Suspect #1: Dellen Millard *Charged* 1st Deg Murder 15 May 2013 #2

[SideKick]

Yes, I have children. And no, I have no idea what they have been up to, but I do know that I am proud of them, proud of whom they have become, and not seeing them for 10 years would kill me. If DM was mine, I would have marched up those courthouse stairs demanded to see my son, grabbed him by the scruff of his neck and made him confess. Once he confessed I would have marched him up to SB's house and forced him to apologize for what he had done, then marched him to jail to spend the next 25 years thinking about what he had done. That is how I parent.

~~ Awesome.

Hopefully, it would work and he wouldn't run, I know my son is 6 feet tall and alot stronger than I, so I would basically have to use my words. Being a tough one, a tough parent as you say... 'That is how I parent' is one thing, reality is another when dealing with males who prefer to live a life of crime, perhaps a stick in hand may help! lol

Anyway, all I really wanted to say is... Not all parents are at fault.

We have no idea why MB went to see her son do we? Supportive in what way? We have no idea.
1. She may be very heartbroken, upset and in complete turmoil with DM
2. A mother's love never ceases, in which case she would go to the jail to visit her son DM to perhaps talk with him to find out What The Hey is going here!
3. Hopefully, none of us will have to experience this kind of grief.

Thanks,
MOO

 

[matou]

BBM - You raise good points. Since the beginning, I've been trying to construct a timeline of DM's life based on MSM and online sleuthing (most of which can't be linked here so everything will have to be taken as "JMO"). FWIW, this is all I have pre-2011:

2005 - raunchy photo shoot at hangar
2006 - ??
2007 - purchased six-unit rental property from his father for $1.1M
2008 - ??
2009 - party at hangar for birthdays of two friends; travels overseas (photographed with a female friend/gf and one of his French friends); travels to Miami with friend
2010 - drives to Massachusetts with friend to pick up Cobra shell (according to his mechanic, DM had a budget of $100K for this project)

2009 and 2010- Hangar being used for photo shoots. Still checking.

 

[CanuckSleuth]

With all due respect Eldee, once children reach adulthood you don't have that choice.

We have no idea why DM and MS are how they are, or why they allegedly did what they did. Whether or not parenting (or lack there of) was an issue or not doesn't even really matter - it doesn't change anything.

There are plenty of amazing parents out there that are the parents of bad kids, no matter what they do or don't do. Some people are just "wired differently" than most and there's nothing anyone can do except punish them to the full extent of the law when it's possible. Even that doesn't make them better people, it just protects society.

We also have no idea what MB is saying or has said to her son.

 

[gimme sugar]

With all due respect Eldee, once children reach adulthood you don't have that choice.

We have no idea why DM and MS are how they are, or why they allegedly did what they did. Whether or not parenting (or lack there of) was an issue or not doesn't even really matter - it doesn't change anything.

There are plenty of amazing parents out there that are the parents of bad kids, no matter what they do or don't do. Some people are just "wired differently" than most and there's nothing anyone can do except punish them to the full extent of the law when it's possible. Even that doesn't make them better people, it just protects society.

We also have no idea what MB is saying or has said to her son.

My parents were and are incredible. I was a horrid teenager and young adult and it had NOTHING to do with them and EVERYTHING to do with me. I cleaned up, but it took a lot of counselling, running to anywhere but home and work. Once I got my wake up call, I literally cried on my parents front step and apologized. It was the hardest thing that I have ever done.

Some parents do everything they can and it doesn't matter. Yet no matter what I did, my parents loved me to the end of the earth.

 

[expat cdn]

Let's not blame the parents.

I have been thinking about DM and the photography stuff with the Suicide Girls site. How did he get involved with that? It is one thing to look at the stuff on the site, it's an entire different thing to be taking photos for the site and at 18 years old? I find that strange for an 18 year old. Do we know if any of his friends were involved? I couldn't find anything.

 

[SideKick]

Expat cdn,

You're right about the age part. I think that's the key all together. Perhaps he knew someone who was modelling and one thing led to another.

 

[MsSherlock]

Thanks MsSherlock. Your access to property records has been helpful! I wonder why The Star reported that he purchased it then (i.e. what did they come across that suggested that). Do you have any info on the Ajax home?

"He owned his childhood home, a six-unit property on Riverside Dr. he purchased from his father for $1.1 million in 2007 and a Vaughan condo he purchased for $392,000 in 2011. He also likely inherited an Ajax home purchased by his father in 2002 for $190,000."
http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/05/18/tim_bosma_the_painful_search_for_a_missing_man.html

Jash-I think the Star misreported the Ajax property being owned by the same WM.

 

[puppyraiser]

It's like I said before- what went on in DM's life between the ages of 18 and 25? When did he quit school and why? His lawyer says he hasn't been in trouble with the law but does that mean as an adult or did he have something going on in his younger years-after the record setting flight and before he should have been graduating with his schoolmates? Surely his grandfather or some of the staff had an idea of what was going on at the hangar. Who were the significant adults in his life and who did he aspire to be like? Was he, already following in the steps of someone he was close to when he began photographing "models"?

 

[JPC]

~~

We have no idea why MB went to see her son do we? Supportive in what way? We have no idea.
1. She may be very heartbroken, upset and in complete turmoil with DM
2. A mother's love never ceases, in which case she would go to the jail to visit her son DM to perhaps talk with him to find out What The Hey is going here!
3. Hopefully, none of us will have to experience this kind of grief.

Thanks,
MOO

I agree 100%. I think that it is rare that any parent could fathom their child doing something so heinous and most of us couldn't imagine not loving our children uncomditionally for their entire lives. None of us know who facilitated the estrangement but I can't imagine the horror that MB must have felt to know that her son had brought what apparently was the crime scene to her driveway and extinguished the life of another mother's son. I am sure that she must be hoping that on some crazy off chance that her son had nothing to do with this.

 

[SideKick]

I agree 100%. I think that it is rare that any parent could fathom their child doing something so heinous and most of us couldn't imagine not loving our children uncomditionally for their entire lives. None of us know who facilitated the estrangement but I can't imagine the horror that MB must have felt to know that her son had brought what apparently was the crime scene to her driveway and extinguished the life of another mother's son. I am sure that she must be hoping that on some crazy off chance that her son had nothing to do with this.

- I agree. Even if he did get into trouble age related stuff a lot boys get into...I can't imagine why or how she could turn her back. This is an educated woman who is classy enough to handle this her way.
If this is DM's first incidence how can she not be in shock and confused. Taking nude photographs cannot be compared to murder.

MOO

SK

 

[Alethea Dice]

2009 and 2010- Hangar being used for photo shoots. Still checking.

The photoshoot advertised by EG was in September 2009. However, there are others that were taken at Millard air in October and November of 2009 and in April 2010. If you do a search, there are some of the models pictures and the dates they were taken. Incidentally, the pictures that I found from the shoots are typical model shots, nothing nude or pornographic.

 

[Alethea Dice]

Jash, IMO, the 6 unit building was part of DM's inheritance from CM. CM & WM held it jointly prior to CM's death. Cash may never have changed hands, and it's hard to say what they were legally doing to reduce any capital gains after CM's death and future estate planning. We also don't know if they mortgaged that property to free up capital for the hangar. I haven't seen the 2009 pic's- I pick him up in 2010.

Thanks MsSherlock. Your access to property records has been helpful! I wonder why The Star reported that he purchased it then (i.e. what did they come across that suggested that). Do you have any info on the Ajax home?

"He owned his childhood home, a six-unit property on Riverside Dr. he purchased from his father for $1.1 million in 2007 and a Vaughan condo he purchased for $392,000 in 2011. He also likely inherited an Ajax home purchased by his father in 2002 for $190,000."
http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/05/18/tim_bosma_the_painful_search_for_a_missing_man.html

Is this correct? My understanding was that the childhood home in Etobicoke was left jointly to WM and DM in CM's will. It would have become his on the death of his father. The property on Riverside was purchased from WM in 2007 (so perhaps was left to WM if it was previously owned by CM). I had never heard before that the Riverside property was owned jointly.

 

[canadiangirl]

They all seemed to abandon him on Facebook, except for a few.

Yes but he only had a handful of fb friends. What guy that age has so few???

 

[Snoofo]

Yes but he only had a handful of fb friends. What guy that age has so few???

How many were there at the time of his arrest?

 

[MsSherlock]

Is this correct? My understanding was that the childhood home in Etobicoke was left jointly to WM and DM in CM's will. It would have become his on the death of his father. The property on Riverside was purchased from WM in 2007 (so perhaps was left to WM if it was previously owned by CM). I had never heard before that the Riverside property was owned jointly.

IMO, the method of ownership of any of the properties is completely speculative. I have not seen any reports that are anything more than assumptions when it comes to inheritances etc. As mentioned before, properties can be held as "joint tenants", meaning there is a right of survivorship- if one of the parties die, then title simply slides over to the survivor and it's outside of a will. This is what's seen with a husband and wife. Then there's also "tenants in common", seen more in business. Under this type of ownership, there are no survivorship rights. As an example, 2 brothers buy a property. If one brother dies, his interest in the property would go to his estate and would be handled by his will.
In the Millard scenario, we don't know under what form of ownership any of the properties were owned or for what reason they were transferred to DM. Simply because it shows as 1 million doesn't mean that actual cash traded hands, it may have meant that WM transferred his portion over to DM and that was the value of the transfer. A good example of that would be a divorce settlement. If the value of the property is 200K and the wife decides to buy the husband out, property records would show as a sale to the wife of 100K-she may not give her husband cash for his portion, but rather choose to sign off on his pension in lieu of cash.
So, in this case, especially since there was an estate being settled (CM), there is no way that we can know the hows and whys. JMHO

 

[canadiangirl]

Yes, I have children. And no, I have no idea what they have been up to, but I do know that I am proud of them, proud of whom they have become, and not seeing them for 10 years would kill me. If DM was mine, I would have marched up those courthouse stairs demanded to see my son, grabbed him by the scruff of his neck and made him confess. Once he confessed I would have marched him up to SB's house and forced him to apologize for what he had done, then marched him to jail to spend the next 25 years thinking about what he had done. That is how I parent.

The problem with this senario IMO is most parents would be in shock and denial their baby would do such a thing....I know I would. And I'd be heartbroken if it were true. THEN I'd do everything you mentioned. But most of all I'd cry.

 

[canadiangirl]

How many were there at the time of his arrest?

I can't say for sure but it's buried in the earlier threads because we were watching them drop off. About 12 sticks in my mind...but you'd have to go wayyyyy back

 

[Velma]

Yes but he only had a handful of fb friends. What guy that age has so few???

That being said, I wonder if he had another Facebook account that we don't know about. It's possible that he took it down before his arrest. If so, I'm sure it was found when LE retrieved his computer(s). Or an account with tight security settings that doesn't come up in search results (I have my settings done that way).

 

[JPC]

Perhaps he was just a private person and didn't want people to know that he was on FB. He may not have wanted a big electronic paper trail or footprint (didn't want to discuss anything to do with LB through text, uses a pseudonym for his profile). It sounds like even to his small group of friends, he downplayed his wealth and connections.

 

[CanuckSleuth]

I don't think the facebook issues are really issues. Not everyone is on it (myself included) and even if someone has a profile doesn't mean they are odd for not broadcasting everything over the internet. Personally, I find it odd how comfortable many are with how much they put out there. But that's JMO.