minutes. He knew my brother on sight and said his name, he knew my voice, called me by name, and asked where I was because he couldn't see me and but could hear me. We told him we forgave him and we loved him. He said he loved us and to be happy.............Everything we had wanted to hear from our dad was said in that brief 7 minutes, we were crying, he had tears running down his face as he said he loved us, we told him to go in peace........and then the dementia came back and he was back in another reality, silent and staring.

We had closure, we felt loved, and a sadness for what it could have been with the soul who was there in that bed.
And everyday since has been better than the last. We are making peace and the nightmares of our past are disappearing.

My dad hasn't eaten for 6 days now. He will be gone soon.
He gave us both an incredible gift, and we will never be the same.
It was truly a life changing experience and I can honestly say I love my dad, for all his failings and missteps through life, I love him and he truly loves me.
And that is enough. That's all I needed to make myself whole. I am at peace with myself.

I tried <modsnip> but my computer crashed. I will try again. Sending (((((hugs)))))

By the way~~your brother lives very close to where I grew up!!! Take care of yourself~~be happy for your closure and allow yourself to grieve.

 

[ShadyLady]

Hi Shady. I wish it would be live stream. Maybe JSS will rule for the cameras by September. Don't you know she is sick of the killer by now?

LOL...probably. But, I am not done wanting to see Arias squirm!!!

PLUS....I want to see all the old crowd on WS. Miss sharing music and laughs with WS buddies.

 

[geevee]

Thought I'd give you an update:

Friday, the Dr. over seeing my dad in the hospital called and said he hadn't eaten for 2 days, there would be no heroic measures. His state of dementia had left him staring blindly and mouthing silent words. I called my brother to give him an update. Random ideas of "seeing him" came and went through hours of conversation, kind of a dare, kind of wishful thinking, kind of ridiculous really.

My littlest bro, Jonathan, is my best bud. We've been going through psych meds and therapy for years because of our childhood traumas. We're 8 years apart and he was my side kick through out childhood, and as an adult. I took him in when my dad threw him out at 17, and made sure he graduated High School, and had a home to come back to when he needed to regroup for the following 7 years.
We talk all the time on the phone, he's in Washington, I'm here in Arizona.
Saturday, we went on a journey together..totally unplanned, but we had kinda nudged each other subconsciously into it without REALLY saying it.
We set up Skype, something neither of us had done for years. I didn't have the video end of mine together, but he had it on his end. He gave me a tour of his home, and the dog trails he takes his dog out on, by a lake 5 minutes from his house, the incredible mountains, the forest (he's in North Bend), and then his battery ran out.........
Next thing I know, he's in his 4Runner, back online and we're driving through his neighborhood, driving into the main drag of North Bend, driving past fields where elk graze........and on our way to Issaquah.
We ended up at the Cascade Wing of the Swedish Hospital, on the 4th floor, where my dad is.
My brother and I had the most spiritual experience we have ever had that day, 10 minutes with the man who had given us so much pain...............
..............................and it was incredible!
Everything that had made us feel so unwanted, unloved, and unworthy disappeared.
My dad had clarity for about 7 minutes. He knew my brother on sight and said his name, he knew my voice, called me by name, and asked where I was because he couldn't see me and but could hear me. We told him we forgave him and we loved him. He said he loved us and to be happy.............Everything we had wanted to hear from our dad was said in that brief 7 minutes, we were crying, he had tears running down his face as he said he loved us, we told him to go in peace........and then the dementia came back and he was back in another reality, silent and staring.

We had closure, we felt loved, and a sadness for what it could have been with the soul who was there in that bed.
And everyday since has been better than the last. We are making peace and the nightmares of our past are disappearing.

My dad hasn't eaten for 6 days now. He will be gone soon.
He gave us both an incredible gift, and we will never be the same.
It was truly a life changing experience and I can honestly say I love my dad, for all his failings and missteps through life, I love him and he truly loves me.
And that is enough. That's all I needed to make myself whole. I am at peace with myself.

That put a lump in my throat and tears in my eyes Bern, much peace to your Dad in his remaining days and much love, hugs and happiness to you and your brother for all the rest of yours.