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<modsnip> thanks for all your work on the threads these past four weeks or so. Appreciated.
Alison's body toxicology report showed anti-depressants at 12 times the level of normal anti-depressant levels. These results can be unreliable though due to decomposition. Not enough to indicate fatal overdose
You get triaged based on my assessment. I also don't care how you arrived in ED ( ie most people who come by ambulance automatically think they get seen first) If you are not acutely unwell..............off to the waiting room for you!!
I've even had patients arrive to ED with minor complaints & get triaged accordingly with the appropriate wait............only to leave & arrive by ambulance an hour later........all they achieve is to go back to the bottom of the list .
Bahahaha...I've seen that happen too. One hospital where I worked kept a notebook at the triage desk in which they listed "Most Inappropriate Uses of the Ambulance Service".
The worst I saw was a lady who arrived at 3 am by ambulance because she had...a sore throat. She had already had it for 2 weeks. She had seen her GP about 12 hours before, and been given an antibiotic. She had taken 1 dose of the antibiotic and was frustrated because the sore throat was not improving quickly enough for her liking. :facepalm:
Greg - in case you may have missed it, see my post addressing these points a few pages up-thread. And also the original poster's very gracious reply to my post.
Zorrow, I was there in 1976 and it was a mix of gifted children and children with behavioural problems, and quite controversial. Three blocks, one with grades 1, 2 and 3 merged, one with grades 4 and 5 mixed, and one with grades 6 and 7 mixed. And there was a Library (where I hid). There was almost no supervision, children were free to roam the grounds. I was beaten by one boy with a blackboard ruler (headmaster excused that because boy was epileptic) - my point is that the emphasis was on each child being 'special' and the kids were noticeably different to others when they reached high school. Gerard was the only child from his family to attend that school, so my question is why did he need a different style of schooling - was he more likely to flourish in an undisciplined and unorthodox environment as a small boy? He lived in close proximity to the Prep, where his siblings went to school, so it was actually an inconvenience to transport him to Gabbinbar.
Many good people have come out of that school, they were not damaged.
I was not implying that the school gave him behavioural problems, I was suggesting that possibly:
1) he was sent to that school because of adjustment or behavioural problems (which may have stemmed from migration) and/or
2) he emerged from a primary school that nurtured high self esteem and specialness as it's absolute priority, coupled with parents that nurtured the same.
It is undeniable that Gerard, to this day, has a healthy perception of his own 'specialness'.
I have no idea about Wattle Day but based on my personal gardening experience and plant-geek tendencies, I would have thought wattles were in bloom closer to August 1 than September 1. I even remember seeing some wattles blossoming in July some years and remarking that it was a very, very, very early sign of spring.
The first celebration of Wattle Day was held on 1 September 1910 in Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide. Plans in 1913 to proclaim the wattle a national emblem and celebrate Wattle Day nationally were interrupted by World War I, but wattle remained a strong symbol of patriotism during the war years. Sprigs of wattle and colourful badges were sold on Wattle Day to raise money for the Red Cross. NSW changed the date to 1 August in 1916 because that allowed the Red Cross to use the earlier flowering and more familiar Cootamundra Wattle rather than Golden Wattle. http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliam...brary/Publications_Archive/CIB/cib9596/96cib1
Just thought I'd mention that the 'Milat' book mentioned a few pages back by Clive Small is on Amazon Kindle at the moment for around $3. (On iBooks it's about $15). In case any one here wants to snap it up for cheap! :lookingitup:
Zorrow, I was there in 1976 and it was a mix of gifted children and children with behavioural problems, and quite controversial. Three blocks, one with grades 1, 2 and 3 merged, one with grades 4 and 5 mixed, and one with grades 6 and 7 mixed. And there was a Library (where I hid). There was almost no supervision, children were free to roam the grounds. I was beaten by one boy with a blackboard ruler (headmaster excused that because boy was epileptic) - my point is that the emphasis was on each child being 'special' and the kids were noticeably different to others when they reached high school. Gerard was the only child from his family to attend that school, so my question is why did he need a different style of schooling - was he more likely to flourish in an undisciplined and unorthodox environment as a small boy? He lived in close proximity to the Prep, where his siblings went to school, so it was actually an inconvenience to transport him to Gabbinbar.
Many good people have come out of that school, they were not damaged.
I was not implying that the school gave him behavioural problems, I was suggesting that possibly:
1) he was sent to that school because of adjustment or behavioural problems (which may have stemmed from migration) and/or
2) he emerged from a primary school that nurtured high self esteem and specialness as it's absolute priority, coupled with parents that nurtured the same.
It is undeniable that Gerard, to this day, has a healthy perception of his own 'specialness'.
I meant "kicking " not "licking" just for the record, I dont lick garbage, see I really do need to go to bed
Ok Doc, I'll drop to defcon 3 for now
With regards to the disposal of the body, i lean to the enlistment of another for a number of reasons, including the fact that if the children woke up and daddy and mummy weren't home that could blow holes in Gerards story, If another was watching over them while he disposed similar issue eg when asked by police, oh i woke up in the night and grandpa was there or aunty olivia was there........
but if they woke up at 1am or so and daddy was there to say go back to sleep dear then..... no probs...... i feel it really does point to another person or persons disposing of the body.
i have a feeling somethings been missed with the phones/internet possibly some gmail/hotmail communication or another app (like viber) or an IM platform that had been deleted after use.....
MOO
Yep I bought it for $3 a couple of nights ago, but on Google Play Books. I was very happily surprised by that price, and am part way through it. Very interesting with lots of details I've not heard before!
I have always leaned toward the public phone at the Showgrounds being a handy option. Or if it was early, the call from A to O's phone might be the key.
Police investigate approaches to Gerard Baden-Clay jurors
During the 21-day high profile trial, jurors were approached by a television journalist and, separately, by a man dressed in red who asked for a betting tip about the upcoming verdict.
Both approaches were *rebuffed by the jurors and swiftly reported to trial judge John Byrne.
Police are also investigating a post on the Facebook page Justice for Allison Baden-Clay by someone purporting to be a juror, asking for public patience while the jury deliberated.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...badenclay-jurors/story-e6frg6nf-1226991513396
Do you know what .. that is a perfect school for GBC if he did have behavioural problems because he could be there for that reason, but his parents could tell everyone else he was in the gifted program.
Also once he emerged he may have been expected to live up to the expectations the people around the family (who didn't know that he had issues) would have had for him considering his 'giftedness' .. don't we all think it's interesting that GBC only had a few years of work in Australia before he disappeared overseas (where he was in charge of what got reported back home) then after struggling for a bit to find his feet, went into business under the umbrella of protection from his parents, only to drive it into the ground once they retired?
Then to kill his wife and end up in jail when it all began to collapse around his ears.
I can see it, this makes sense to me JMO.
Thanks MadDoc
I've looked it up, because I was CERTAIN we used to have it on August 1 (we had a lot of wattle trees in our yard when I was young), as it was the same day as "Horses Birthday".
I just did a bit of Googling and found this:
So, those who remember it as August 1 are not dreaming. Just trivia!
They've misreported that. I was in the court when the judge clearly said "A person dressed in purple"....
With regards to the disposal of the body, i lean to the enlistment of another for a number of reasons, including the fact that if the children woke up and daddy and mummy weren't home that could blow holes in Gerards story, If another was watching over them while he disposed similar issue eg when asked by police, oh i woke up in the night and grandpa was there or aunty olivia was there........
but if they woke up at 1am or so and daddy was there to say go back to sleep dear then..... no probs...... i feel it really does point to another person or persons disposing of the body.
i have a feeling somethings been missed with the phones/internet possibly some gmail/hotmail communication or another app (like viber) or an IM platform that had been deleted after use.....
MOO
Zorrow, I was there in 1976 and it was a mix of gifted children and children with behavioural problems, and quite controversial. Three blocks, one with grades 1, 2 and 3 merged, one with grades 4 and 5 mixed, and one with grades 6 and 7 mixed. And there was a Library (where I hid). There was almost no supervision, children were free to roam the grounds. I was beaten by one boy with a blackboard ruler (headmaster excused that because boy was epileptic) - my point is that the emphasis was on each child being 'special' and the kids were noticeably different to others when they reached high school. Gerard was the only child from his family to attend that school, so my question is why did he need a different style of schooling - was he more likely to flourish in an undisciplined and unorthodox environment as a small boy? He lived in close proximity to the Prep, where his siblings went to school, so it was actually an inconvenience to transport him to Gabbinbar.
Many good people have come out of that school, they were not damaged.
I was not implying that the school gave him behavioural problems, I was suggesting that possibly:
1) he was sent to that school because of adjustment or behavioural problems (which may have stemmed from migration) and/or
2) he emerged from a primary school that nurtured high self esteem and specialness as it's absolute priority, coupled with parents that nurtured the same.
It is undeniable that Gerard, to this day, has a healthy perception of his own 'specialness'.