Sidebar for Caylee Anthony's forum #15

[Steely Dan]

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Hi, I dont think there are loads of people ready to throttle her anymore, most will have settled down. BUT there is always that one person who means business as we have sadly found out. Wrong person, wrong thought, BINGO!!



:what::what::what::what:

When I said bloodbath I was using it metaphorically. I should have made that more clear. I think in reality she'd get a lot of snide remarks and maybe some hard shoulder bumps by people passing her. I also think she'd get a lot of questions about what really happened to Caylee that she'd be very bothered by. JMO

 

[Niner]

Quote:
Actor Rob Lowe says that while filming his latest movie, "Prosecuting Casey Anthony," about the young Florida mother who was put on trial for the murder of her 2-year-old daughter, he became convinced that she had killed little Caylee.

another excerpt:
When asked what he would like Anthony to take away from this film, Lowe says that while he's "never been able to understand her," he hopes that she takes away this lesson: "We all have consequences to our actions, although there are certain people who like to pretend otherwise. "

"There's a little girl who we must not forget who is at the heart of this, who is lost," continued Lowe. "Sometimes in Hollywood, there is not a happy ending. This is one of those times."

:gthanks: very much for posting that part of the interview ThinkTank I truly appreciate it!!

Also, for some reason I have never like Rob Lowe - but after reading the above, I have had a change of heart! :clap: Good for him!

Now - is this Life time movie on when?? January 14th or the 19th?? Anyone??

TIA!! :seeya:

Edited to add - just read the article, I believe it was strawberry that posted it - January 19th!! I think I'll watch it! Now to find the LifeTime channel in my area...

 

[bayouland]

Her Atty, Mr Greene has claimed numerous times that she is in fear of the public. IIRC she hasn't showed up to any hearing yet in the Zenaida case because of security concerns. So, do you think Mr Greene is lying to the court?

BBM. Yes.

(Sorry, I know the question wasn't asked of me, but I do think Rossva is 100% correct on this one. Casey fears nothing......never has....never will...she is laughing her $%#% off.) JMO.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

When I said bloodbath I was using it metaphorically. I should have made that more clear. I think in reality she'd get a lot of snide remarks and maybe some hard shoulder bumps by people passing her. I also think she'd get a lot of questions about what really happened to Caylee that she'd be very bothered by. JMO

And while we are all being perfectly clear - I meant my :furious: FLASHMOB :furious: reply as a humorous reply, not a call to justice.

PS - I got your meaning the first time Steely Dan - must be all the years of reading ya! :great:

 

[bayouland]

Mods, I am sorry for the off topic but since Websleuthers are normally interested in all things crime, I thought I would post the link to the FBI Vault files that I have been skimming lately. It is very interesting and they are all organized and indexed by name (no- no record on FCA.......)....
http://vault.fbi.gov/reading-room-index#C

"The Vault is our new electronic reading room, containing 6,700 documents and other media that have been scanned from paper into digital copies so you can read them in the comfort of your home or office. Included here are many new files that have been released to the public but never added to this website; dozens of records previously posted on our site but removed as requests diminished; files from our previous electronic reading room, and new, previously unreleased files."

Thanks!

 

[Pattymarie]

I think if she walked alone down the middle of a shopping mall it would be a bloodbath. JMO

I no longer think her life is in danger. I believe she is a pariah... however that plays out. If she was really innocent she would not be in this predicament. Everyone knows that. She got away with murder.

 

[watcher9]

Mods, I am sorry for the off topic but since Websleuthers are normally interested in all things crime, I thought I would post the link to the FBI Vault files that I have been skimming lately. It is very interesting and they are all organized and indexed by name (no- no record on FCA.......)....
http://vault.fbi.gov/reading-room-index#C

"The Vault is our new electronic reading room, containing 6,700 documents and other media that have been scanned from paper into digital copies so you can read them in the comfort of your home or office. Included here are many new files that have been released to the public but never added to this website; dozens of records previously posted on our site but removed as requests diminished; files from our previous electronic reading room, and new, previously unreleased files."

Thanks!

I wonder why there is no record on FCA.
Are any of these files dated in the last five years?

 

[Steely Dan]

And while we are all being perfectly clear - I meant my :furious: FLASHMOB :furious: reply as a humorous reply, not a call to justice.

PS - I got your meaning the first time Steely Dan - must be all the years of reading ya! :great:

Cool! Somebody actually reads my posts!! :great:

 

[krkrjx]

I have a comment regarding these "George back as Daddy" rumours....what silver haired gentleman escorted FCA out of Florida and provided bodyguard services when she was released from jail?

And what silver haired gentleman, not known for his truthfulness or at least his twisting of the facts during the Tim Miller searchers inquiries also arranged every other type of accomodations for FCA up until now, including a stay at the grounds of his church? And why do we think he would never identify himself as "George"? Wasn't he recently seen sharing chicken wings and beer with FCA in that area?

And what is the one thing that can stir up a posting storm about FCA except maybe news that she was giving /sold an interview or had started a new family? Implicating her parents back into a relationship with her is the answer.

I have no doubt FCA is living somewhere in the Cape area and she has been spotted. But I'm sure not going to let social media types jerk my chain again by jumping to conclusions about rumours being circulated out there when I well remember who we are dealing with.

This is social media rehabilitation year for FCA - remember? And some people need to keep FCA, the Anthony family and the verdict in the news. Here's one reason why.....

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #100,481 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

All IMO of course. I'll need pictures.

This!

I agree with all of it.

And to add...even if it were all true, or even partly true...who cares?? We all know her family lied to protect her; no one cared enough about little Caylee to do the right thing.

I also do not believe Casey is getting any death threats. If anyone really wanted to take her out they would not give a heads up first...they would just do it. The death threat talk is just part of the "poor misunderstood Casey" nonsense.

I hope she disappears.

 

[ThinkTank]

Really? Did he say on Aprhodite's show that he agreed with the verdict? I don't get that at all from him but what do I know? I couldn't watch aphrodite's show when I saw JB on the commercial then read she came to agree with the verdict. :sick:

PEOPLE Steve H did not come out and say that he agrees with the verdict [that I know of], but his actions tend to indicate that he supports the jurors, as does Aphrodite and the other guests on her show. Why participate in a show that is clearly in support of the jurors and their verdict?

Aphrodite has said for the promos to her show that she does agree with the verdict and the purpose/theme of her show is to show how the jurors were right because they were not given enough evidence at trial.

One guest of her show is Baez who will promote his book and tell again how Caylee's death was not a murder, but rather an "accident" involving George. Baez supports the jurors and their verdict.

Another guest of her show is Judge Eaton who supports the jurors and their verdict, calling Caylee nothing but "a bag of bones", which premeditation could not be found on.

Judge Strickland is a guest who says that the juror's verdict suggests that people [jurors] need to have a better understanding of "reasonable doubt".

PEOPLE - Steve H. will be on her show to share the opinions of Juror # 2 Raymond Screen, who he interviewed, and who said there was not enough evidence to convict, beyond a reasonable doubt.

In addition, PEOPLE - Steve H. is trying to sell his own book on the Casey case. see AMAZON.com

PEOPLE - Steve H. was a participant in the MSNBC documentary which supports Baez and his book 100%.

PEOPLE - Steve H. did his own interview and article entirely on Baez and his book.

However, something that PEOPLE - Steve H. has NOT done, is a story on the finding of the fool-proof suffocation searches done by FCA. Why no PEOPLE article on this big news? Why is PEOPLE on the Aphrodite show, but has done nothing on the fool-proof suffocation searches?

Twitter:
Steve Helling ‏@stevehelling
@strawberrypsu It was very impressive work by some of the @websleuths folks.

Steve Helling ‏@stevehelling
@strawberrypsu @websleuths I was so impressed with the Arizona lady. I'm not sure what to think about the timeline now.
Nov 26, 2012

Steve Helling ‏@stevehelling
@strawberrypsu Don't know how this would've changed things - the jury had a mind of their own, but it really might have made a difference..
Nov 26, 2012

Someone ‏@strawberrypsu
@stevehelling Well you did a good job on Nancy Grace! Even if she yelled at you!

Steve Helling ‏@stevehelling
@strawberrypsu Whoever the lawyer from Arizona is, she's one sharp lady!
Nov 26, 2012

 

[RR0004]

I just caught this on MSN. Hope they charge them under Caylee's Law, but don't know if they can as the child had been missing since 2011!!

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...-remains-discovered-in-missing-baby-case?lite

 

[Eidetic]

I just caught this on MSN. Hope they charge them under Caylee's Law, but don't know if they can as the child had been missing since 2011!!

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...-remains-discovered-in-missing-baby-case?lite

That poor beautiful baby. Did the Godfather report that horrendous text message from his mother when it occurred?!

 

[ThinkTank]

According to PEOPLE mag issue July 16, 2012 - George was "working on forgiveness and reconciliation" with FCA.

IMO it is no surprise to many people that George is not estranged from his daughter, and has been in contact with, and in support of her, for quite a while. I believe that many different people have seen and talked with George at FCA's condo.

Maybe that article was supposed to pave the way for the public to "forgive" FCA, as her father apparently has?

7/8/2012

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ZsaZsa
"I just did my grocery shopping and while waiting in line to check out I thumbed thru the latest People magazine to see what their 'Strange lonely life of Casey Anthony' story would have to say.... there's nothing new in it apart from the statement that GA is "working on forgiveness and reconciliation" with Casey. FWIW. Now it seems they have found a way to make a lucrative career out of Caylee, they shouldnt let a dead child stand in their way...!"

 

[A_News_Junkie]

According to PEOPLE mag issue July 16, 2012 - George was "working on forgiveness and reconciliation" with FCA.

IMO it is no surprise to many people that George is not estranged from his daughter, and has been in contact with, and in support of her, for quite a while. I believe that many different people have seen and talked with George at FCA's condo.

Maybe that article was supposed to pave the way for the public to "forgive" FCA, as her father apparently has?

7/8/2012

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Sidebar Discussion #8

ZsaZsa
"I just did my grocery shopping and while waiting in line to check out I thumbed thru the latest People magazine to see what their 'Strange lonely life of Casey Anthony' story would have to say.... there's nothing new in it apart from the statement that GA is "working on forgiveness and reconciliation" with Casey. FWIW. Now it seems they have found a way to make a lucrative career out of Caylee, they shouldnt let a dead child stand in their way...!"

Not sure if I can mention the person's site, but you know that guy that just had to say hi to Judge Stan and led to Judge Stan recusing himself........ well, he seems to have a lot to say on this topic.

 

[ThinkTank]

Not sure if I can mention the person's site, but you know that guy that just had to say hi to Judge Stan and led to Judge Stan recusing himself........ well, he seems to have a lot to say on this topic.

I hear ya! If it were only this one person, I might dismiss the info more easily.
But, he is not the only one who states for a fact that George has been at the condo a lot and at nearby eateries and that he definitely is NOT estranged from his daughter who not only accused him of sexual abuse of herself but also of drowning Caylee and a hint of sexual abuse of Caylee.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

I hear ya! If it were only this one person, I might dismiss the info more easily.
But, he is not the only one who states for a fact that George has been at the condo a lot and at nearby eateries and that he definitely is NOT estranged from his daughter who not only accused him of sexual abuse of herself but also of drowning Caylee and a hint of sexual abuse of Caylee.

Oh, I know but then again - call me 'UN-evolved' 'not forgiving' or whatever, but I never jumped on the poor pitiful GA, forgive poor GA train. IMHO the whole family is as bad (or almost) as the felon and they all weaved and crafted their roles to prevent justice for Caylee.

 

[Spice]

I believe the accounts of FCA living in Ocean Woods in Cape Canaveral because several different people, who do not know each other, have confirmed that she lives there. This info is not coming from one single source, with a suspicious agenda. Same with the George assisting FCA info - comes from different people with different opinions of George's motives.

The residents of this gated community do not want a media circus brought to their front doors, and have not sold photos of FCA in their midst.

I believe it as well TT. People didn't believe that she had a dog named "smooch" either or that she was staying in a house provided by a "pastor" in Florida. That all came out on social media LONG before it broke in the news and people were dismissive of those facts as rumors until they saw it themselves. Social media often has the facts before the news and mainstream media uses twitter etc as a source /leads for their stories. SM has literally changed the way the media and the world operates.

So if you say that different people who do not know each other and do not have an agenda are confirming that she lives in their community, I believe it. And why would they take a picture and invite the circus to their front door?

 

[Spice]

You don't really believe the threats or she is living in fear do you? She's most likely settled in some where where she is an unknown person, laughing at all the reports of "Casey sightings".

Anyone who has followed this case and understands Casey "Well, I guess I'm Famous" Anthony's personality on the most basic level cannot believe that one bit.

Attention is her drug, negative or otherwise and she will never be an "unknown" person anywhere, especially in Florida or the United States.

It has been said that she was surprised at the vitriol against her after the "verdict" or whatever you want to even call it. I'd say wearing wigs while walking your dog or showing up at a hearing via Skype wearing a wig, or hiding for almost 2 years speaks to her fear of retribution.

If she wasn't scared we would see photos of her dancing on the bar again and video of shopping sprees at Target.

I don't call the past two years "settled in." I call it hiding. Why did she "flee" the pastor's house when her location was revealed if she wasn't scared?

 

[logicalgirl]

PEOPLE Steve H did not come out and say that he agrees with the verdict [that I know of], but his actions tend to indicate that he supports the jurors, as does Aphrodite and the other guests on her show. Why participate in a show that is clearly in support of the jurors and their verdict?

Aphrodite has said for the promos to her show that she does agree with the verdict and the purpose/theme of her show is to show how the jurors were right because they were not given enough evidence at trial.

One guest of her show is Baez who will promote his book and tell again how Caylee's death was not a murder, but rather an "accident" involving George. Baez supports the jurors and their verdict.

Another guest of her show is Judge Eaton who supports the jurors and their verdict, calling Caylee nothing but "a bag of bones", which premeditation could not be found on.

Judge Strickland is a guest who says that the juror's verdict suggests that people [jurors] need to have a better understanding of "reasonable doubt".

PEOPLE - Steve H. will be on her show to share the opinions of Juror # 2 Raymond Screen, who he interviewed, and who said there was not enough evidence to convict, beyond a reasonable doubt.

In addition, PEOPLE - Steve H. is trying to sell his own book on the Casey case. see AMAZON.com

PEOPLE - Steve H. was a participant in the MSNBC documentary which supports Baez and his book 100%.

PEOPLE - Steve H. did his own interview and article entirely on Baez and his book.

However, something that PEOPLE - Steve H. has NOT done, is a story on the finding of the fool-proof suffocation searches done by FCA. Why no PEOPLE article on this big news? Why is PEOPLE on the Aphrodite show, but has done nothing on the fool-proof suffocation searches?

Twitter:
Steve Helling ‏@stevehelling
@strawberrypsu It was very impressive work by some of the @websleuths folks.

Steve Helling ‏@stevehelling
@strawberrypsu @websleuths I was so impressed with the Arizona lady. I'm not sure what to think about the timeline now.
Nov 26, 2012

Steve Helling ‏@stevehelling
@strawberrypsu Don't know how this would've changed things - the jury had a mind of their own, but it really might have made a difference..
Nov 26, 2012

Someone ‏@strawberrypsu
@stevehelling Well you did a good job on Nancy Grace! Even if she yelled at you!

Steve Helling ‏@stevehelling
@strawberrypsu Whoever the lawyer from Arizona is, she's one sharp lady!
Nov 26, 2012

For me - Steve Helling is a "man of the moment"

By that I mean:
I read his comments all during the trial and compared them to someone like Bill Schaeffer - and realized - Steve bobs along the surface of topics as they come along and agrees with whatever happens to be happening at "The Moment" - so he can be in on the interviews or the shows.....
In other words - I don't believe he has an opinion at all. He was absolutely convinced just before the verdict she would be found guilty. I realized later it wasn't his opinion - it was the "current" opinion. I have no idea if he even has one of his own.

Not a word to be taken seriously - not a word - IMO.

 

[rossva]

As I have stated previously, I am in Ocean Woods twice a day, and have been for the last couple of years. I walk two dogs an hour two times a day there for a handicapped/disabled lady who lives there. I find it highly unlikely she is living there; it is a very close knit community where pretty much every one knows every one else. There is absolutely no internal gossip about Casey Anthony living there, and it's not because they respect her privacy, imho, it's because she is not there.

I believe the accounts of FCA living in Ocean Woods in Cape Canaveral because several different people, who do not know each other, have confirmed that she lives there. This info is not coming from one single source, with a suspicious agenda. Same with the George assisting FCA info - comes from different people with different opinions of George's motives.

The residents of this gated community do not want a media circus brought to their front doors, and have not sold photos of FCA in their midst.

So, now we know why George never filed a defamation lawsuit over the sexual abuse accusations, and why George has not left the home where Cindy welcomes Casey ... George is IN on it all. He helped Casey get into a condo and offered money to keep a safe eye on her, and visits often, and dines nearby with Cindy.

I wonder if George is paying the pricey rent on that condo out of Caylee Fund money? Or Dr. Phil money? I wonder if George's name is on the condo lease?

I foolishly thought George would one day file a lawsuit for defamation, that he was just waiting for the right time, and also thought George's big show at Ashton's victory party was a message to his daughter that he was on the prosecution side .... I couldn't have been more wrong.

I always thought Cindy was FCA's enabler, and that George only went along with it to keep a roof over his head, which Cindy paid for. Now I see that George is the worst enabler of FCA. So disgusted! I just can't wrap my brain around grandparents who can overlook the murder of their grandchild, when they KNOW their daughter killed her. They KNOW there was no accident. They know FCA threw George under the bus to deflect judgment on FCA.

Now that there is no longer a threat of the death penalty for FCA, how does George justify supporting and assisting his daughter? In his own mind? What does he tell himself to be able to visit her often at the condo and ask security to keep a eye out for her and help her get into the condo, and dine with Cindy nearby?

When the evidence of the fool-proof suffocation came out, George had his attorney Lippman issue a statement that this evidence vindicates George ... meaning that it obviously incriminates his daughter .... but then George still plays daddy protector over his daughter at the condo and visits her often.