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[No it's not]

Nin. I thought it was BS....but I could be wrong. I remembered thinking it was odd MS put his mom down on a policy for TS. Then I thought, maybe MS thought the money might be given to her first, then she would give it to him. I do not remember a policy with MAG's name on it.

(Sorry I did not reply right away....we keep losing power...in 100 degree temps. I fall asleep when ac kicks in, with iPad in lap.....and promptly zonk out until we lose power again, wake up hot, but cannot answer you as internet is out too....this has happened at least 3 times until now, 2 am! Going to bed! )

I went back and checked it. Hope it is all right to post the Wink News FB link with the only(!) life session recorded of the MS bail reduction hearing from April 21st.

Play from app.marker 15:00. Sound is poor. I recommend amplifying the sound on your computer just for that one recording. Windows: Go to control panel, to Sound, click Speakers, click Properties, click Enhancements, choose Loudness Equalization, click okay, then okay in the first window. Same procedure to uncheck.

Beneficiaries for the LI policies with Statefarm, Ohio National Life, Prudential Life and Jackson National Life (401K) include Ms and/or MS Revocable Trust as primary beneficiary and then MAG and/ or JS (daughter) as secondary named beneficiaries. BS is not listed at all.

https://www.facebook.com/winknewstv...=1075042762539623&comment_tracking={"tn":"R4"

 

[AZlawyer]

Snipped for focus

I don't think this is correct... my understanding was that the house was held jointly and MS just removed her name from the deed. If it were in her name only, he wouldn't have been able to simply change the deed as the house would have been part of her estate and would have to go through probate.

Perhaps someone with a better memory can confirm?

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I'm on my phone so can't easily check, but my recollection was that it was a joint deed and he didn't even "remove" her--he or someone on his behalf just recorded the death certificate, which automatically made MS the sole owner of record without the need to record a new deed.

 

[msboo]

Wyle_E_Coyote....... you're correct. The deed for 27034 Jarvis was in both names from early 2005 til after her death. It was transferred in to Mark's name on 7/29/2015 as recorded.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

Wyle_E_Coyote....... you're correct. The deed for 27034 Jarvis was in both names from early 2005 til after her death. It was transferred in to Mark's name on 7/29/2015 as recorded.

Well, gee, MS surely didn't waste any time in accomplishing that, did her?

 

[Wow]

I'm trying to upload picture but can't figure it out.....the house of horrors is looking rough, weeds are tall.

 

[FelicityLemon]

Sometimes, I read something I must have read before, but for some reason it either didn't register at the time (I blew it off) or I have completely forgotten it.

Today, I saw this and it hit me: "Both had been talking about pursuing a divorce, the affidavit said." Article dated Dec 1, 2015, but I thought the announcement of the plea deal coincided with the arrest of MS. http://www.naplesnews.com/news/local/investigators-mark-sievers-planned-his-wifes-killing-with-longtime-friend-had-4-million-in-life--25d-359808321.html

BOTH had been talking about divorce?

 

[ScotAng]

Sometimes, I read something I must have read before, but for some reason it either didn't register at the time (I blew it off) or I have completely forgotten it.

Today, I saw this and it hit me: "Both had been talking about pursuing a divorce, the affidavit said." Article dated Dec 1, 2015, but I thought the announcement of the plea deal coincided with the arrest of MS. http://www.naplesnews.com/news/local/investigators-mark-sievers-planned-his-wifes-killing-with-longtime-friend-had-4-million-in-life--25d-359808321.html

BOTH had been talking about divorce?

Well spotted. Strange no one picked up on that before, not that I recall anyway. It would've been a real talking point on here.

I thought it might have been an updated report, but the 'click on earlier version' has it in there too. I wonder where they got that info from 'cause there's no way he'd have been the instigator of divorce. Possibly face-saving from MS to CWW? Still, curious as to where they got the info.

 

[SurfieTX]

Well spotted. Strange no one picked up on that before, not that I recall anyway. It would've been a real talking point on here.

I thought it might have been an updated report, but the 'click on earlier version' has it in there too. I wonder where they got that info from 'cause there's no way he'd have been the instigator of divorce. Possibly face-saving from MS to CWW? Still, curious as to where they got the info.

BBM: It is probably from the first document dump where it was noted that MS sent a "lengthy Facebook post to CWW about divorce." However, later documents show that the "lengthy post" was a type of meme share post. It was a joke or meant to be one. It wasn't at all personal.

It's here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8c2wwajhOX1c0b00/view Bates 53 - third paragraph, last sentence.

 

[human]

I got the same thing on my FB and I thought it was really cute

 

[ScotAng]

BBM: It is probably from the first document dump where it was noted that MS sent a "lengthy Facebook post to CWW about divorce." However, later documents show that the "lengthy post" was a type of meme share post. It was a joke or meant to be one. It wasn't at all personal.

It's here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8c2wwajhOX1c0b00/view Bates 53 - third paragraph, last sentence.

That makes most sense.

Reading the Affidavit again, (#53, last paragraph). Where it says MS documented divorce talk and TS confided in a friend about it, is where the "both parties" info will have been ascertained.

It also reminded me they dug into CWW and MS's communications as far back as 2011. The work LE has put into this investigation is incredible. Amazing what you forget!

 

[ScotAng]

I got the same thing on my FB and I thought it was really cute

I remember it doing the rounds a year or two ago. It was cute, though it's more than obvious it's a joke. I think we'll find out later what MS did exactly 'document' re divorce, as it can't be that.

 

[FelicityLemon]

About the divorce discussion between TS and MS - I don't think that article statement has to do with that joke from facebook specifically, but other than 1) the timing, 2) that because of MS selective and self-serving diary entries, we haven't seen any evidence of divorce discussion before this. I do believe there may be some evidence of divorce discussion in texting that we haven't seen yet and possibly in the diary entries that are blanked out. We know some are, because of the size of the field compared to other diary entries. There are also many, many texts between TS and MS that aren't in Batch 6. Given how prolific MS was, there's no way they had 12 hours of radio silence after a sex-romp with another woman while TS was out of town. To me, this particular exchange was pure bull and MS was was texting himself on a third cellphone spoofed as TS to make it appear to his sexbuddy that TS was giving the go-ahead. I also think it's baloney given that it shows TS texting randomly until 4am? No, I don't believe it.

I could be wrong, but I also think that two of the women we see (via Batch 6) having sex with MS are both women that the Sievers loaned money to. Vulnerable women, one of them potentially susceptible to manipulation and subtle intimidation (but only for one of them, the other was completely enthusiastic)


I think MS sent the joke to TS and CWW *after* TS brought up the subject of divorce to MS during discussions that we haven't seen yet. We have seen in MS diary where TS

April 25, 2015: MS diary entry - Bates 36845 "Teresa and I just had a talk" and it's a very long entry that's been blanked out to our view.
-------- it would be interesting to see not only what that said, but if it was one of the deleted entries that was resurrected by LE. It could be a fake entry or it could be true, but totally unrelated to divorce

May 2, 2015: MS at CWW/AW wedding

May 24, 2015: MS text divorce joke to TS - Bates 37756

 

[FelicityLemon]

That makes most sense.

Reading the Affidavit again, (#53, last paragraph). Where it says MS documented divorce talk and TS confided in a friend about it, is where the "both parties" info will have been ascertained.

It also reminded me they dug into CWW and MS's communications as far back as 2011. The work LE has put into this investigation is incredible. Amazing what you forget!

bbm

Ahh, thank you for this! I didn't read before I posted (*sigh). I've been so focused on Batch 6 that I really had forgotten about the Affidavits! :shame: :banghead:



And yep! I agree with you about LE thoroughness and it's awesome.

 

[mckazpm]

Hi All Spent the past 2 weeks visiting on Jarvis. Have not had time to keep up with all the great info on WS's, but just in case no one has conveyed the shape this property is now in...omg!!! When I was there in September it glowed from afar with all of the lighting outside, this time it is just heart wrenching. It's all overtaken by large weeds and long grass...garbage cans strewn all over. The gate finally blew completely off when I was visiting and you can see a lawnmower, gas can, kids bicycles... all buried in tall weeds. A dim light comes on at night from inside, but that's it. Still has blue lights up from Christmas time and "no trespassing" signs with weeds up to top of mailbox. It's all just very overwhelming to see. Sometime around Memorial Day, there was a red car that went into the garage, therefore, there is still power going to the home. Within a couple of days, there were several cars in the driveway and the people there were dressed in business attire.

If I'm duplicating things that have already been noted, my apologies!

Neighborhood is back to normal. First thing I noticed was kids playing outside again

 

[ScotAng]

bbm

Ahh, thank you for this! I didn't read before I posted (*sigh). I've been so focused on Batch 6 that I really had forgotten about the Affidavits! :shame: :banghead:



And yep! I agree with you about LE thoroughness and it's awesome.

<bbm> And why I'm still toiling with the same batch as I can't stick in one place. SurfieTX posted the link to the Affidavit and I re-read that.

Through something I read in the Affidavit, I went back to watch/listen to a couple of interviews - that turned into a couple of hours! Yet now I don't recall why I initially did that, as my notes make no sense. All I see are arrows and initials, and nearly all ending in S. BS. Time for bed I think.

 

[msboo]

Hey mckazpm.... nice to see you back here!

Sorry to hear the Sievers yard remains unkempt. I'm surprised the city hasn't been out there unless no one has called. I saw on www.cityofbonitasprings.org the Code Violations, includes all you & others have described. I couldn't find exactly what they do (when in violation) but the phone number for reporting violations is 239-949-6257. Within Violations---grass & weeds over 16 inches in height, trash, debris & junk in yard (lawnmower, gas can & bikes), all structures must be maintained (fence gate torn off), etc.

Those people in business attire could've been lender reps or realtors OR both (realtors who work for/help banks sell such property quickly), depends on what's going on with all financial/legal status. I would think more 'foreclosure' but who knows.

Neighbors can call or email to report violations.

 

[msboo]

YES, BIG THANKS to SurfieTX for posting the Affidavit link! Great to read that now after going thru various doc evidence over time---so much back & forth, seemingly disconnected entries, etc. This was a great "refresher", helped me to recall & connect things. Lots of 'Ah' and 'oh yeah' moments.

Ok.... now isn't it 5 o'clock somewhere?

 

[mckazpm]

Hey mckazpm.... nice to see you back here!

Sorry to hear the Sievers yard remains unkempt. I'm surprised the city hasn't been out there unless no one has called. I saw on www.cityofbonitasprings.org the Code Violations, includes all you & others have described. I couldn't find exactly what they do (when in violation) but the phone number for reporting violations is 239-949-6257. Within Violations---grass & weeds over 16 inches in height, trash, debris & junk in yard (lawnmower, gas can & bikes), all structures must be maintained (fence gate torn off), etc.

Those people in business attire could've been lender reps or realtors OR both (realtors who work for/help banks sell such property quickly), depends on what's going on with all financial/legal status. I would think more 'foreclosure' but who knows.

Neighbors can call or email to report violations.

It has been reported previously and still nothing. Thanks for checking into Would still rather have mega weeds than Mark!! Thanks!!!!

 

[FelicityLemon]

It has been reported previously and still nothing. Thanks for checking into Would still rather have mega weeds than Mark!! Thanks!!!!

:silly: "Would rather have weeds than mark" :goodpost:

 

[fldigger]

I may do a drive by and take some pics when I get back to Bonita...at some point it will be foreclosed. History will show that banks don't do a good job of "dressing" their foreclosed properties.