NOTGUILTY South Africa - Anni Dewani, 28, shot to death, Gugulethu, 13 Nov 2010 #5

[PrimeSuspect]

Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 3m3 minutes ago

PB: where would you typically sample for residue?

TM: In the web, between the thumb and the index finger.

Traverso: Why?

TM: Because that's the area closest to the firearm.

 

[zwiebel]

Leila Samodien ‏@Leila_Luck 1 min1 minute ago

#DewaniTrial Mlabateki agrees that secondary transfer of primer residue (eg.handling firearm after shot) not possible if Qwabe telling truth

 

[KING Charles]

I agree, all time wasting. Let's get S.D. up for questioning. Re: Prime suspects post.

 

[zwiebel]

Dewani Trial ‏@DewaniTrial 3 mins3 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial Botha: surely it must be one of the possibilities that the person fired the gun? TM: person was within shooting environment.

 

[zwiebel]

AHIMA ESSOP ‏@rahimaessop 3 mins3 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial Botha: then why did you list it as a likely cause in your report(that person fired gun)? TM: in enclosed area...

 

[zwiebel]

RAHIMA ESSOP ‏@rahimaessop 3 mins3 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial TM: chances we all test positive are very high. RE

 

[zwiebel]

RAHIMA ESSOP ‏@rahimaessop 2 mins2 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial Botha now reading her testimony from another trial. "Primer residue normally found between fore finger and thumb"

 

[zwiebel]

RAHIMA ESSOP ‏@rahimaessop 2 mins2 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial Botha: why would you expect to find it there? TM: closes to firearm, gun has openings likely to find particles. RE

 

[zwiebel]

vanessa poonah ‏@vanessapoonah01 1 min1 minute ago

#DewaniTrial PB: if primer residue is present on body of person, does not mean conclusively that that person did fire the firearm?#sabcnews

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 38s38 seconds ago

PB: If primer residue is present on the body of a person, that does not conclusively mean that that person discharged a firearm. Do you agree with me?

TM: Correct.

PB: It's only one of the possibilities.

TM: Correct.

PB: But now we go to a place where the police look for residue, does this not mean that the person probably fired the firearm.

TM: The first answer still stands

PB: Even with the web area?

TM: That's correct

 

[zwiebel]

RAHIMA ESSOP ‏@rahimaessop 2 mins2 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial TM: correct. Botha: now if we look at web area of hands. TM: no difference. RE

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Leigh-Anne Jansen ‏@LA_JANSEN 2m2 minutes ago

Traverso tries to clarify some points, saying she knows nothing about ballistics.

 

[zwiebel]

RAHIMA ESSOP ‏@rahimaessop 1 min1 minute ago

#DewaniTrial Judge:assume we have two people,one tests positive on his arm,the other test positive in web area,you draw same conclusions?

 

[zwiebel]

I quite like that question from the judge, which is to the point.

 

[zwiebel]

RAHIMA ESSOP ‏@rahimaessop 2 mins2 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial TM:That is correct, but sample is usually taken from web area. RE

 

[zwiebel]

vanessa poonah ‏@vanessapoonah01 4 mins4 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial Shrien Dewani looking confused at col TM's answers under cross exam.#sabcnews

 

[zwiebel]

RAHIMA ESSOP ‏@rahimaessop 2 mins2 minutes ago

#DewaniTrial Botha: how does primer residue land on web area of non-shooter? TM: gasses that are formed, they settled on all exposed areas.

 

[zwiebel]

This sounds unlikely to me, that a person who did not fire a weapon would get residue on web between finger and thumb, just where you'd get it if you had fired?

 

[zwiebel]

Ha! I'm not the only one thinking that....

RAHIMA ESSOP ‏@rahimaessop 1 min1 minute ago

#DewaniTrial Judge shakes her head. Appears perplexed by expert's reluctance to say a shooter will most likely test positive in web area

 

[zwiebel]

Leila Samodien ‏@Leila_Luck 26 secs27 seconds ago

#DewaniTrial Mlabateki: If 2 people in confines of a car & 1 fires shot, it's as likely non-shooter will have residue in web area of hand.

?????Can above REALLY be true?