Suspicious behavior of Haleigh Cummings father

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It's my understanding that when the heart stops beating, there is no longer any outward bleeding. Maybe I'm wrong. If this is the case, instant death would produce little blood. Was the gun found in the culvert, the type that produced a big bang, or a little pop? It would be hard to fire some guns without neighbors hearing it go off. I was just wondering if this question had been answered and I missed it?

I agree as far as very little blood with some gun shot wounds. As for the sound of a hand gun in the house, it's going to sound like a pop, a single firecracker or perhaps a car backfiring.

Some years ago we had a home invasion and I fired two shots with a 357 from the inside of the house (one was coming in the front door and one coming in the back). We live in the city with neighbors on all sides of us and not one neighbor heard any of it.
 
I agree as far as very little blood with some gun shot wounds. As for the sound of a hand gun in the house, it's going to sound like a pop, a single firecracker or perhaps a car backfiring.

Some years ago we had a home invasion and I fired two shots with a 357 from the inside of the house (one was coming in the front door and one coming in the back). We live in the city with neighbors on all sides of us and not one neighbor heard any of it.

ITA. I live in a city where there are always police sirens, ambulance/fire trucks, not uncommon for gun shots and ALOT of cars backfiring...
 

NayNay dropped Misty off at her brothers to "babysit the kids" but before she did, Misty asked NayNay if she had a condom because Ronald told her to bring one...~


Such an odd thing to come up...was RC pimping out MC? Wouldn't be surprising with the lifestyle going on with this bunch, and it would be a way for MC to make money since she really had no other skill or job experience. and would be a reason for someone to be in the MH when RC was at work. Could have been the 'squeaking' couch jr heard. Could be why they don't want to admithe truth of that night because it is so low-life to do with kids around even they are smart enough to know they will be blamed for bringing it all on themselves if that type of thing was going on.

Any boyfriend that really gave a crap about MC would not have taken her back at all knowing what she was doing out on her 3 day binge in prior days. If that didn't bother him, then maybe letting her have sex for money wouldn't bother him either. As long as he got his cut, and the bonus of a live in babysitter.

You could look at it another way too, maybe MC kept all that to herself, not telling RC or anyone else...for obvious reasons of self-preservation.

Hmmmm.

With RC, it is a matter of following the money. He loves money, money and guns. They both bring him power. He will do anything for them.....because they bring him all he needs and desires.

If he was getting a cut of misty's actions, he'd be all for it as long as she brought him money, I don't think he would care.

On a different path, what ever happened to RC's friendship with OT? I wonder what the connection was between the two of them and how well did misty know OT? It is a most unlikely combination, imo. It was odd the way OT hovered over R & M in the beginning (he behaved as if a bodyguard) and then "Poof", he disappeared. That was suspicious!
 
I agree as far as very little blood with some gun shot wounds. As for the sound of a hand gun in the house, it's going to sound like a pop, a single firecracker or perhaps a car backfiring.

Some years ago we had a home invasion and I fired two shots with a 357 from the inside of the house (one was coming in the front door and one coming in the back). We live in the city with neighbors on all sides of us and not one neighbor heard any of it.

That's what I've been trying to find out. Thanks for the first hand knowledge!
 
Concerning rc and what we know now, we can safely say that everything Geraldo asked rc that day was very likely asked with good information to support his questions. We now know that rc will outright lie to the camera even when the questions are supported with facts. RC's behavior was very suspicious when he appeared with GR. He appeared to be "under the influence" and was trying very hard to control himself. His voice was cracking and struggling not to emit any outbursts or anger. His MO was obvious. He wanted to get even with the people that told GR this and threatened to tell LE on them.

<bbm>
He uses LE to his advantage whenever he is being persecuted by anyone. I find this behavior very odd. In saying that, it appears this is the way the people in the Cummings Clan operate. They will retalitate, even if it means getting LE to getcha if they cannot do it in their very unique way.

This ^ ^ ^ is the scariest thing about Ronald Cummings and his family, imo. They will set you up so perfectly that your own momma will think you're guilty.

PDN even ran an editorial chastising Geraldo after his appearance here in Putnam County.

That Squires bunch ain't powerful, they ain't IQ intelligent, but dam, they are a cunning bunch of peeps.

What a shame they didn't use all those smarts to do good in the world. That is so sad to me. They could have made a real impact on humanity, if they had just directed it the right way.

JMO
 
ITA. I live in a city where there are always police sirens, ambulance/fire trucks, not uncommon for gun shots and ALOT of cars backfiring...

Well, Ronald didn't. [I live within a few miles of the m/h on Green Ln.]

There was a loud bang last night, and sure enough, I went down to the scanner thread to check it out. I still don't know if it was an auto backfiring or a shotgun blast, but this is a quiet area so you notice something like that, esp at night. [No hunting at night. At least not legally.]
 
I suggest you ask Ronald about that gun..., but don't don't bank on him telling the TRUTH..JMO

hee-hee-hee.... just as well, cuz I was gonna use it to shoot TJ's video on my computer monitor. ;)

It is pretty ridiculous how bad the sensationalism got. (And continues - sigh.)
 
Cunning? Understatement when spoken about the Cummings. I watched each video made by them with my best eyes and ears. I know there will be some that won't buy this, but RC was the one who took every opportunity to toot his horn about custody. It started on the very first tape on the morning Haleigh went missing. He managed to slip it in in the interviews after that even if he weren't questioned about it. His mother worked in a similar fashion. As you say LF, it was a media blitz to point the finger in Crystal's direction.

And IMO, it was based on the fact that Crystal and Kim put it out there from the start that Misty and RC were living a life of sex, drugs and R & R. Crystal was concerned about her other child, but, the Cummings side were winning the war. People were circling around the "beloved father' and pitting his "custody" as proof that he was the better parent....of course this was done with Ron's approval and his constant tooting of his own horn. Yes, LF, I agree, they are a cunning crowd..
 
Ronald pulled a gun out of the closet &#8212; an assault rifle with 2 clips &#8212; each clip holding 32 bullets. Ronald looked at Miller and said, &#8220;When I find out where Haleigh&#8217;s at, I will blow the teeth out of the back of her head, and then I&#8217;ll do this&#8230;&#8221; He then got on his knees, put the butt of the rifle on the floor, leaned over and put the barrel in his mouth. There was no &#8220;IF&#8221; she had anything to do with it, Miller knew that Ronald was serious &#8212; that he would kill Misty, and then take his own life. It was at that point he knew they had to get Misty out of there, or she would end up dead&#8230;&#8221;
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/haleigh-cummings-will-ronald-cummings-loose-another-child/

I find this suspicious. He has another child.....what about him? Why would you take your own life? This could be what he has told Misty to keep her from talking. "I'll kill you, and then myself." Again with the guns!
 
I think it's a case of abduction by a very bad enemy, and RC and MC will both be charged with obstruction because they wouldn't admit to what they have done to cause this type of retribution.
same here, thank you
 
Cunning? Understatement when spoken about the Cummings. I watched each video made by them with my best eyes and ears. I know there will be some that won't buy this, but RC was the one who took every opportunity to toot his horn about custody. It started on the very first tape on the morning Haleigh went missing. He managed to slip it in in the interviews after that even if he weren't questioned about it. His mother worked in a similar fashion. As you say LF, it was a media blitz to point the finger in Crystal's direction.

And IMO, it was based on the fact that Crystal and Kim put it out there from the start that Misty and RC were living a life of sex, drugs and R & R. Crystal was concerned about her other child, but, the Cummings side were winning the war. People were circling around the "beloved father' and pitting his "custody" as proof that he was the better parent....of course this was done with Ron's approval and his constant tooting of his own horn. Yes, LF, I agree, they are a cunning crowd..

The word "scheming" werks better than "cunning."
 
I think it's a case of abduction by a very bad enemy, and RC and MC will both be charged with obstruction because they wouldn't admit to what they have done to cause this type of retribution.
I could not disagree with you more. There is nothing about the behaviors of Ron, Misty and both of their families that show this to be anything but an inside job.

If this was an "abduction" for revenge, drugs, retaliation, etc...Ronald Cummings would have spilled his guts about it on day one.

I, like many here, firmly believe, through evidence, facts and strange behaviors of these people, that Ron and Misty know exactly what happened to sweet little Haleigh because they were the perpetrators of the crime against her.
 
I could not disagree with you more. There is nothing about the behaviors of Ron, Misty and both of their families that show this to be anything but an inside job.

If this was an "abduction" for revenge, drugs, retaliation, etc...Ronald Cummings would have spilled his guts about it on day one. (Or he would of been shoving a gun down someones throat! He dose not seem like the type that would just walk away...he seems more like the type that would want revenge. But that is JMO..)
I, like many here, firmly believe, through evidence, facts and strange behaviors of these people, that Ron and Misty know exactly what happened to sweet little Haleigh because they were the perpetrators of the crime against her.

I agree! They know!
 
Concerning rc and what we know now, we can safely say that everything Geraldo asked rc that day was very likely asked with good information to support his questions. We now know that rc will outright lie to the camera even when the questions are supported with facts. RC's behavior was very suspicious when he appeared with GR. He appeared to be "under the influence" and was trying very hard to control himself. His voice was cracking and struggling not to emit any outbursts or anger. His MO was obvious. He wanted to get even with the people that told GR this and threatened to tell LE on them. He uses LE to his advantage whenever he is being persecuted by anyone. I find this behavior very odd. In saying that, it appears this is the way the people in the Cummings Clan operate. They will retalitate, even if it means getting LE to getcha if they cannot do it in their very unique way.

BBM: ITA, even his number one fan (someone besides his mother) called Ron a liar on her show. If Nancy Grace can see that he is lying, then it is way too obvious that Ron is indeed a liar.
 
I agree as far as very little blood with some gun shot wounds. As for the sound of a hand gun in the house, it's going to sound like a pop, a single firecracker or perhaps a car backfiring.

Some years ago we had a home invasion and I fired two shots with a 357 from the inside of the house (one was coming in the front door and one coming in the back). We live in the city with neighbors on all sides of us and not one neighbor heard any of it.

LOL, you go girl. I like a woman who isn't afraid to protect herself. I'm thinking that if a shot was fired, the same woman who heard a woman scream at around 2:00 am would most likely have remembered hearing a "pop" sound prior to that. IMO, anyway, unless she wasn't at home at the time the shot was fired.
 
Just wanted to add two minor items in the Suspicious Behaviour column for Ron Cummings. These are minor compared to the long, long list but to me, very telling:

1. Ron getting Haleigh's tattoo put on his leg.
2. Ron putting "Only God Can Judge Me" on his truck's back window.

I just didn't want these two little items to get lost with all the overwhelming "suspicious" actions of this man.
 
Concerning rc and what we know now, we can safely say that everything Geraldo asked rc that day was very likely asked with good information to support his questions. We now know that rc will outright lie to the camera even when the questions are supported with facts. RC's behavior was very suspicious when he appeared with GR. He appeared to be "under the influence" and was trying very hard to control himself. His voice was cracking and struggling not to emit any outbursts or anger. His MO was obvious. He wanted to get even with the people that told GR this and threatened to tell LE on them. He uses LE to his advantage whenever he is being persecuted by anyone. I find this behavior very odd. In saying that, it appears this is the way the people in the Cummings Clan operate. They will retalitate, even if it means getting LE to getcha if they cannot do it in their very unique way.

Whisperer, you really hit that nail on the head. Having known some people in the illegal drug business myself, (not as a customer!) I have to agree they keep a distance between themself and the law. If someone broke into their house, they would not call in the cops. They would solve it themselves and take action. They keep a low profile and stick within their own circle of people.Trust isn't something they include in their daily lives.
However, as you pointed out, the Cummings family do seem to have a direct line to LE. And, that is odd behavior as you say. But, it's also what makes LE want to keep an eye on these people. It's the same thing with a school teacher: she or he learns the names of the "bad" students the very first day of school.
I'm sure local LE had their eye on Ron and family long before Haleigh disappeared.
jmo
 
Whisperer, you really hit that nail on the head. Having known some people in the illegal drug business myself, (not as a customer!) I have to agree they keep a distance between themself and the law. If someone broke into their house, they would not call in the cops. They would solve it themselves and take action. They keep a low profile and stick within their own circle of people.Trust isn't something they include in their daily lives.
However, as you pointed out, the Cummings family do seem to have a direct line to LE. And, that is odd behavior as you say. But, it's also what makes LE want to keep an eye on these people. It's the same thing with a school teacher: she or he learns the names of the "bad" students the very first day of school.
I'm sure local LE had their eye on Ron and family long before Haleigh disappeared.jmo


bbm

Gone Baby Gone?

Has anyone heard about or from JM lately? Is he still on the case or even with LE?
 
LOL, you go girl. I like a woman who isn't afraid to protect herself. I'm thinking that if a shot was fired, the same woman who heard a woman scream at around 2:00 am would most likely have remembered hearing a "pop" sound prior to that. IMO, anyway, unless she wasn't at home at the time the shot was fired.

didn't a neighbor also hear a loud truck or car??? was the noisy vehicle,
loud pipes? back fire? music?

and I know a lady that killed herself by gun in an apartment building and
no one heard the gun shot.
 
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