State rests rebuttal case- thread #163

[pferrin]

I'm more concerned about a juror "being under the influence" during deliberation which can cause distortions and not able to process properly during deliberation.

I wouldn't have a problem deliberating even if I was drunk as Charlie Sheen appears to get. The big G for guilty.

 

[StephanieHartPI]

Kinda wondering about this post Travis posted Jodi's MySpace... was this pre May25th/08. Anyone know?

"I wonder how much you raise the hotness level of Yreka all by yourself, factoring in its per capita hot stats before you came, I am sure it has raised exponentially."

Since she had his passwords to Facebook and MySpace, I look at all the posts with a suspicious eye.

She hacked his personal network sites and that was part of the last very bad fight. He realized she did that. So I can't tell what he posted and what she posted pretending to be him?

After he died during those few days, or really that day or the next, she had the ability to go into his MySpace and Facebook and Edit a comment from any week prior, and he was dead, so who is he to argue? I have a feeling she did that after he died... sick, just sick

 

[Mellinyce]

May I ask why that date and time? Thank you

she slaughtered TA on June 4th at approx. 5:40 pm.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

The false and defamatory things that have been said about this man take up an entire notebook. The blatant clear proof that none of it was true should anger any Jury. Just not finding *advertiser censored* on a computer/phone or the history, cache is so incredibly damaging to her. It's virtually impossible to clean that off your computer, you just can't.

We had to hear about her life from birth on and how put upon she has been.. And him? They summed up his life in one recorded call he was lured into making and a couple texts.

His life was more than those few things. I'm sending good vibes to the jury that they just use common sense as someone on TV said.. Just use your common sense about what happened here.

Both of the defense experts should be made to publicly apologize by their licensing boards for the fictional filth they intentionally promulgated.

 

[GoAskAllie]

What a minute...

I just of something.

In Jodi's last MySpace profile pic, wasn't she a brunette? :what:

It's a sepia-toned photo, so it's hard to tell her exact hair color--though it does look brown, certainly not the white blonde hair she favored during the early days of PrePaid Legal. Jodi wasn't arrested until July 15 so she had plenty of time to change her profile pic, upload a photo tribute to Travis on June 13, and post other pics.

 

[luv]

Jodi Arias trial: Daniel Freeman, friend of Arias and Alexander speaks out

“To me, I see someone who was a good man being dragged through the mud. We all have our weaknesses; we all have the things in our lives that we struggle with that are vices and it's not often that we have all our vices and dirty laundry dragged out for the whole world to see.”

“I don't believe her story. He (Travis) was murdered.”

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...eman-friend-of-arias-and-alexander-speaks-out


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[wasnt_me]

May I ask why that date and time? Thank you

I'm estimating that's about the time Travis was dead 5 years ago, and him getting justice on that anniversary at about that time sounds sweet to me.

 

[wasnt_me]

Since she had his passwords to Facebook and MySpace, I look at all the posts with a suspicious eye.

She hacked his personal network sites and that was part of the last very bad fight. He realized she did that. So I can't tell what he posted and what she posted pretending to be him?

After he died during those few days, or really that day or the next, she had the ability to go into his MySpace and Facebook and Edit a comment from any week prior, and he was dead, so who is he to argue? I have a feeling she did that after he died... sick, just sick

If she could edit comments, there wouldn't be record of that with date and time for the police to verify?

 

[StephanieHartPI]

If she could edit comments, there wouldn't be record of that with date and time for the police to verify?

On FB I think the Edit feature came after 2008. MySpace I don't know.. She may have just logged in and written that!

And knew he would see it? It may have been an attempt to anger Mimi, or cause trouble with Mimi right before the trip.

I'm convinced there is so much more she is holding back that she did... It won't bring him back. But I think we only see the surface of what she did to him over time...and we have no idea what other things she did to men we just won't find out about.

 

[anagrammy]

BBM .. Makes one wonder if the exact questions were posed to her once again, would the story be the same? It's very easy to repeat the truth .. but lies are much more difficult to repeat. Just a thought.

Which is an excellent point and EXACTLY why the legal system includes depositions.

 

[PrincessSezMe]

Night time here (have to do some things yet).

Sweet Dreams.... :hills:

:countsheep:

The creepy twins from the Shining :floorlaugh:, love it!

Sweet dreams Rose. See ya tomorrow.

 

[tomato]

Jodi Arias trial: Daniel Freeman, friend of Arias and Alexander speaks out



http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...eman-friend-of-arias-and-alexander-speaks-out


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When I watched his testimony, I know Freeman is a good and honest guy.

 

[KandyKane]

http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2013...ander-10-critical-crime-scene-evidence-photos

Photo of Travis with blood in neck area. No way his throat has been slit at this point because it would render his head position in this photo impossible. ME even testified to this yesterday without realizing it. I do not believe Travis was shot first,but I do believe his throat was not slit until she got him back in bathroom area. Her intent was to dismember him. She soon realized this was impossible, more than likely after she took a breather, realized how time consuming and strenuous that was going to be and noticed how much blood Travis had gotten on carpet,nothing something she could clean up.

Sorry for typos working on an iPad.

It's obvious that the amount of running blood from his neck down his back and pooling on the carpet that his throat was slit at that point. His head and arm being up off the floor is likely because this photo was taken just at the point of her slitting his throat. I believe his head is up off the floor while he was having his throat slit because he was already unconscious at that time or nearly so, and Jodi was holding his head still by his hair in order to cut his throat. I would think in cutting someone's throat one would need to hold their head still if they were unconcious or nearly so or the neck would tend to roll around in the same direction as the knife cutting. Also, in order to slice someone throat while they are on their side with their head on the ground the head would need to be lifted up so that the ground wasn't in the way of the tip section of the knife.

Of course the ME is correct that Travis would not have been able to hold up his own head after the throat cutting especially since it was such a deep wound that it went all the way through to his spinal column. Given the amount of blood running down over his shoulder and pooling on the carpet though indicates that his throat had either just been cut or was in the process of being cut when that photo was taken, and his head is still up off the floor because Jodi had grabbed him by the hair and lifted it off the floor in order to hold his head still and allow room for the tip area of the knife whithout the floor being in the way of it.

His arm being up in that photo could be because it was resting against the wall being held in that position without his own effort or that the photo was taken just as his throat was in the process of being cut and he was concious at that moment and attempting to stop the knife. I really think that he was not concious or very nearly unconcious while his throat was being slit and just hate the idea that he might have still have been conscious then and enough so that he was aware of what was happening and could feel it. I really hope that at that moment he was entirely unconscious and was not aware or could feel his throat being sliced and that his arm was held up either because of a convulsion or it was resting against the wall in that position all on its own accord.

In any case, the blood from the neck flowing down over his shoulder is proof enough that his throat had either just been slit or was in the process to a point where all that blood had the time to flow out and all the way down his shoulder to start pooling on the floor. I don't believe that in either case he was holding up his head through his own effort though, and Jodi was holding it up herself to accomplish the throat slitting to keep his head still and up off the floor, and the photo was taken just before she dropped his head back down. It is so terribly chilling that this photo just happened to have been taken either just as she completed cutting his throat or was far enough in the process of doing it to have all that blood flow.

Of all the times during the process of her stabbing him, his crawling down the hall while still being stabbed, etc. that this photo happened to have been taken at the very moment of his throat being cut is just so ironic and so chilling. I like to think that some higher power had a hand in that so that this very moment could be preserved for the world to see the true evil of the vile person that did such a foul deed. And I truly do hope that such a higher power also rendered Travis unconcious at that moment so that he would have been unaware of what was happening and unable to feel it.

 

[PrincessSezMe]

May I ask why that date and time? Thank you

Travis was murdered on June 4, 2008 around 5:40 p.m.

 

[Tsunvirtual]

I am going to complain to them through their "contact us" feature.....I don't care for this one bit.

Wait -- Is it possible they have to wait for a conviction because of the presumption of innocence? Not trying to be snarky, it just occurred to me that Son of Sam -style barring of profit from murder would not kick in until a guilty verdict was rendered.

While it's possible they technically want to wait for a conviction according to her tweets ebay was no longer allowing her art to be sold. I have already reported the current listing at least as an attempt to get it taken down.

 

[kaydono]

I just watched the Team Travis video. I had to wait till the end of my night cuz I knew what my reaction would be, and I'm there right now....
I have so so many thoughts running through my mind and so so many emotions.
I can't let myself go where I am I tonight, very often. It's just too much.
What I want to send out to the Universe is this....
Travis Victor Alexander, I would have been proud to be your Mom.
To all of the Alexander children, I would have been proud to have called you mine.
JA, I would work OT and sacrifice things in my life to be able to fly there and hit the button that loads the syringes. I have never ever felt this much loathing for another human being. But you, JA are NOT human. And you deserve all that hell can heap on you.
Sorry, all, but I could sit there are stare into her eyes as they are waiting for the injections to hit. Its not like me to feel this way, but it is what it is.
My heart is broken, like all of you. It's just tonight I allowed myself to go there. Tomorrow I won't. I can't. But every few days, I have to, to let it seep back in, and then blast it out.
We've seen goodness, in Travis, his family and those heroes, JM and Det. Flores....and we've seen EVIL. I won't even type out their names.
I understand having to represent a client, but in the name of all that is holy, how can you do what you've done to trash precious Travis?
Okay, I'm heading to bed. I have my Kleenex and lots of prayers to say.
Thank you all for letting me share, vent and cry here.
You all are very very special to me too

I am so sorry to hear that you are having such a rough time. We all recognize that if we accidentally wounded someone, whether it was a stranger, or someone we know, we would be overcome with GUILT. Seeing someone commit an act so similar to what a wild grizzly bear in the woods would do to a human being that has invaded its domain is something our minds cannot fully grasp. Her lack of remorse just fuels our confusion and anger. I wish I could give you a magic cure for the pain you are currently experiencing, but I am clueless as to how to go about minimizing my own. We need to use the apparent coping mechanism that the Alexanders are utilizing. Band together, and find strength in one another. I hope you sleep well. Just know that you are not alone in your anguish.

 

[ElleElle]

:seeya: Thanks... I believe awhile back TruthDetector put this one up.

It gives visual of the layout. There is no way that Jodi ran down the hall and into the closet with Travis chasing her.

Presuming he chased her, he would of taken the entrance of the closet from the bathroom.

I posted this earlier -- but will post again for those that may have missed it.


Here is a Link to a 3D interactive view of TA home (the Crime Scene).
http://www.travisalexandercrimescene3d.com/



I agree with your view as to how i ALSO believe it happened.

One thing, I do not believe there was fight over dropping the camera, I think JA just started to stab him. MOO

 

[ElleElle]

Fatal Exposure By Shanna Hogan

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[ElleElle]

Unless her cashflow from her "fine art" will pay AZ state's $1.6 million dollar (and climbing) bill.

While it's possible they technically want to wait for a conviction according to her tweets ebay was no longer allowing her art to be sold. I have already reported the current listing at least as an attempt to get it taken down.

 

[GoAskAllie]

Jodi Arias trial: Daniel Freeman, friend of Arias and Alexander speaks out




http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...eman-friend-of-arias-and-alexander-speaks-out


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Interesting that Dan Freeman had no idea until he was on the stand that Jodi's defense was self-defense built around destroying Travis's character and reputation. I found him to be forthright, credible, and likable. Although technically a defense witness, JM's cross served to reframe Dan's testimony into something more favorable to the State/Travis. Thank goodness. Didn't care too much for his sister Desiree. It may have been nerves, but I thought she came across a bit flat on the stand and had memory issues during Juan's cross.