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Cathy ‏@courtchatter 5m5 minutes ago
Detective Piper takes the stand in #JustinRossHarris #RossHarris #HotCarDeath hearing


Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 5m5 minutes ago
Defense not getting "Carte Blanche" to file additional #JustinRossHarris #hotcardeathh motions

Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 7m7 minutes ago
DA says there no "material misstatements" by police but perhaps were some "inaccuracies" in #JustinRossHarris #hotcardeath investigation
 
Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 10m10 minutes ago

We still haven't heard who #JustinRossHarris was on phone with when police arrived on #hotcardeath scene. It wasn't 911 ...
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Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 14m14 minutes ago

#JustinRossHarris cursed and moved at cops in threatening manner per witnesses in #hotcardeath case
 
Finally! some forward movement on this case!

Thanks for the batsignal ATL. :seeya:
 
Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 6m6 minutes ago
#JustinRossHarris wanted to stay on his phone per Ofc Piper-but who was he talking to? Not 911-not wife #HotCarDeath


Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 17m17 minutes ago
#JustinRossHarris was "pulling away" from cops - had to use force to get him cuffed per Officer Piper in #HotCarDeath case - used 2 pair

Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 20m20 minutes ago
Elephant in the room: who was #JustinRossHarris on phone with at scene of #HotCarDeath ? Wasn't 911 ...
 
:bump: for ease of finding livestream links for those coming in late (lol, as I know that's what I always ask for when I come in late to court :biggrin: )

atthelake said:
For today's hearing EDITED TO ADD: We are live and in court - Streaming right now here with vinnie http://www.11alive.com/story/news/2015/12/14/ross-harris-trial/77275754/


The below is OP

http://original.livestream.com/11alive_web is livestream page, or channel 1 on their direct site http://www.11alive.com/video/75564425001/0/11Alive-LIVE-Video-Channel-1 (or might be channel 4 on their site at http://www.11alive.com/video/live_4/.

The 11Alive app for droid streaming is at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gannett.local.library.news.wxia&hl=en

The 11Alive app for iphone streaming is at https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/11alivenews/id461033172?mt=8

HTH

I haven't found any information on what time the hearing starts.
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WAT has the whole morning's hearing up on their site. I can't seem to post it here because I am inept on my iPad.
 
HLNVerified account ‏@HLNTV 2h2 hours ago
Inside court today: #JustinRossHarris & wife reportedly admit to searching what temp would cause death in a hot car http://on.hln.tv/26dlwQ
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Cathy ‏@courtchatter 17m17 minutes ago
#JustinRossHarris Hearing about to get underway. http://www.courtchatter.com/#!justin-ross-harris-hearing-live-stream-1/c1mvm … #HotCarDeath
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croakerqueen123 ‏@croakerqueen 32m32 minutes ago
#JustinRossHarris - Hearing - Part 1 (December 14) #HotCarDeath: http://youtu.be/zk1pi26WNQ8?a
 
catching up as I can on lunch break
 
Watching earlier hearing. I give the defense credit for salesmanship on this warrant argument. He gives your honor "a chance today to make a historical decision. Previous courts have made the wrong decision and continue to allow wide latitude in the area of warrants and probable cause." [paraphrased right there not direct quote]

in other words, we do not like what was found on all these warrants and so we want you to do what other courts have not done in similar circumstances and throw out those warrants and therefore the results of those warrants.
 
Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 24m24 minutes ago
Defense tries making the case that search warrants are too easily granted in #HotCarDeath #JustinRossHarris investigation


Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 33m33 minutes ago
Murphy confirms he misspoke to magistrate about #JustinRossHarris alleged statements on temp required to cause a #HotCarDeath


Philip A. Holloway ‏@PhilHollowayEsq 37m37 minutes ago
Defense points out that Murphy considers watching a TV show as "research" by #JustinRossHarris in #HotCarDeath investigation

https://twitter.com/PhilHollowayEsq
 
I dont' know the law, yet as a layperson, I would not qualify the looking at a news report on the television as "research". I tend to think of research as a proactive effort. Interesting hearing.

It appears this point is a turning point on the law so will be interesting.

iirc, there were a few other things that they said the LE misled on, perhaps that will be tomorrow.

I do find it very interesting in the different cases I have followed as to the demeanor of the prosecutors and the defense attys.

What low key attys and judge... all just so matter of fact without the drama of the last 3 I have viewed on WS
 
I think if would depend. If Harris specifically sought out news reports via a web search about a specific topic (say hot car deaths) and then proceeded to watch them, then I would consider it research. If while watching the news on television station a story appeared about hot car deaths and they watched it, I would not consider that research just regular tv viewing.

Can't wait to get off work and catch some more of the video of the hearing.
 
Thank you ATL and tycla for posting the tweets and links. This case will be interesting. The lack of emotion on the part of the defendant I guess is to be expected. He didn't show much emotion the previous times he was in court. I wonder if he and his wife think he will be acquitted?
 
I was a little jarred by the detective's statement that he 'misspoke' to the magistrate, but I also am of the opinion that watching a news report could be termed as 'research' if it was searched for, or if it prompted additional searches.

Also, the attorney seems to be implying that there is something unusual about a detective who is not at the actual scene or interrogating the suspect requesting the search warrant: that's something that happens all the time, and as the detective stated, he relied on statements by the investigating officers. This attorney is IMO searching for any tiny crack he can find to discredit the search warrants and get the whole thing thrown out.

For example, if illegal drugs are found in a car used by two individuals, it is reasonable to assume that either or both of them could have been responsible. So if a cell phone or tablet is in a home or a car used by two individuals it is reasonable to assume that either or both of them could have used that device. This is in regard to saying that Mrs. Harris wouldn't reasonably have used a phone that was found in the car that Ross Harris was driving.

It is also silly IMO for the defense to keep repeating 'so you had no evidence at all that these searches were actually made before you obtained the warrant.' No, they had probable cause to search for evidence, that is how it works. If you had to have the evidence before you could search for the evidence no one would ever get convicted unless they committed the crime right under the eyes of LE.

Definitely the most drama-free hearing I have ever watched, though!
 
I live in Georgia in the Atlanta area and I attended the Hemy Newman /Andrea Sneiderman case (grrrr retrial upon the appeal now next year!!! She live less than 2 miles from me grrrr ...)

But I must say... perhaps it's because I'm a Georgian.. I really enjoy following the Georgia trials. There's no drama like the Caylee case ..the Bashara case ..the Alexander case ... I could go on and on as far as the case drama in court.

In court the Georgia cases are just so matter of fact and law based ..I like it to follow as a :websleuther:
 
This whole probable cause warrant argument is confusing in regards to the hot car death searches.

Justin Ross Harris told police who were interviewing him immediately after the death of his son was discovered that he had a great deal of knowledge about hot car deaths and that he came by that knowledge through researching the topic.

Am I remembering that rightly?

The Georgia father charged with murder for leaving his 22-month-old son in a hot car told police that he had done online research about child deaths in vehicles and “what temperature it needs to be,” according to warrants released Saturday.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...s-told-police-he-researched-child-car-n143286

"Leanna Harris, the child's mother, was also questioned regarding the incident and made similar statements regarding researching in car deaths and how it occurs,'' according to new search warrants made public Sunday. The warrants were released by Cobb County magistrate officials, and obtained by Fox 5 in Atlanta, and other media outlets.

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2014/06/wife_of_justin_ross_harris_als.html

So the parents both made statements to police about searches for hot car deaths to LE while being interviewed during the death investigations and police used those statements to get warrants as they demonstrated probable cause.

Seems pretty cut and dried to me. They said hey we looked this stuff up and so police said hey, I think we may want to look at their devices and see this history of looking things up.
 
Minette said:
I was a little jarred by the detective's statement that he 'misspoke' to the magistrate, but I also am of the opinion that watching a news report could be termed as 'research' if it was searched for, or if it prompted additional searches.

Also, the attorney seems to be implying that there is something unusual about a detective who is not at the actual scene or interrogating the suspect requesting the search warrant: that's something that happens all the time, and as the detective stated, he relied on statements by the investigating officers. This attorney is IMO searching for any tiny crack he can find to discredit the search warrants and get the whole thing thrown out.

For example, if illegal drugs are found in a car used by two individuals, it is reasonable to assume that either or both of them could have been responsible. So if a cell phone or tablet is in a home or a car used by two individuals it is reasonable to assume that either or both of them could have used that device. This is in regard to saying that Mrs. Harris wouldn't reasonably have used a phone that was found in the car that Ross Harris was driving.

It is also silly IMO for the defense to keep repeating 'so you had no evidence at all that these searches were actually made before you obtained the warrant.' No, they had probable cause to search for evidence, that is how it works. If you had to have the evidence before you could search for the evidence no one would ever get convicted unless they committed the crime right under the eyes of LE.

Definitely the most drama-free hearing I have ever watched, though!
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For those that live locally and those who have followed there are a couple "mispeaks " to come later.

Please note that in no way I am in any way supporting the defense.. I just know that I have lived here and stuff is going to come out and I'm very interested in how the law is going to handle that situation
 
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