State rests rebuttal case - thread #167

[lil_buddy]

I've got a hungry, hungry, hungry hippo campus.
Need b-fast now.

 

[AnonymousD]

Chris Williams@chriswnews

#JodiArias judge says there'll be a break in five minutes so Juan Martinez can look at an exhibit #Arias atty just tried to enter

 

[luvtenniss]

This guy isn't getting paid? Is he being blackmailed?

Amen! There has to be some catch!!

 

[LadyEdith]

My hypothesis would passive aggressive, listening to this guy's method.

My hypothesis is CYA, HAIL Mary, Blitz, from DT.

 

[SusieD]

This is SO ********, because Martinez has NO time to research the crap from this shrink.

The judge should not have allowed this!!!

Jodi is in JAIL...these tests should not be valid for people in jail!! Of course she was anxious!!

He'll do just fine. JM creates some sort of comprehensive outline in his head as it's going along, he'll have no problem.

And he does know all the court sanctioned stuff, that would make a difference to me as a juror, that courts have determined he's a sham

 

[Curious Me]

Dr. Geffner has to put the pieces of the puzzle together to explore further.

One and a half hours of boredom so far. This testimony is not even making sense to me.
Too much use of the word hypothesis!

 

[Horace Finklestein]

A 10 minute break? Good lord

 

[BeachGirlFromPA]

I'm off to fertilize.

No need to go anywhere for your supply.... I'm just sayin.....:floorlaugh:

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Everytime I go there it says 500 Internal Error.

Try again - I had trouble at first, too, but I'm on now

 

[elementary]

"Anxiety trauma". Bingo! He said it.

 

[Maryann123]

Could someone/would someone post what is being said (the best they can)? I'm having trouble with my speakers this morning and can't hear.

Thanks so much!

Salem

Admit it, you turned the volume off....didn't you, yes or no? You just can't take those voices coming out of the computer, right?

 

[GoAskAllie]

Geffner says there's no such thing as a floating profile.

He implies that JA was not smart enough to fool the tests' validity detection mechanisms.

I wonder, were her scores so high in some areas, and low in others, because she was able to manipulate the test?

And Geffner is so biased as to the 'perfect integrity' of the tests that he cannot allow for a master manipulator such as Jodi.

Having fooled mercenaries such as Samuels and ALV, JA has now sucked in Geffner.

Reason?

These 'experts' so trust the tests that they cannot suspect the respondent of rigging the results.

Wrong!

And now, he's giving the jury false information, perhaps doing so unintentionally.

I would like to know his personal opinion regarding the death penalty.

She was high in verbal (136), so to average 119 across four domains, then you know that she scored significantly lower in one or more of the remaining areas.

 

[Truth Detector]

10-minute break now -- oughta be good for at least 25.

 

[kaRN]

I agree with Jodi having ,low self esteem. I myself hold her in very low esteem.

 

[wenwe4]

Floating profile term was not used by MMPI people but one practictioner said he saw floating profiles in borderline personality disorder . . . later research showed not borderline but more people who are experiencing physical pain or disability.

he never trained on floating profile - no research had been done . .. in 2008 the term was stopped being used.

code type - research indicates relationship between scales and someone's personaltiy. . . have 1 or 2 or 3 scales elevated but more difficult to do if several scales elevated.

personality aggressive, hostile, holds emotions inside?
those are working hypothesis . . .. maybe we have someone with borderline personlatiy or someone hostile and aggressive - then you look @ next scale to use a test like this.

several other show the subscales. . . page 5 - scales of content scales.

see @ bottom terms define differnet things . . . anx = anxiety . . .. . normal 50, clinical cut off 65, if we had example person was hostile, controlling or aggressive then look @ these scales might be correct or not - if not check out other hypothesis.

hypothesis of aggressive, defensive ..

ang = anger - right in mid normal range - even though person might get angry that is not part of their personaltiy

asp - anti-social personality = in the normal range

pg 6 hypothesis of anger and aggression = 3 scales here - the DO = dominence, way below average so it is likely opposite that person being dominent they are more passive or submissive.

hostile person is roughly average . . . oH is over hostility - keep inside trying to control it . . . 3 scales on this subscale to look @ for hypothesis.

aggression and hostility
first scale aggressive personality scale - siginifcant below average - this personality trait is actually more submissive and passive but they can become aggressive = but not part personality.

if low scales = not a good hypothesis to have and need to look @ another hypothesis.

they were involved in relationship . . . PTSD scales?
yes flip back to pg 5

traumatized, ptsd, victim of trauma or anxiety scale - significantly elevated here.

another would be self-esteem....hypothesis if someone in abusive relationship it might lower their self esteem. . .. . this person does have lower self esteem that is healthy or normal.

pg 6 supplemental scales. . .
a measures anxiety . .. another way to measure . . .significant elevation again using working hypothesis if someone from abusive relationship . . . they are not controlling they are going to be more submissive in relationship.

es = ego strength - not only self image and self esteem but how you feel about yourself overall....people who suffer PTSD often feel alot of internalized blame and lowers ego-strength. another red flag for working hypothesis of traumatized or abusive relationshp

r means repression - somone trying to block out specifiic events memories . . not clinical significant but elevated.

research MMPI not on it's own but can give you working hypothesis . .. . the PTSD was actually the highest scale - a working hypothesis needs to be explored further. . . .

it is not appropriate to take any one test and make a diagnosis based on that. . . other tests interviews, collaterals, all other informtion available.

fears - another one . . . . he is reviewing his own copy helps to see it there.

JM will get to see witness notes during break in about 5 min.

FRS not in clinical range but elevated.....
we are looking at things might contradict . . . if way below average . .

when you don't have consistent results you can discard it or you can go further.

significant elevations . . . diagnostic means look @ this like a jigsaw puzzle . . . need all the pieces to fit together . . .can't throw out a piece . . . . have to figure out how all these pieces fit together.

not something i would harp on or go over board on . . . some consistent finidngs need to be explored - anxiety and trauma.

MMPI 2 diagnosing borderline can only be used asa working hypothesis . . .. if you think you have a borderline . . .this test is not to measure personality disorders . . just designed to overall personalty traits.

the test to look @ Milan . . . MCMI - that is test that is specifically desinged to look @ personality disorders.

break for 10 min - back @ 10:45
counsel approach

 

[NotMyselfNEMore]

What is Dr G forming his hypotheses on? Are he and Willmott reviewing the two specific scales that DrDeM stated she ruled out as they had very little empirical research to back them up? And that it was standard practice to focus on a the most relevant and researched results, and to rule out the experimental scales?

 

[ToothPickle Sticks]

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
Judge said we are going to take a break in about 5 minutes. Dr. G needs to mark up the scales rather than point on the screen. #JodiArias
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I don't see any note taking from the jurors at the moment. #JodiArias
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Juan takes notes and flips through the pages of scales as Dr. G continues on. #JodiArias

BBM WOW I've never seen him take notes!

 

[DairyGirl]

I have to say I like this guy better then the other witnesses who were obviously bias and defensive. I may not like or agree with what he says but at least he's being a professional.

 

[wsreader]

Going through JAs mind:
When is he going to say I'm a talented artist?
When is he going to talk about me being a professional photographer?
When are they going to put pictures of me on the big screen?
How long until they talk about how smart I am?
Why haven't they mentioned my fabricated stories about Travis?
Wish I had a strawberry frappuccino...

 

[basilcat]

I'm off to fertilize.

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh: hey my cat just finished doing the same thing! :floorlaugh::floorlaugh: