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I believe it's a lay day like last week and Monday GBC stays in the comfort of his new home while the jurors go to the bridge, Brookfield road and Boscombe road which interests me that Boscombe road has such significance. Allison's phone showed a signal from there, Mrs Apps and Scraps (dog) was from there.
probably a silly question.....what happens if GBC gets off.
is he compensated by the government........do they get any sort of money
payment?
Do we know if it was a vacuum hose or garden hose?
Does anyone know if Allison was wearing shoes when they found her?
I think that would be quite important - no shoes if she was in bed, runners if she was out walking, slippers if she was at home?
why on earth isn't the blood and hair being given the importance it deserves
does the trial continue today or is it a lay day ?????
Hi Squizzey1
They don't sit on Fridays and Monday is an excursion for the Jury.
At some point that morning, a hose could be seen (and in fact was photographed by the Police) hanging on the bottom post of the stairs; haven't heard it discussed that there were two hoses. Wonder if NBC hung it there when Sergeant JACKSON said 'not to move any more items from the house'!Both the vacuum & the hose...
Text copied from Constable Kieron Ash's statement....
29. Whilst still standing outside and at the bottom of the stairs, Gerard's father Nigel BADEN-CLAY then came down stairs and went underneath the house and came back out with a vacuum cleaner and a green garden hose and began to load these items into the rear boot of the Holden statesman. The Gerard also came downstairs and told me that he had arranged for his father to give him a hand doing some odd real estate jobs today and needed the hose vaccuum cleaner.
30. Sergeant JACKSON then appeared at the top of the stairs and informed me that he did not want any one else to leave the premises and not to allow Nigel BADEN-CLAY to continue putting things in the Holden Statesman. Sergeant JACKSON then called out to Nigel BADEN-CLAY and told him that he didn't want any one to leave and not to move any more items from the house.
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probably a silly question.....what happens if GBC gets off.
is he compensated by the government........do they get any sort of money
payment?
The Police Forensic found some blood on a towel in the shower of a bathroom. The piece of towel which contained the blood was cut out and sent to be tested .............. haven't heard any evidence on the result of this ..........question: could this tested blood prove to be damning for GBC? His face scratches were observed to be 'weeping' (not necessarily containing blood). Wonder whose blood it was found to be?Where did the blood come from.
No heart beating, no blood flow.
Unless Allison's blood pooled into plastic (?) and spilt out into the car or got torn.
There are no sharp edges in the back of that car unless she was pushed in and into something sharp then something could have split the plastic.
That loop where the blood starts lays flat until it is needed and pulls out to tie things to, the photos of the blood shows it's pulled out. Was it this that chipped Allison's tooth?
The blood dripped down where the third row of seats are, that's why it wasn't seen.
I'm thinking aloud trying to understand why there was no blood around the house and no major injuries on Allison and if Allison was dead when placed into the car how was the blood flowing.
After midnight. Rant over.
Yes. Perhaps GBC took exception to Allison having a girlfriend or two to confide in (this was a separate life/privilege he deserved over and over, not Allison)...
When married to a monitor/man such as GBC friends learn quickly to write texts in 'code' to be sensitive and careful not to upset/enrage the monitoring partner.
Perhaps there really was no need for the dresses to be returned... but it gave an excuse for Allison to catch up with her other girlfriend (?)
JMO
You know .. all this business about 'family name' and Allison and Gerard wanting a boy and all this nonsense as if they are some kind of noble family is such utter and complete rubbish .. they were BARELY middle class .. actually in reality they were sliding down fast .. they couldn't afford the school their girls went to, Gerard who was in the industry but hadn't even bought them a family home .. they were in the hole financially and things were getting worse .. it was all a complete illusion .. but it was just so important to them .. sorry, but really?? Talk about appearances over reality. Honestly .. does it even really matter, is it so important to appear to have some kind of social success when in reality your life is a disaster?
How much did this need to 'keep up appearances' play into this tragedy .. I'd suggest a fair bit, is it why Allison didn't speak the truth of her marriage .. was she in denial, or did she know the truth, but didn't know how to tell others, or did she want to keep up appearances herself? Did Gerard go from zero to murder in one night, or had he been physically abusing her for years? What amount of emotional abuse (beyond humiliating her with numerous affairs) went on? How many secrets was Allison keeping, and what stopped her from reaching out for help to the people in her life? When she reached out to a professional she was handed a packet of pills with no attempt to dig into the cause for her distress, as if there is some kind of agreement never to open up a can of worms which could pull down a charade, what a shame.
People looking in from the outside think the leafy middle class suburbs are just as perfect as they seem, but what a social disaster. How many women suffer in silence in order to maintain an illusion? Where do they go for help? Do they tell their friends that they've been trying to impress since high school that things are a disaster, do they go down to centerlink and start finding their way around the social welfare system to support themselves and their kids if they leave or get dumped for a younger woman, do they dust off unused degrees obtained decades ago and hope to find a job with no experience, if in physical danger do they reach out to a women's shelter if they need a safe place?
I guess what I am saying is that this sad need to appear to be living the dream can be incredibly dangerous once you put it above the truth .. Allison's instincts were SCREAMING at her, yet she still didn't leave or reach out, and Gerard was just as miserable .. wanting to leave, but not feeling like he could either and this whole thing has ended in tragedy.
Who really cares what car you drive, what suburb you live in, whether or not your picture perfect marriage turned out to be a joke, put your kids in public school if you can't afford the private one (it might save them from trying to fit an image that's all an illusion themselves one day) find a way, be happy, or at least be honest and safe.
Hi Squizzey1
They don't sit on Fridays and Monday is an excursion for the Jury.
So... what are we all thinking?
Are any of us genuinely worried that he might get off? I know there is always that slight chance... but I'm hoping like heck he is found guilty.
Do we think the prosecution will have enough against him... or the defence will be able to put that bit of doubt there?
I know alot of the time when jurors visit the actual site it can bring it all home to them. Eg:"How could he do this to her?" I'm hoping that when they see the plants in the yard etc that it will all make sense. When they are confronted by the bridge and surroundings, hopefully they will feel the lonliness and isolation that's there, and how a beautiful woman was just left there.
Monday will be a very important day. Hope GBC is shivering in his boots... which I guess he is.