SIDEBAR #43 - Arias/Alexander forum

[Bernina]

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 26s26 seconds ago
Nurmi drills: "If you don't see it, it didn't happen" in regards to no PD or Medical reports documenting #JodiArias abuse claimed #abc15

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 25s25 seconds ago
Nurmi says several other psychologists with a lot of experience diagnosed #JodiArias with battered woman syndrome.

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 26s27 seconds ago
Nurmi: what if a dr told you it could be cancer but i haven't seen anything like this. but i read about cancer and this isn't it. (cont'd)

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 16s17 seconds ago
that's what demarte did. would you trust that dr? #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 43s44 seconds ago
KN- DeMarte wants to say with 1 year experience at time she did test knows more than Geffner and Fonseca #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jarrett Seltzer ‏@JarrettSeltzer 37s38 seconds ago
Nurmi is using a doctor analogy to compare demarte to everyone else #JodiArias

Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 26s27 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
Defense in #JodiArias wants to say DrDeMarte is a novice who doesn't know anything about domestic violence

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 26s27 seconds ago
He's telling them they can't trust Dr De except he utilized her diagnosis all morning so... weird. #jodiarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 24s25 seconds ago
Nurmi says that 4 experts with decades of experience diagnosed #jodiarias as a victim of domestic violence but inexperienced DeMarte said no

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 47s48 seconds ago
KN compares this to someone seeing a new Dr with an unknown illness compared to going to someone with experience #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[Bernina]

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 44s44 seconds ago
Nurmi: why did this relationship end in murder? somethign was different about the way #TravisAlexander treated #JodiArias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 38s38 seconds ago
"All of the other relationships #JodiArias had ended peacefully... Why did this one end this way? Something was different."

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 32s32 seconds ago
KN- All of JA relationships ended peacefully but this one didn't because it was different and TA treated her different #jodiarias #3tvarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 13s13 seconds ago
Nurmi asks what do we know about June 4, 2008? We know Travis & #JodiArias had sex.

Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 15s15 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
OMG Nurmi asks why did this relationship with #JodiArias end the way it did. His answer because of Travis. Ultimate blame the victim game.

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 14s14 seconds ago
Nurmi now going into what happened on the day of the murder. #JodiArias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 30s30 seconds ago
#JodiArias sitting up erect, very engaged in Nurmi's closing.

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 33s33 seconds ago
Mitigating factor # 6: #jodiarias suffered emotional distress from the abusive nature of relationship with Alexander.

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 26s27 seconds ago
Some jurors taking notes. #jodiarias

Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 8s9 seconds ago
Nurmi says all of #jodiarias other relationships ended peacefully-but not rel. w/TA-because TA treated her differently #JodiArias #3tvarias

 

[Bernina]

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 28s28 seconds ago
Nurmi says people thought #JodiArias would come over uninvited but this is how Travis would rationalize it.

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 21s21 seconds ago
Nurmi brings up #TravisAlexander claims to friends that #JodiArias was stalking him -- Why? So he could marginalize her #abc15

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 37s37 seconds ago
KN-TA kept his secret lifestyle a secret...he told people Jodi was stalking him....she would show up unannounced and uninvited #jodiarias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 25s26 seconds ago
Nurmi has a graph of the different women #TravisAlexander was "interacting" with and how they overlapped. #JodiArias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 33s33 seconds ago
Nurmi puts Geff's graph of TA's sextual relationships on screen. #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 32s32 seconds ago
Exhibit 841 being displayed. It's a timeline of who Travis was talking to. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 52s53 seconds ago
KN- Travis marginalized Jodi in case she told the truth #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 41s42 seconds ago
Nurmi: Alexander told people #jodiarias showed up unannounced to marginalize her. Meanwhile, his sex-based interactions with other women.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 59s59 seconds ago
KN throws up the Travis texting graph that Geff used to show he talked to lot's of women #jodiarias #3tvarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 42s42 seconds ago
Exhibit 615, a conversation with Regan Housley where she asks Travis if #JodiArias was still stalking him is displayed.

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 40s41 seconds ago
Nurmi: If Travis really was scared of #JodiArias why would he invite her back for sex? B/c he was manipulating her and other women?

 

[Bernina]

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 33s33 seconds ago
Nurmi: in a May 2008 message to Regan, Alexander feared #jodiarias would kill him. So why did he ask her to his house for sex in June?

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 51s52 seconds ago
KN saying TA wasn't really fearful of JA...he was having a sexual encounter with her after making comments to Regan about how scared he was

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 47s48 seconds ago
Nurmi tells jurors #TravisAlexander marginalized #JodiArias in case she told the truth #abc15

Jarrett Seltzer ‏@JarrettSeltzer 33s34 seconds ago
"you heard a lot about *advertiser censored* during the course of this trial" uhhh yea #JodiArias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 33s33 seconds ago
Nurmi now bringing up *advertiser censored* again. #JodiArias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 31s31 seconds ago
Nurmi brings up the computer *advertiser censored* for the first time today and says "What does this have to do with what happened?" #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 26s27 seconds ago
KN- You ask what does this have to do w/ the killing? It's the circumstances that surrounded it. TA was looking at *advertiser censored* #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 19s19 seconds ago
Nurmi says TA was talking to all of these women and looking at *advertiser censored*. #jodiarias

 

[Bernina]

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 16s17 seconds ago
Nurmi says the computer is an analogy to Alexander. The *advertiser censored* on the browser and then all the programs to hide or erase it. #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 32s32 seconds ago
TA had scrubbers, he had a virus on computer, he downloaded Spybot...I suggest this browser had issues long before June 1, 2008 #jodiarias

Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 18s18 seconds ago
Nurmi turns to *advertiser censored* on TA's computer-issue that likely won't have much impact on retrial-but likely big impact on appeal #jodiarias#3tvarias

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 15s15 seconds ago
Nurmi brings up *advertiser censored* claims against #TravisAlexander - What did he talk about? He talked about #JodiArias being his *advertiser censored* star #abc15

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 34s35 seconds ago
KN- Listen to the sex call and what TA said. Cream Pie's for an example shows he was watching *advertiser censored* #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 31s32 seconds ago
Nurmi says that in the phone sex recording, Alexander refers to #jodiarias as a *advertiser censored* star and uses *advertiser censored* terminology like "cream pie."

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 54s55 seconds ago
Nurmi: would *advertiser censored* be normal in other situations/ Yes, but Travis was a Mormon and tellinng everyone he was a good mormon. #JodiArias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 47s48 seconds ago
Nurmi says Travis talks dirty to #JodiArias by telling her he will give her a cream pie. It shows he has an investment in to *advertiser censored*.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 31s32 seconds ago
Jury is watching KN and taking it in #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 37s38 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
#JodiArias Travis the mormon vs Travis the *advertiser censored* fend.

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 36s37 seconds ago
Nurmi brings up *advertiser censored* video like sexual acts #TravisAlexander wanted to do with #JodiArias #abc15

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 24s25 seconds ago
Jury is watching and listening to KN and taking it in...what they do with it is the question..#jodiarias #3tvarias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 24s25 seconds ago
Nurmi brings up printout with stills from *advertiser censored* videos found on the computer.

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 48s48 seconds ago
Nurmi zooms in on a thumbnail of *advertiser censored* & tells the jury they will have a chance to look at it in the jury room. #NoThanks #JodiArias

Jarrett Seltzer ‏@JarrettSeltzer 38s38 seconds ago
"you saw pornographic images, 4 or 5 of them" #JodiArias - I'd say he's a saint if that's all that was there

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 59s59 seconds ago
It's almost lunch time and I don't sense Nurmi is even close to ending. #JodiArias

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 39s40 seconds ago
Nurmi showing *advertiser censored* video images found on #TravisAlexander computer -- "We know that last viewing session wasn't erased" #JodiArias #abc15

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 36s37 seconds ago
We are looking at the thumbnails to the *advertiser censored* movies and KN is bringing up the 45 min *advertiser censored* viewing session by TA on "You *advertiser censored*" #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 31s31 seconds ago
Nurmi says you saw graphic text messages from Travis Alexander so the *advertiser censored* issue is not hard to believe. #JodiArias

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 17s17 seconds ago
Nurmi brings up how #TravisAlexander had #JodiArias dress in braids for sex and video showed teen in braids having sex w/teacher #abc15

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 37s38 seconds ago
"He had an intense sexual motivation that was manifesting itself..." #JodiArias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 33s34 seconds ago
i could go my entiere life without ever hearing Nurmi read the titles of those *advertiser censored* videos again.

 

[Bernina]

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 13s14 seconds ago
Juan is taking notes. #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 19s19 seconds ago
Nurmi hitting the *advertiser censored* issue hard now. Travis was motivated by sex. #JodiArias

Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 12s12 seconds agoPhoenix, AZ
*advertiser censored* pop ups being used by Nurmi to dirty Travis. Still no child *advertiser censored* in #JodiArias and no connection of sex to murder in case EVER.

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 18s19 seconds ago
JSS taking less notes. #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 4s5 seconds ago
#JodiArias transforms herself into what guys want.

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 4s4 seconds ago
#JodiArias Atty Nurmi throws out some shocking sex terms -- taking after prosecutor #JuanMartinez #abc15

Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 32s32 seconds ago
Lunch. Return 1:25MST #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 41s42 seconds ago
Afternoon recess. Be back at 1:25pm MST #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 48s48 seconds ago
"The state can't have it both ways." Participating in that kind of sex was another way #jodiarias molded her behavior to Travis Alexander.

 

[Chelly]

Lit my candle.
Full of emotion.

 

[Kensie]

Is everyone mad at kirk now??? I just saw a few tweets and I was ready to lose my lunch.

This is such an emotional day and will be for several more days.

Please let Travis get the justice he deserves.

 

[YESorNO]

Is everyone mad at kirk now??? I just saw a few tweets and I was ready to lose my lunch.

This is such an emotional day and will be for several more days.

Please let Travis get the justice he deserves.

BBM I'm not mad at Lawrence- he's just doing his job, IMO.

I don't think he likes missy:jail: at all.

He is very against the DP in general. Take a look at his Twitter site: https://twitter.com/_nurmilaw

L. Kirk Nurmi retweeted
Abolish DeathPenalty @ncadp · Oct 3
How does capital punishment affect the prison guards and wardens tasked with carrying it out?http://theatln.tc/1pqx0vz

 

[Spellbound]

I just find this so boring and cannot imagine having to be a juror sitting in that courtroom. Regurgitation at best ..... I need to hear another trial with KN to know if he is always this hard to focus interest on. I don't think I could do that, though.

How likely we will get through ALL the closings today? Juan won't take forever and will say so much more. Quality, not quantity.

 

[Bernina]

I just find this so boring and cannot imagine having to be a juror sitting in that courtroom. Regurgitation at best ..... I need to hear another trial with KN to know if he is always this hard to focus interest on. I don't think I could do that, though.

How likely we will get through ALL the closings today? Juan won't take forever and will say so much more. Quality, not quantity.

Nurmi.............:gaah:

 

[YESorNO]

If any of you have read some of my articles on defense attorneys, you must know that defense lawyers have to follow the rules about
whether their clients are lying or not- it's a very tenuous situation and the lawyers have to follow whatever their clients spout out of their mouths- whether it's true or not. That's not really the issue, IMO. He's there to defend his clients- no matter what.

Lawrence is a good lawyer, IMO, not as good as JM, of course, but I think he is still a good man, even if he defends sex offenders (someone has to do it, IMO).

All :moo:

 

[Bernina]

Mark Henle ‏@HenleMark 10m10 minutes agoCasa Grande, AZ
#JodiArias lsitens to final arguments during the sentencing phase of her retrial Tuesday morning.

 

[Bernina]

Mark Henle ‏@HenleMark 9m9 minutes agoCasa Grande, AZ
Judge Sherry Stephens reads instructions to the jury during the #JodiArias sentencing phase of the retrial Tuesday.

 

[Bernina]

Mark Henle ‏@HenleMark 9m9 minutes agoCasa Grande, AZ
A photo of #JodiArias and her former boyfriend, Travis Alexander on a computer screen during final arguments Tuesday.

 

[Bernina]

Mark Henle ‏@HenleMark 8m8 minutes agoCasa Grande, AZ
Attorney Kirk Nurmi presents his final arguments during the sentencing phase of the #JodiArias retrial.

 

[YESorNO]

Mark Henle ‏@HenleMark 10m10 minutes agoCasa Grande, AZ
#JodiArias lsitens to final arguments during the sentencing phase of her retrial Tuesday morning.

Is she trying to cry here? Pftttt

Lawrence shows more remorse in his words than she does/did, IMO.

 

[Chelly]

I wonder how a really good defense lawyer would defend JA. Wish we could hear from one.

 

[YESorNO]

Bernina

Thanks for the tweets- I know how much work it is (especially today with so many tweeters twittering today).

:blowkiss:

 

[Spellbound]

If any of you have read some of my articles on defense attorneys, you must know that defense lawyers have to follow the rules about
whether their clients are lying or not- it's a very tenuous situation and the lawyers have to follow whatever their clients spout out of their mouths- whether it's true or not. That's not really the issue, IMO. He's there to defend his clients- no matter what.

Lawrence is a good lawyer, IMO, not as good as JM, of course, but I think he is still a good man, even if he defends sex offenders (someone has to do it, IMO).

All :moo:

You may be right, Y/N, but I find his style/mannerisms to be a deterrent if I try to think as if I was a juror in the courtroom. I don't think I follow him very well. The fewer words the better, if you are able to do so. I am not good at that myself, and he may not be either. But it gets old after a while. JMO, of course.

ETA: I do realize he has nothing much to work with and an obstinate client. I could never, ever be a defense lawyer.