I really really think you guys are on to something. I haven't been here in a while but I used to post alot during the Van Dam murder case. Don't you think someone should notify the CO authorities about these letters and let them decide if they could be JMK? I really think they are written by him and I just stepped into this. I think someone should notify the DA's office immediately if they know how. Either JMK did it or he is highly delusional and thinks he did. BTW, I know that no one here agrees with me but I do not believe the Ramseys had anything to do with their daughter's death. But anyway, these letter's may help the DA either find out he is psychotic or the real perp and they should be reported to them.
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I think this is one of the most interesting things going on with this case right now. I hope someone has sent off these writings to the DA's office and I wonder if they are giving them any credence? If they were sent a long time ago, maybe they need to be sent again since they seem to be so inept there.
WolfmarsGirl
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chiquita2 said:
I agree we should contact authorities. They may or may not be aware of these peculiar letters which, I firmly believe, were written by Karr. Whatever that is worth remains to be seen.
Anyone want to forward the Patricia Letters to the DA?? Anyone???
Ok, I have to sleep now...I do think these ideas should be forwarded.
WolfmarsGirl
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tybee204 said:
Sure, they have them. But, have they made any connection between these letters and Karr?? No one would really see it unless they had a reason to pull out the letters and compare them (like we just did
Reading more about him - I suspect he's killed some, definitely molested some. Whether or not he did so to JBR, he shows all the marks of a very dangerous pedophile who quite likely has left a trail behind him.Elisea said:
Wow - I think you guys are absolutely right about the letters!
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chiquita2 said:
Good morning chiquita2,
I do not think he is the murderer, but if it is true that he has some info that has never been released before (apparently pages of it have not been released, according to one investigator) then perhaps he does have info on the perp. As nutty as he is, he could be the key to solving this thing. That is my prayer.
I used to believe the Ramsey's were involved, I do not hold that view anymore. You are not alone here.
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Remember, though, that this was in 1999. Since then, he had to up the ante. I am certain that the investigators had to be aware of John Karr, but wrote him off as a flake. There had to be something that made them go "Whoa, Nellie" in his correspondence with either Tracey or the person he thought was Patsy Ramsey. It is not inconceivable to me that he does have inside info from his pedo connections. I imagine that world is quite **cough, gag, choke*** incestuous.
How many times has LE wrote someone off as a flake, that either turned out to be the perp OR had valuable information?
Perhaps, had the Patricia letters kept going on, he would have given out more clues. He desperately wanted to be heard. If this was John Karr, he wanted this info out so badly HE WAS TALKING TO CAROL MCKINLEY, trying to get her to PUBLISH his theory!!!!!!
ABOUT HIM!!
HE NEEDED TO UP THE ANTE. HE CANNOT BE IGNORED--OR WORSE--DISMISSED AS A FLAKE!
He needed REAL info. Did he find it?? That is what I want to know. I am so curious about those sealed affadavits!
I cannot believe it is after 3:00 in the morning, and I am still on this darned computer! :crazy: Arrrrgh! :doh: :slap:
This case is gonna drive me nutso! Goodnight!
WolfmarsGirl
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tybee204 said:
Ok, well if that is the case, then I am going to start a new thread on this subject. Finding out that Karr is most likely the author of the Patricia volumes will probably be quite interesting to the DA's office. However, I fear they will have a difficult time sorting through our discussion in order to get to the heart of the matter.
I just want to make their job a little easier, you know? :angel: I don't think a gem like this one should be passed off to the DA's office with a 'well, they-will-find-it-if-they-need-it,' attitude.
Again, I think we just discovered pages and pages of correspondence written by the man who claims to have killed Jonbenet Ramsey!!! How important is that???
In reality, I don't think this bozo killed JBR, so the Patricia Letters do not amount to a hill of beans, lol. But, since the DA is interested in him, why not share what we've got??
At the very least, let me ask you all this: Does anyone have a relationship with Charlie Brennan? Maybe we should show him the letters. Heck, I don't care who we show them to...just let's get them out there as possible (probable) Karr letters.
I said it before: This is big.
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Shelayne said:I do not think he is the murderer, but if it is true that he has some info that has never been released before (apparently pages of it have not been released, according to one investigator) then perhaps he does have info on the perp. As nutty as he is, he could be the key to solving this thing. That is my prayer. I used to believe the Ramsey's were involved, I do not hold that view anymore. You are not alone here.
Shelayne: I agree with your theory that if JMKarr has case confidential info, he may have info on the perp.
I think these child pervs, exchange "stories and photos" like a sort of currency. And I think they all know exactly how/where to find each other. Karr has trolled enough on the net, where I think he had the opportunity to chat with a person or persons involved in the murder of JBR. And I speculate that he "absorbed" that person's persona, because he was envious of all the attention they got. I think that he liked to trade on this "currency", in various forums and groups.
Karr strikes me as someone who "cuts and pastes" his personna, resume, life experience, from other people's information. It is about him, reconstructing himself, exactly the way he wants it.
BloodshotEye
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I believe that the links to the posts, are in the first pages of this thread. There are some very interesting posts here, that compare phrasing in the Annie Muss vs. emails to Tracey. if you have the time, you might want to read this thread from start to finish.
After reading most of Annie Muss postings...they sound more like they could be written by Wendy Hutchens or someone else that knows JMK. Its possible they were written by JMK but it sounds more like it is from someone else that had contact with him. Perhaps he is a multiple personality??? The Patricia messages sound more like JMK wrote them.
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Did the Patricia letters have contractions in them? Poster BeyondBelief brought up contractions on the Ransom note thread. It seems that the RN, JMK emails and the Patricia letters are missing contractions as a rule.
This one does not. It is also almost gramatically perfect according to MS WORD.
Food for thought over the last 12 hours.
This one does not. It is also almost gramatically perfect according to MS WORD.
Food for thought over the last 12 hours.
WolfmarsGirl
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T Broodwater said:
Here is the original post - with the link
WolfmarsGirl
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absolut said:
I have not noticed contractions or not - maybe that is why these letters all sound the same in an overly-formal-but-just-plain-ridiculous way...hmmm...
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I lean more toward Annie possibly being JMK, rather than the Hutchens lady. I think the postings may have been JMK writing in third person about things he wishes were true. The part about how his family and friends will say he wasn't living in Boulder but that he was tends to make me think it was JMK having fun pretending to be close to the murderer and having intimate knowledge of the murder.
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I can't agree with this more. This is so sociopathic!BloodshotEye said:
I *believe*, Shelayne, that someone in the BPD (Lou Smitt?) was enamored with the Ramseys and gave confidential information to Michael Tracy. It is conceivable that Mr. Tracy could have "passed on" these details to JM Karr. Therefore, he WOULD have evidence only the killer (and investigators) should know.