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The death of Fahim Dashty, a well-known Afghan journalist and spokesperson of the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan, who was killed in fighting in Panjshir province on Sunday, was a “target killing", Sources told News18.


Dashty was a senior member of the Jamiat-e-Islami party and also a member of the Federation of Afghan Journalists. The NRFA later confirmed that Dashti had been killed in the fighting.

The Resistance Force’s headquarters were attacked by a Pakistan plane on Sunday night in the Dashtak area of Panjshir.

Pakistan Air Force Drones Killed Afghan Resistance Group Spokesperson in ‘Targeted’ Attack


ETA:
"Iran's Foreign Ministry’s Spokesman Saeed Khatibzadeh has criticized Sunday evening’s aerial attacks on the Panjshir valley in northern Afghanistan allegedly carried out by Pakistan in support of the Taliban, who claimed Monday that they have captured the opposition stronghold..."

As Taliban Claim Victory In Panjshir, Iran Slams Pakistan Military's Role
 
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worldwatcher said:
The death of Fahim Dashty, a well-known Afghan journalist and spokesperson of the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan, who was killed in fighting in Panjshir province on Sunday, was a “target killing", Sources told News18.


Dashty was a senior member of the Jamiat-e-Islami party and also a member of the Federation of Afghan Journalists. The NRFA later confirmed that Dashti had been killed in the fighting.

The Resistance Force’s headquarters were attacked by a Pakistan plane on Sunday night in the Dashtak area of Panjshir.

Pakistan Air Force Drones Killed Afghan Resistance Group Spokesperson in ‘Targeted’ Attack


ETA:
"Iran's Foreign Ministry’s Spokesman Saeed Khatibzadeh has criticized Sunday evening’s aerial attacks on the Panjshir valley in northern Afghanistan allegedly carried out by Pakistan in support of the Taliban, who claimed Monday that they have captured the opposition stronghold..."

As Taliban Claim Victory In Panjshir, Iran Slams Pakistan Military's Role
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All that military equipment left behind is being put to good use by the Taliban and their friends. What an unfortunate situation.
 
Taliban holds up Glenn Beck group's planes; at least 100 Americans among passengers

Six private charter planes seeking to evacuate at least 1,000 people—including more than 100 Americans—out of Afghanistan have been grounded by the Taliban amid negotiations with the U.S. State Department, an official with an NGO working on the evacuation told Newsweek.

The would-be passengers have yet to board the planes in the city of Mazar-i-Sharif, which were chartered by Mercury One, a charity founded by Christian conservative media personality Glenn Beck.

Three other evacuation flights—two on a plane chartered by international development organization Sayara, and one by Goldbelt, Inc., an Alaska Native corporation. According to a second senior NGO official Sayara is set to carry 700 passengers, with at least 19 of who are Americans, have also been grounded by the Taliban awaiting clearance., a second senior NGO official told Newsweek.

Both NGO officials said the Taliban grounded the flights amid a breakdown in negotiations with the State Department, with one adding that the Taliban could be attempting to "shake down" the airline or State Department for money in exchange for takeoff clearance.
 
More about Pakistan:

"The leaders of the resistance forces have said that Pakistan’s drones are being used to carry out attacks in Panjshir.


Since Pakistan cannot directly send its Air Force to attack, they are using drones. These drones, which are capable of aiming accurately, are being used to drop bombs in Panjshir.


Incidentally, chief of Pakistan's intelligence agency ISI Lieutenant General Faiz Hameed on Saturday reached Kabul where he met with the Taliban leaders. The ISI chief is said to have asked Taliban leaders to give the Haqqani network a greater role in the new government. The visit certainly raises questions on Pakistan’s involvement with the Taliban."

DNA Exclusive: Fall of Panjshir? Pakistan's footprints 'visible' in Taliban win over Resistance Army?
 
worldwatcher said:
More about Pakistan:

"The leaders of the resistance forces have said that Pakistan’s drones are being used to carry out attacks in Panjshir.


Since Pakistan cannot directly send its Air Force to attack, they are using drones. These drones, which are capable of aiming accurately, are being used to drop bombs in Panjshir.


Incidentally, chief of Pakistan's intelligence agency ISI Lieutenant General Faiz Hameed on Saturday reached Kabul where he met with the Taliban leaders. The ISI chief is said to have asked Taliban leaders to give the Haqqani network a greater role in the new government. The visit certainly raises questions on Pakistan’s involvement with the Taliban."

DNA Exclusive: Fall of Panjshir? Pakistan's footprints 'visible' in Taliban win over Resistance Army?
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Ignorant questions perhaps but..
It is all so convoluted, but do i understand correctly that Pakistan helps the Taliban?
If so, is there extra security at airports for people coming from there, do people from Pakistan support the governments efforts to help the Taliban, and if that is true, do the Taliban also have support from ex-pats?
speculation, imo.
 
dotr said:
Ignorant questions perhaps but..
It is all so convoluted, but do i understand correctly that Pakistan helps the Taliban?
If so, is there extra security at airports for people coming from there, do people from Pakistan support the governments efforts to help the Taliban, and if that is true, do the Taliban also have support from ex-pats?
speculation, imo.
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I really don't know,seems to me : "where there is smoke ,there is fire"
With Chief ISI from Pakistan rushing to meet the Taliban in Kabul,can't be any
coincidence,right after the USA and NATO pulled out.
Most people seemed to be in hiding.It must be very dangerous to get a word out.Media is controlled by Taliban.
Imo

Who is ISI chief Faiz Hameed whose visit to Kabul has sparked controversy?

Also cutting off electricity,phone lines ,internet leads to confusion what was/is going on in Panjshir.They don't want the world to see.
Panjshir: Taliban cuts electricity, medicine supply; Karzai for end to fighting

The economy is really bad in Pakistan,so every day's struggle to survive for the people there.

How Pakistan’s Economy Is Failing Its People

I think the Taliban needs foreign allies to start everything up for full control of Afghanistan.They can't face that on their own.
MOO
 
Sept 6 2021
''A lot has changed since the Taliban were last in charge, like cell phones and social media. But much has not, especially Afghanistan's enduring problem: poverty. The week after Kabul fell a local journalist took a road trip from the border to the capital. On this journey, two things become clear: the financial mess Afghanistan is in and the sharp shift to religious rule. CNN's Nic Robertson reports.''
 
dotr said:
Sept 6 2021 [edited to comment on second video]
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At 35.5 minutes, there's footage of the bomb blast before the bodies are removed. This entire video of on-the-ground in-the-moment footage sends home the message what a serious humanitarian disaster this is. Thirty million people relied on the USA for stability, this was abruptly ignored, and as a result Allies will be reluctant to trust the USA (per the video).

That is above and beyond the death sentences that have been imposed on Afghan interpreters and their families. Because the Taliban were provided with all of their personal information, including biometrics, they and their families are in hiding. Their children cannot go to school. They cannot go outside.
 
That video makes a powerful statement, with the final remark that:
  • if the Afghan people are abandoned, it will come back to haunt the USA,
  • then it becomes a repeated cycle, with the USA retaliating, then Afghan (aligned with Pakistan, Russia and China) retaliating, and so it goes.
 
Imagine a world where thousands are lined up in a sewage drainage ditch; wet feet, because they fear invasion. Imagine the only people who can help; who promised for the last 20 years to help, abruptly run from the invaders. I find it a bit mind boggling, especially since allies announced that they were ready to remain on the ground in Afghanistan to help oversee a smooth transition. Canada offered, but wanted assurances that the USA needed help with the transitional government. Canada wasn't needed other than a 3700 people airlift.

There we have it. Sewage drainage ditches at the airport gate, filled with 200 bloodied bodies, panic as victims were rushed to hospital amid covid. That is what the 30 million people of Afghanistan face under Taliban Rule. An entire generation has grown up in the last 20 years. They will not take easily to oppression. At the same time, the Taliban is largely uneducated men who were recruited as child soldiers. They were indoctrinated with extreme Muslim beliefs, and taught war tactics. It almost seems like a battle between the intellectuals and the brutes.

 
Hard to swallow, I never going to forget about how Pasjhir was failed by Nato, EU and the USA
MOO

1 - The Taliban were able to surround the valley, and to effectively cut off supply lines of arms, ammunition, fighters, food, and fuel to the resistance.

2- Pakistan helped the Taliban with arms, ammunition and, reports suggest, even fighter jets to outmanoeuvre the opposition

3 - The US and its allies abandoned the Northern Alliance completely.

4 - Ahmad is clearly not yet in the league of his father, among the greatest guerrilla fighters of the last century.

5 - "

Very different from the 1990s: 5 takeaways from the fall of Panjshir
 
Rbbm. (Unfortunate use of words considering where they are, imo :()
Canadians left in Kabul running out of food, time, hope | Toronto Sun
Sept 6 2021
“They’re scared for their lives.”
''Canadian citizens left stranded after airlifts out of Kabul ended two weeks ago are quickly losing hope, particularly as allies continue evacuating their citizens via another city.''

''One woman, whose elderly, Canadian citizen parents from Toronto are trapped in Kabul, told the Toronto Sun they now live in a state of fear — particularly after Global Affairs Canada (GAC) offered to reveal her parents’ location to “local authorities.”
In other words, the Taliban.
“I said absolutely not,” she said.

“That would actually just make them a target.”

Foreigners, particularly North Americans, are often targeted by kidnappers seeking large ransoms — something she knows first hand after her brother was kidnapped while visiting Afghanistan a few years ago.''

''Discouraging still are reports of other foreigners being evacuated via Mazar-i-Sharif, a precarious 11-hour drive from Kabul.

“They asked me, ‘Are we supposed to be headed over there, too?'” the woman said.

“I didn’t want to tell them to go to Mazar-i-Sharif, which is an 11-hour drive, and wait there like they did at the Baron Hotel.”
 
dotr said:
Rbbm. (Unfortunate use of words considering where they are, imo :()
Canadians left in Kabul running out of food, time, hope | Toronto Sun
Sept 6 2021
“They’re scared for their lives.”
''Canadian citizens left stranded after airlifts out of Kabul ended two weeks ago are quickly losing hope, particularly as allies continue evacuating their citizens via another city.''

''One woman, whose elderly, Canadian citizen parents from Toronto are trapped in Kabul, told the Toronto Sun they now live in a state of fear — particularly after Global Affairs Canada (GAC) offered to reveal her parents’ location to “local authorities.”
In other words, the Taliban.
“I said absolutely not,” she said.

“That would actually just make them a target.”

Foreigners, particularly North Americans, are often targeted by kidnappers seeking large ransoms — something she knows first hand after her brother was kidnapped while visiting Afghanistan a few years ago.''

''Discouraging still are reports of other foreigners being evacuated via Mazar-i-Sharif, a precarious 11-hour drive from Kabul.

“They asked me, ‘Are we supposed to be headed over there, too?'” the woman said.

“I didn’t want to tell them to go to Mazar-i-Sharif, which is an 11-hour drive, and wait there like they did at the Baron Hotel.”
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It is all heartbreaking..,isn't it?
All the despair going on, in Afghanistan..after the suddenly withdraw from our country's.

It shocks me,tbh ,that around 20 yrs ago,there was a demand,plead to fight terrorism and now...:(

I am lost for words,and even though I am thankful that I can get up,every morning to my job,my kids,my dogs,my house.Waken up in a safe country with water running,food to be bought and on my table.Not afraid of my neighbors,or a knock at the door...

With all this said, sometimes-in times like these,I really blame my gov and the western world,by making such horrible decions ,leaving abdomen others life without a care.
 
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