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Nezumi said:
I think that was already asked and answered in the legal thread. If I understood correctly, the Prosecution can punt this to the judge instead of retrying the penalty phase. In that case, the judge can sentence her to LWOP but not the DP. Tecnhically, I think LWP is an option but one with no teeth because the Arizona legislature removed it from sentencing options in the 1990's. So, if the DT takes 'do overs', they have a shot at the DP or LWOP or the 'not really' LWP from the new jury. If they punt to the judge it's LWOP or the 'not really' LWP. No matter how it plays out, she spends her natural life in the pokey and never sees the light of a normal, free day again. And I'm okay with that.
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Thank you for posting this! :yourock: I have the same "TAKE" on the situation as it stands NOW. I asked the following two questions on the legal thread and AZLawyer has answered:

Originally Posted by dani
Just to be clear, when you state, "Jodi was "grandfathered in" to the old statute", does this mean:

1. If PAROLE is EVER reinstituted in Arizona, Jodi would not be eligible for parole.

2. And to be even MORE clear…Jodi Ann Arias is totally screwed and will NEVER leave Perryville prison unless it is in a pine box (or body bag or whatever is in vogue at the moment) no matter what happens in the courtroom from here on out.

Can you give me your answers as TRUE or FALSE, please?

Thank you so much!

1. False.

By "grandfathered in," I mean that she is eligible for a sentence of "25-to-life" as well as sentences of natural life or death (the current options). If she does get that sentence, AND PAROLE IS REINSTITUTED IN ARIZONA sometime in the future, and 25 years pass, then she WOULD be eligible for parole. If she gets that sentence, and 25 years pass but parole is still abolished in Arizona, then IMO she will not be eligible for parole.

2. False but only technically.

First, as explained above, she could get a sentence of 25-to-life and then the AZ Legislature could reinstate parole and then she could actually be granted parole. Three hurdles, none of which IMO are likely to happen.

Second, there are other possible "outs"--reversal on appeal followed by a lower sentence being imposed or a prison escape come to mind. Also highly unlikely.

So IMO I would bet large amounts of money on her being in prison for the remainder of her natural life.
 
marlap said:
YUM...I'll bring Italian Cream Cake

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Diet...what is that word? A noun, or a verb, or what?
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Perfect setting a place for you now!

Desert looks yummy.....I made banana cheesecake with caramel drizzle....we can indulge!
 
21merc7 said:
Never gonna' happen. JA ain't changing no laws. The Alexander family will be sure of it, the rest of their lives. What she did is more heinous than most in jail on Murder 1.
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Exactly...thank you. Then why is Mr. Foreman going on about Dahmer and Manson? Why doesn't he think about it in your terms...that what she did is far worse than others in prison on M1? She is not on the same level as someone who pre-planned and killed someone with a single gunshot.
 
Isabelle said:
Agree completely! Or even in my sleep, you'd never know. Sweet!
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i agree! i had to have an endoscopy and I wasn't totally out but whatever they gave me had me loving life..those 10 seconds before I lost memory were amazing. I told my husband this in the recovery room and he of course had some off-color michael jackson comments but it's true!
 
I am going to order the books from that Deputy Warden that post those utube videos

I started on his second & its sounds good
 
kpm said:
Perfect setting a place for you now!

Desert looks yummy.....I made banana cheesecake with caramel drizzle....we can indulge!
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I know I'm new here but can I join? I have a really large bottle of chardonnay that needs to be drank and fresh bruschetta...2 kids under 20 months will do that to you!
 
aa9511 said:
Exactly...thank you. Then why is Mr. Foreman going on about Dahmer and Manson? Why doesn't he think about it in your terms...that what she did is far worse than others in prison on M1? She is not on the same level as someone who pre-planned and killed someone with a single gunshot.
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I have no idea what Mr. Foreman is saying. I don't like listening to jurors that come out talking right away.

He may think that the death penalty should be reserved for serial killers only if he is thinking of Dahmer and Manson.
 
I saw the video someone posted the other day from the AZ Department of Corrections or someone (not sure who), who had made a training video using JA as an example of how inmates could manipulate the guards and officers at the jail using their finely-honed manipulation skills.

So did the court guard/officer laughing with CMJA not see that video?? I know they're human, but that just hit me the wrong way.....
 
21merc7 said:
I have no idea what Mr. Foreman is saying. I don't like listening to jurors that come out talking right away.

He may think that the death penalty should be reserved for serial killers only if he is thinking of Dahmer and Manson.
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He said something like "well she's not a dahmer or a manson," I believe it was a response to someone asking him if he thought CMJA was a monster. I don't remember exactly now....
 
oh god watching JVM, and i almost forgot how smug and smirky JA is when on the stand talking about sex....even when she "reveals," the little boy pic incident....

she's vile...she actually enjoyed herself talking about all if it!!

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aa9511 said:
He said something like "well she's not a dahmer or a manson," I believe it was a response to someone asking him if he thought CMJA was a monster. I don't remember exactly now....
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I'm going to guess he hasn't been exposed to more murder than what television provides.

I think of it differently as I have been exposed to a lot of real life murders through work. So, I can see differences in the methods and issues around them.

Quite honestly, I think if JA had gotten away with this she would kill again. Not crafty enough to be Dahmer or Manson, but would kill again. JMO.
 
seguek9,I have been thinking about you for the last couple of days! I dont know if I have been missing you or what, but happy to see you !!!! I have actually been having a JA free life for a few days and just doing hit and runs here...Right now sitting on my porch, drinking a Strawberry Abita Beer and enjoying the breeze...it gives me great joy to know that she will never again enjoy such pleasures !
 
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