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Should a person be judged on something done over 40 years ago?

  • Yes

    Votes: 59 39.1%
  • No

    Votes: 17 11.3%
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    Votes: 75 49.7%

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I personally have not been accused of anything untrue (other than minor household issues that are no biggie. I did not leave the cap off the milk container!).

But, I am close to someone who was accused of something at work (not sex related) that was completely and utterly false. Everyone knew it was false, but the process needed to take place once an allegation was made. There was an investigation and the accusations were dismissed (and the accuser was actually fired). What I witnessed was how the falsely accused person reacted. The reaction was professional, calm, controlled, patient. The accused was innocent and behaved with that knowledge. I witnessed no lashing out (at least in public; can't speak to private behavior), no yelling, no tantrums. I witnessed a reaction from someone who is centered, grounded, mature. It's entirely possible to be angry and not act like a spoiled child.

And, yes, I agree that being falsely accused changes a person. I witnessed that as well. It's horrible to be falsely accused.

jmo

are you certain about the milk??

Might it have been a mustard top?

Are you making this up as a protest against the milk producers?

Can you explain why someone wrote a book about you called "The absent minded milk consumer"

Can you explain why many friends have reported that you frequently left caps of any kind on their counter while you were a guest?

WHy does your yearbook have more than one reference to the caps on bottled substances?

Can you explain why you don't want witnesses the night you left off the cap to share their memories?

Can you explain why several of your good friends have bottle caps in their shorts pockets?

Can you explain your behaviors , that resembled a temper tantrum yesterday when discussing bottle caps?
 
Republican senators like John Cornyn don't look good when they smear Stormy Daniels (or Michael Avenatti) Trump is one who had sex with Stormy just after his wife gave birth and between affair with Karen McDougal, then conspired to cover it up with campaign funds. Women are sick of this double standard.
 
are you certain about the milk??

Might it have been a mustard top?

Are you making this up as a protest against the milk producers?

Can you explain why someone wrote a book about you called "The absent minded milk consumer"

Can you explain why many friends have reported that you frequently left caps of any kind on their counter while you were a guest?

WHy does your yearbook have more than one reference to the caps on bottled substances?

Can you explain why you don't want witnesses the night you left off the cap to share their memories?

Can you explain why several of your good friends have bottle caps in their shorts pockets?

Taking another sip from my cafe con leche and say: Cariis, I love you, man. (And that's not just the milk talking).

jmo
 
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Whitehouse just used his calendar and it says everything Ford said for that day

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

unless something else crazy happens

the calendar is gonna be the takeaway clip of the day ! WOW

oh my god Gassy apparently is snacking on peanuts on camera --
 
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I guess I speed read through your post last night and also missed the context, my fault for not going back to previous postings.
I’m so sorry for what you went through and wish you all the best. (Hugs)

No worries, and hugs to you too. :)

I actually did, a little while earlier , call a rape crisis hotline to tell everything that happened, every single thing, for the first last and only time, over 40 years later.

To other rape survivors who have never told or only partly told , I highly recommend making that call. I feel wiped out emotionally, but definitely, absolutely LIGHTER. And relieved.

Signing off and away from the upsetting farce unfolding, holding onto the lighter & relieved. :)
 
For me the defining moment yesterday was when he tried to question the Democrats about THEIR drinking. Especially Amy Klobachar- her father suffered from alcoholic abuse and I' m sure he'd been briefed on that. The look on his face was frightening. Angry, smug, entitled, mocking.

America is caught up in the cult of Trump.
 
That isn't accurate. There were many women, especially, including pro-trumpers, who said afterwards that they thought Dr. Blasey was credible, and that they believed her. In my post you link to, I said that even trump thought she was credible.

The logical problem for those who believed her, even when they didn't want or expect to, was where to go from there. Some said they believed her, but also believed she was part of a conspiracy to bring K down. Others said they believed her but didn't think that K should be held accountable for something he had done 36 years ago, when he was a teenager. Others didn't even bother to try to reconcile believing her but also believing K's flat out denial it ever happened.

Many believe- despite their political ideology- that the most obvious way to reconcile believing her and believing him is that K did exactly what she claimed, but that he was too drunk to remember that he had in fact attacked her. And, BTW, that K responded so angrily to questions about his drinking BECAUSE he knew his excessive drinking made her claims entirely plausible, even slam dunk believable.

As for opinions expressed here. This is a political thread, with folks expressing political opinions, which in my experience, makes many WSers very uncomfortable. Even if the pattern of opinions expressed here entirely lined up with what you call confirmation bias (and they don't), that would be expected, given the self selection of those posting here in a political thread.

If, theoretically, you were to ask that question on a trial thread, I am 100% certain you would get a response that might surprise you, it would seem.

For example, in the Arias trial, many responded with great anger & contempt when she claimed to be a DV victim, and those with the greatest anger were often those who were DV survivors who knew she was lying because they knew nothing she said about bring abused rang true. At all.

There are a lot of rape survivors here on WS, as there are everywhere. As one myself, I can tell you that I believed Dr. Blasey not because of my political beliefs, but because the story she told of her assault rang absolutely true, as did her telling of it, as did her telling of it after
so long, as did the trauma she said she experienced, most severely for the next 4 years.

She would not forget the face or name of the man who assaulted her. Her girlfriend said she didn't remember that get together. Why would she? As stated, nothing remarkable happened to her , on a night that wasn't remarkable to begin with . She also, btw, says she believes Dr. Blasey.

Same with PJ as to unremarkable, but also that he didn't want to be called as a witness or questioned any further.

Then we have Judge, for whom the night was clearly remarkable, if Blasey is to be believed. If you were Judge, wouldn't you DEMAND to be heard, in order to clear your friend's name? Why would you instead refuse to be put under oath and flee?

More than anything else other than K's refusal to agree to a FBi investigation, it is Judge's cowardly silence and flight that negates the constant and disingenuous claim that her account can't be corroborated. Nonsense.

Ok, I disagree wholeheartedly. Please refer to specific examples of Pro-Trumpers who believe K is guilty of sexual assault or vice versa.

Do you not agree that at the very least, the vast majority (on both sides) are just falling in line with their political affiliation? It is certainly the case here. probably close to 100%

Let’s see what happens the next time, the next accusation of a political type candidate, both sides will have an opinion that is exact opposite of how they view these types of allegations today.

WE all must be very careful that WE do not allow allegations of any kind, whether sexual or other criminal, to become weaponized.

If allegations alone can put a halt on a Supreme Court nomination. WE are all in for a ride.
 
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Whether one considered him suited or unsuited for the job before this, has nothing to do with if one believes whether or not he sexually assaulted anyone.
That is not the question.

I am looking to see if there is anyone out there anywhere who holds a view that is in conflict with their opinion about POTUS.

So far, it does not appear that there is, not just here at websleuths, but anywhere. On both sides of this debate, everybody everywhere including the Senate committee are basing their opinion of a sexual assault allegation totally in line with their opinion of POTUS. Both sides.

Confirmation bias at its finest, in full effect. And it appears nobody even realizes it.

I had missed a good part of Kavanaughs testimony until this morning, just finished the rest of it. As you might know I lean towards the right. Although I can’t say I fully believe Dr. Blassey-Ford’s allegations , I also didn’t find Kavanaugh to be as credible as I previously thought before seeing most of his testimony.

In spite of the fact that, IMO, the Dems didn’t handle the information properly by sitting on it instead of turning it over for investigation before waiting til the last hour, I think it would have been best that his nomination not be pushed through. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Why is it so important to have Kavanaugh, aren’t there others just as qualified?
Or, they could... and I can’t believe I’m saying this .... do what the Dems are asking and subpoena the witnesses to testify before Congress. I don’t know if the FBI would help matters any anyway.
I can fully understand Kavanaughs anger and frustration with what’s happened to him and his family. But as sincere and genuine as he seemed at times, there are times he seemed evasive and not fully truthful, IMO. So, in what I suppose is a contradiction to my earlier post, I don’t at this point feel comfortable with his nomination.
 
"I'm officially enamored with Corey Booker and Kamala Harris."

Yup, me too, especially Kamala. Man, is she strong, solid and to-the-point!? Her questions were straightforward and she expected straighforward replies. She didn't always receive them.

Does anyone know who was the senator who said her father was in his 90s and in AA? I missed it. TIA.
 
For me the defining moment yesterday was when he tried to question the Democrats about THEIR drinking. Especially Amy Klobachar- her father suffered from alcoholic abuse and I' m sure he'd been briefed on that. The look on his face was frightening. Angry, smug, entitled, mocking.

America is caught up in the cult of Trump.



Had to laugh about him avoiding answering questions about being a party animal with he made good grades, went to church, played sports as if the two are mutually exclusive.

Most all prep school partiers do their homework before they raid the liquor cabinet then just like Dad no matter how hung over you get up and go to work, church in the morning.

That is how you grow up to be able to afford to join an exclusive club so you can carouse like a pig and make backroom deals in private with your old buds.

What does he think no one but him went to prep school or does he think the prep school code is going to protect him all the way to the top?




all imo and experience
 
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I'm biased about his views on my reproductive rights. As long as Kavanaugh is against abortion I'm against him. Accusations of attempted rape make me feel more strongly that he should stay away from my uterus.

I am with you that this man didn’t and doesn’t appear to be someone I would want (if I were American) on SCOTUS.

However, that is a complete and separate issue from these allegations.
The question at hand, is whether or not these allegations should be factored into the decision.

Put someone you really admire in K’s seat. Would these allegations suffice to make him ineligible for the highest judgeship in the land?

These are extremely important positions with respect to the quality and type of life you wish to live.
 
Apologies if already posted. Discussion of his calendar.

Analysis | Kavanaugh is pressed on the key July 1 entry in his calendar. But only to a point.

We noted Thursday, too, that the time frame of this July 1 party fits with Ford’s testimony. She says that six to eight weeks after the alleged assault, she saw Judge working at a store in the area. Judge’s book indicates that he was working at that store for several weeks in early to mid-August.

This is a central point to Ford’s allegation. Kavanaugh denies knowing her, denies being at a party with her. Here is an event in July where he was with several long-standing friends, two of whom were named by Ford and one of whom she’d been going out with.
 
He said versus she said regarding an incident from HS. She can't remember where or when? I thought a person was innocent UNTIL proven guilty. There actually wasn't even a rape. I feel this is all political. I feel sorry that she has been used in this way, and I especially feel sorry for anyone who can be accused of anything by anyone at anytime and they are tried and convicted without any proof. God help us if we go down this road! JMO MOO
 
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