The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 7th July - Trial Day 15

[alioop]

This is the first I have heard of transient suicidal thoughts! Did he make that up?

 

[Freya1977]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 2m

Neither pathologist nor associated experts could determine a cause of death - defence #badenclay

Well, that's because she was left to decay beyond recognition

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 13s

Byrne says pathologist could not determine a place of death. Couldn't exclude body being moved after death, by tide or person. #badenclay

 

[JK673]

This is the first I have heard of transient suicidal thoughts! Did he make that up?

Can he do that??? There was no mention of that that all from her Doctors!

 

[Freya1977]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 42s

He couldn't determine a place of death or whether the body was moved after - defence #badenclay
Pathologist found drowning or a fall could not be excluded as possible causes of death - defence #badenclay

 

[Amee]

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 35s

Also, where did Allison die? The Crown can't say for certain #badenclay

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 51s

Nor can the Crown say when she died, exactly #badenclay

 

[Total]

This is the first I have heard of transient suicidal thoughts! Did he make that up?

He must have...as it is nowhere in any if the evidence by any of the medical experts !

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 7s

Byrne points to Gerard. This person is facing the murder of that woman. And we don't have a cause of death. #badenclay


Byrne reminds the jury again about making their decision "beyond reasonable doubt". #badenclay

 

[Freya1977]

Katrina Blowers ‏@katrinablowers 42s
Defence telling #badenclay jury: pathologist couldn't exclude drowning or fall from height as cause of Allison's death. @7NewsBrisbane

 

[Amee]

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 32s

Allison did have a chipped tooth #badenclay

 

[Freya1977]

Sky News Australia ‏@SkyNewsAust 35s

Defence: Drowning or falling from a height cannot be excluded as possible causes of Allison's death #badenclay (@liztilley84)

 

[JK673]

Katrina Blowers ‏@katrinablowers 42s
Defence telling #badenclay jury: pathologist couldn't exclude drowning or fall from height as cause of Allison's death. @7NewsBrisbane

But he just said there were no broken bones.........

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 22s

Byrne says Allison had a chip on her tooth which couldn't be aged. No other injuries. No cracking to tooth, no damage to jaw. #badenclay

 

[Total]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 42s

He couldn't determine a place of death or whether the body was moved after - defence #badenclay
Pathologist found drowning or a fall could not be excluded as possible causes of death - defence #badenclay

Drowning was excluded due to the absence of diatoms....what a shambles. This is not going to win Byrne any favours with the judge, jury, nor legal profession.....one does not make up stuff to try and strengthen a weak defence.

 

[Amee]

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 59s

It couldn't be aged (meaning, it's not clear when she got it) but Allison's jaw wasn't cracked #badenclay

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 42s

Nor was the tooth loose #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 27s

Byrne says the prosecution has to prove murderous intent - but no injuries detectable. Nothing, whatsoever. #badenclay

 

[Texx]

Just going to go out on a limb here and say the "last person to see Allison alive" would in actual fact have been her killer. So Mr Byrne, that was Gerard was it? No no, good argument :floorlaugh:

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Sky News Australia ‏@SkyNewsAust 1m
Defence: 'Not only was there no determination of cause of death, there was no determination of definite injuries' #badenclay (@liztilley84)

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Pathologist noted Allison's medical history of moderate to severe depressive disorder,transient suicidal thoughts - defence #badenclay

Wait, what?!
(BBM)

 

[Oddsocks]

But he just said there were no broken bones.........

The autopsy implies it could be a fall into water or mud I think

 

[Anonthemouse]

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 59s

It couldn't be aged (meaning, it's not clear when she got it) but Allison's jaw wasn't cracked #badenclay

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 42s

Nor was the tooth loose #badenclay

But wasn't it a sharp edge?