In the vidoe, in this link,you can hear a short piece of Adam S's 911 call:
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/1608363...nsion-computer
(sorry if this has already been posted.
I also posted it on the Dr. Phil thread)
seems to be a bad link :-(
In the vidoe, in this link,you can hear a short piece of Adam S's 911 call:
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/1608363...nsion-computer
(sorry if this has already been posted.
I also posted it on the Dr. Phil thread)
seems to be a bad link :-(
seems to be a bad link :-(
..the SDSO has a new FAQ section on their "Coronado Death Investigation".
http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/index.html
--Coronado Death Investigation--
http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/faq.html
CORONADO DEATH INVESTIGATION - FAQs
Frequently Asked Questions
--snipped---more FAQ's @ link---
Why didnt we collect and process the panties in the trash?
...( P/P ---they probably belonge to a girl at a slumber party, b/c JS said so...and--) Fingerprints, DNA, and other items left behind in other areas of the mansion have limited value in proving or disproving a crime.
( serious "limited value"------if they are not even tested..)
Why didnt we process the blood in the shower?
Since the master bedroom is in another part of the mansion, and there was no evidence at the scene of the event suggesting anyone else was bleeding other than Rebecca, this item was not tested.
( ummm---well maybe if you HAD tested the blood, it would have NOT belonged to rebecca------therefore, someone else at the scene.)
BBM. Have we heard about this slumber party before? Did it involve GS or XZ?
Dr Cyril Wecht on Websleuths radio (November 20, 2011)Love this part:
"How did she learn these complex knots?
We don’t believe she did. These knots were not as complex as they have been made out to be, which is what we discovered when we attempted to recreate the knots on Rebecca’s wrists. Simply stated, this is one of those questions which will most likely never be answered with any certainty."
Really? She never learned how to tie these knots? Then how did she manage to tie herself with them? And I noticed they say nothing about bondage *advertiser censored*. Did they ever even investigate who was looking at the *advertiser censored*? We all have noticed from the start how similar the way her body was found looked to bondage *advertiser censored*. Why would a woman supposedly killing herself out of guilt and grief try to make her suicide look like a scene out of bondage *advertiser censored*? And they never tested the panties found in the guest house? Just cause they assumed these panties belonged to somebody else? Alrighty then.
Yes, my sentiments as well, that he stayed up all night.My experience was that if you watch the first video that comes when you click on the link, then after you watch that video, you will be given the option of seeing a second video, which appears to be from YouTube. It's worth being patient to watch both. It's difficult to hear how callous AS sounds! Makes me wonder, as I just said on another thread, if he'd stayed up all night. MOO.
BBM.Yes, my sentiments as well, that he stayed up all night.
Dr Cyril Wecht on Websleuths radio (November 20, 2011)
They were special knots that enabled someone to put their hands in and out
Let me give you a comment from someone who is an expert who was on the Dr Drew show Dr Drew stated to his audience that he had consulted a rope/knot specialist and that specialist said to Dr Drew that he did not see how anybody could have done this.
I want to know where Rebecca Zahau learned to do these kinds of knots, where did she acquire this special skill?
We got somebody here (referring to the demonstration by the San Diego Sheriffs Dept.) Rope Demonstration - Front View on Vimeo who can show you how that knot can be done and to this day and Ive hurled this challenge out, and Im doing it again tonight, and Im hoping that some of those people; sycophants, parasites, self appointed defenders that may be listening to your show, that one of them would have the decency, the integrity, the courage to answer this - with all their investigations, what have they come up with to show that Rebecca Zahau could have tied those knots?
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2011/11/21/baby-lisa-irwin-rebecca-zahau-dr-cyril-wecht
The specialist referred to by Dr Wecht is Lindsey Philpott.
http://www.theknotguy.com/forensic.html
Video clip of Lindsey on the Dr. Drew show:
DrDkn - YouTube
PINSKY: How did Rebecca bind both her hands and feet and throw herself off the balcony?
Now, we saw that video there where it looks -- that, to me, looks difficult. But Ive got a forensic specialist here, Lyndsey Philpott, a knotting expert who worked on the JonBenet Ramsey case.
Im actually really grateful youre here, because if its possible, show me how. Somebody who had no experience with rope, looking at that video, it seems extraordinary to think that somebody in an altered state perhaps could sit down, never having worked with a rope before, and bind themselves, and do it the way we saw in that video.
LYNDSEY PHILPOTT, FORENSIC KNOTTING EXPERT: Its a very curious thing to be able to tie yourself in knots. And seeing the way in which the video displayed it, you first of all have to find the halfway point on the line, and then put it over yourself like this.
PINSKY: How would you know to do that? I would not know to do that unless I were a sailor from the 17th century or something. And Im a young woman in distress. Im going to think to do that?
PHILPOTT: I really dont think that anybody could think to do that.
PINSKY: OK.
PHILPOTT: And its very difficult for me even as an expert to be able to manipulate these lines in some way so that I can -- you can see it.
PINSKY: And she actually did it behind her back. Then she got it -- but then --
PHILPOTT: And then to take them off there and put them behind her back would be tantamount to contortionist, because you then have to try to figure out where things are going and how theyre going to get there.
And what would be the purpose? What would be the purpose in showing that your hands are tied behind your back? After all is said and done, if youre going to be committing suicide, aren`t you mainly concerned with asphyxiating or breaking your own neck as a result of that?
PINSKY: And then the feet too were bound, I guess, although I havent seen any video on what kind of binding she allegedly did there. That, too, seems very, very bizarre.
PHILPOTT: I havent seen anything which indicates the kind of binding around her wrists, nor have I seen anything indicating the kind of knot around her ankles.
PINSKY: And by the way, how about having the knowledge to be able to have the right kind of -- I wouldn`t know what kind of knot to put around a bed to make sure I wouldn`t just fall to the ground. I mean, isnt even that in itself a little challenging?
PHILPOTT: That is challenging.
PINSKY: And how about the noose? I dont know how to tie -- how would she (ph) know how to tie a noose?
PHILPOTT: There`s a number of different ways of tying a noose. You can tie one by doing this. But as you can see, if you put the end in the wrong place, that will simply come apart and you`ll be left with nothing.
You have to put it into the right place, and you have to know to put it into the right place so that it would actually stay in position. And then once it does, its going to tighten up around the bed post.
Most people will tie lots of knots. If theyre going to tie anything at all, theyll tie lots of knots.
PINSKY: That makes sense to me. That makes sense to me.
PHILPOTT: Theyll tie lots of the wrong kind. And she wasnt doing that.
PINSKY: And thats not what she was doing, yes.
Well, listen, I really appreciate you being here, because to me this is one of the most mysterious parts of this, is watching an explanation on a video thats supposed to show us how it was likely that she did it when, to me, it makes it even more mysterious.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1109/08/ddhln.01.html
One reason I can think of that he'd been masturbating is the tension of being involved all night in no good, coupled with the excitement, coupled with knowing that it was all over. He wasn't worried about Max anymore and RZ was dead and he knew it. He was just passing time until it was time for him to "find" her. JMO.
I'm glad Pinsky is profiling this. He has a pretty keen eye for both abusive situations and BS, and it's clear he thinks the official report here is BS.
His expert's point that most amateurs tie a lot of different kinds of knots rings really true.
This article is based on original investigative reporting and exclusive statements made to us by Dr. Godwin on Tuesday, November 22, 2011. He officially worked as a consultant on the Rebecca Zahau case from September 4 until October 23, 2011.
These photos are shown in the attached slide show which accompanies this report.
Dr. Godwin has even found a potential match for the alleged killer's shoe print, that of a beach slipper known as an EVA flip-flop.
We have learned that LE believes it was AS's bootprints in the kitchen.... from when he went in to get the knife to cut her down..... the main house is NOT locked up? Or does AS know how to get in? It just makes me think about that note.....
I never thought this note was meant to read like RZ wrote it. To me it says... an intruder murder.... "She saved him".. like this is a personal message to JS... I tried to kill your son but "she saved him".....the killer thinks the kid did not die and might recover so.. now I am going to kill someone else close to you.... "Can you save her"..... this is very threatening... very directed at JS.....
This could be a contract killing or a deranged person who has a personal vendetta with JS.
However.... a contract killing would NOT be this messy.... a deragned person... maybe... I think that house is easy to get into... no security..
But when you start adding all of the evidence up so far..... it begins to look staged.... and that note is so JS... the block letter writing and third person.... very JS. The knots.. very AS. The fact that someone could get so close to her while she is wearing only a t-shirt? The only person that could do that IMO would be JS. If he grabbed her from behind maybe as she was running down the hall from the master bedroom into the death bedroom... she is so small he could have strangled her in seconds?
the 911 call.... AS seems to want to keep his distance... as much as possible... doing what is right but not being personal in anyway.. and he seems more angry and exhausted than in shock.... in the 911 call he comes across as angry (as someone pointed out) that he is stuck making the call..and being further involved with the body.
I think the evidence still points to JS killing RZ in a rage and then AS becoming involved in the cover up.. he may have heared RZ scream and ran into the main house to find JS had killed her and they came up with a plan... make it look like a deranged killer is out to hurt JS.... I think in JS's mind this would wrap things up nicely....because I think his world is all about his corporation... and if people believe a killer harmed his family... he doesn't have to answer questions or face scrutiny about how he failed his son in some way and of course it hides his rage kill.... I think he would sooner have people believe his family was killed by a deranged person with a vendetta.... than the complicated mess it was.... his son about to die... because no one was watching him.. his cheapness about no servants or nanny... all that guilt... and the complications of his girlfriend being scrutinized for harming his son.... that all reflects very badly on him.... his lifestyle... But... a deranged killer with a vendetta.. now how could that be his fault?
I have a hard time believing the twin would kill RZ. I think both JS and the twin wanted to find out from RZ the details for DS but JS got to the house first. According to her that bedroom light was already on.
The police go out on a tangent with suicide because they thought she was essentially a baby killer. They tried to keep it simple but the evidence is just too weird. I don't think Gore knew all the details I think the lead investigator came up with the end result and Gore signed off on it. The lead investigator would have been keen to just wrap this up and keep all the embarassing details like how RZ was under suspicion for the death of MS and those creepy and embarassing web searches under wraps. I think the lead investigator was intimidated by JS's status. The lead investigator seems like a sensitive and basic kind offellow and this murder was waaaaaaaaaaaaay over his head.
No wonder JS would be "so happy" the investigation is wrapped up....and closed up. He wants it go go away.... so badly he hires PR and expensive lawyers right away... and sells that house lightning fast.... he could not have run away form this any faster.... IMO..... and he lost huge money... to get away from it... something I am not sure an innocent person would do.
From everything I have seen the twin sister is the only one involved that has consistently shown anger towards RZ throughout this entire episode. All of her statements and actions so far has circled around RZ being responsible for/hiding information about the boy's accident.
There were 3 people that we can say for sure were on the property that night. The brother, the twin sister and the victim. The twin sister has shown unashamed anger towards RZ and the brother had an inconclusive polygraph...