I am aware that Larry and Gary are twins. I was comparing Larry's mugshot to the suspect's sketch. :twocents:
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I am aware that Larry and Gary are twins. I was comparing Larry's mugshot to the suspect's sketch. :twocents:
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Just playing Devils Advocate here, I've never seen anywhere that its been shown that Larry DeWayne Hall acted in the company of another when he committed his crimes.
From everything I've ever seen or read about him, his brother Gary was a normal, guy with a normal life. Wife, Kids, Morgage...etc.
Plus Larry DeWayne Hall is Criminally Insane, and it is well known that people like him are known to have no problem passing polygraphs, because they don't have the emotional attachments and reactions to things like normal people do. They live in their own world.
Now Larry DeWayne Hall (HIM SELF) minus his twin brother Gary......I would buy that for sure. I've always considered him a suspect. There was a Battle of Butler Mo. Civil War re-enactment approx 2-Months prior to the 3MW crime. Butler, Mo is a little north of Nevada, Mo, north of Carthage. And Wilsons Creek National Battle Field is located approx. 2-miles south west of Janelle Kirbys home at the time.
I'm going to post a profile/timeline/psychological study what was done on Larry DeWayne Hall. Its a good place to start digging into just who Larry DeWayne Hall was and the things he did, and the things they though he was responsible for. I've always thought he was a very likely suspect!!!
You're all going to hate me for how long this is, but its definitely worth the read. This study I found on Larry DeWayne Hall, allows for a good analysis of his Methods, Areas of travel, Vehicle description, psychological profile, background history, personal habits...etc. There's also a compelling documentary on him on Youtube I would recommend watching. He could be the guy, he had the MO, he had a van, he loved Civil War Sites and Re-enactments. Look at this professional profile conducted on him by Dept of Psychology, Rad ford University.
Information researched and summarized by
Brittany Begley, Kasey Frith, & Kari Elliot
Department of Psychology
Radford University
Radford, VA 24142-6946
Radford University
Radford, VA 24142-6946
Date Age Life Event
12/11/1962 0
Larry and his twin brother Gary were born to Robert Hall and his wife in Wabash,
Indiana. They lived their entire lives at Falls Cemetery, where the twin brothers
constantly helped their sexton father dig graves.
08/ 1968 5
Larry and his twin brother Gary started attending West Ward Elementary School. Larry
was very anti-social while in school, he had a very low IQ, and was often teased through
school for being slower than the other children, also for his nightmares, speech
impediment and bedwetting.)
1970-
1980s
10-
20s
Larry is suspected of committing various acts of arson, vandalism, and petty crimes
throughout his home town
02/05/1981 18
Alleged Victim (still missing): Dean Marie Pyle Peters (age 14) disappeared from Forest
Hills Central Middle School in Grand Rapids Michigan. Hall is believed to be her
abductor.
08/31/1981 18 Alleged Victim (still missing): Debra jean Cole was last seen at her home in Lebanon,
Indiana. Hall is also a suspect in her disappearance.
08/06/1985 22
Alleged Victim (still missing): Jennifer Lee Schmidt age 19. Vanished from Purude
University, 5 days after her disappearance a body was found of Marcie Swinford in a
wooded area near Honey creek in Southern Vigo County. She had been strangled and
sexual mutilated.
03/28/1986 23 Alleged Victim (still missing): Denise Diane Pflum disappeared from Connersville,
Indiana. Hall was in the area during her disappearance.
September
1986 23
Alleged Victim: Jane Doe was found in southern Illinois. Her body was exhumed in
2002 and identified as a 28-year old drifter from California named Pholia Mylia Chavez.
She had been strangled like Jessica Roach and was found in a corn field, her mutilation
injuries were similar to other cases which Larry Hall is a suspect in.
December
1986 23/24 Alleged Victim (still missing): Kimberly Ann Thompson went missing from Champaign,
Illinois. Once again Hall was in the area during her disappearance.
02/24/1987 24 Alleged victim: Linda Weldy (10) disappears.
03/11/1987 24 Alleged Victim: Diana Jane Braungardt (18) disappears after finishing her shift at the
Venture store near the Missouri/Illinois border. Her body was never found.
03/17/1987 24
Fully-clothed body of Linda Weldy is found in a remote area near her home. Coroner
told police Weldy died from manual strangulation shortly after she was abducted. LA
Porte Police followed over 100 leads in the Weldys abduction and death but were never
able to solve the crime.
06/04/1987 24
Alleged Victim: Wendy Felton (16) disappears. At first, the Grant County Sheriffs
Department assumed she ran away because a suitcase and various clothing items had
turned up missing. She disappeared less than 25 miles from Wabash, Indiana (Larrys
home town), and located only a few miles away from a reenactment site that Larry often
visited. Has yet to be found today.
September,
1987 24 Jane Doe (20) found in Lincolnville, KS police believe Larry Hall was involved.
February
1988 25 Jane Doe (19) found in Millen, GA - Hall is believed to be her abductor
09/02/1988 25 Alleged Victim: Paulette Webster (19) went missing near a historic landmark that Hall
often visited in Chester, Illinois. She is still missing.
09/20/1988 25 Alleged Victim: Cynthia Louise Carmack (16). Kidnapped near the Fort Hamilton
historical site.
12/16/1988 26
Alleged Victim: Jane Doe Age 20-25 was discovered on the east side of north bound lane
of interstate 59. Approximately 5 miles from Georgia/ Alabama state line. Was
mutilated and strangled to death. Was located near a civil war battle site.
03/11/1989 26
Alleged Victim: Aundria Bowman (15). Was last seen near Hamilton. Since Larry Hall
had been known to have cruised the cities and towns along U.S. 31 in Indiana and
Michigan looking for victims. Bowman is still missing.
06/02/1989 26 Alleged Victim (still missing): Penny Dawn Lease (23). Last seen leaving Omny college
center. Larry Hall frequently visited college towns looking for victims
06/26/1989 26 Alleged Victim (still missing): Lynn Ann Thompson age 26. Her car was found in the
K-mart parking lot. Near a reenactment site that Hall regularly visited.
08/05/1989 26
Alleged Victim (still missing): Tracy Marie Kroh (17). Krohs car was found
Millersburg Town Square her purse was missing but there was no indication of foul play
on or around the vehicle. Her ID, National honor society card and other parts of her wallet
were found in a remote area along Wiconisco Creek Washington township 9 miles from
her home. Case went cold.
10/01/1989 26 Alleged Victim: Janet Rose Dolgae (28). Last seen wearing her work shirt and dress
pants. Last seen in the 500 block of Geauga Portage Easterly Road. Still missing.
July 1990 27 Jane Doe found in Madison County, IL age 25 ( Larry Hall is believed to have been
involved)
07/17/1990 27
Alleged Victim: Bert Beck age 18. Becks 1987 GMC van was found Thursday morning
by fond du lock police parked in the K-mart parking lot. There was a receipt found from
Walgreens from 11:02am her purse was still in the van with her clothes. Police suspected
foul play from Becks disappearance and police wondered how someone could go
missing in broad day light. Her body was found Wednesday August 22
Larry and his twin brother Gary were born to Robert Hall and his wife in Wabash,
Indiana. They lived their entire lives at Falls Cemetery, where the twin brothers
constantly helped their sexton father dig graves.
08/ 1968 5
Larry and his twin brother Gary started attending West Ward Elementary School. Larry
was very anti-social while in school, he had a very low IQ, and was often teased through
school for being slower than the other children, also for his nightmares, speech
impediment and bedwetting.)
1970-
1980s
10-
20s
Larry is suspected of committing various acts of arson, vandalism, and petty crimes
throughout his home town
02/05/1981 18
Alleged Victim (still missing): Dean Marie Pyle Peters (age 14) disappeared from Forest
Hills Central Middle School in Grand Rapids Michigan. Hall is believed to be her
abductor.
08/31/1981 18 Alleged Victim (still missing): Debra jean Cole was last seen at her home in Lebanon,
Indiana. Hall is also a suspect in her disappearance.
08/06/1985 22
Alleged Victim (still missing): Jennifer Lee Schmidt age 19. Vanished from Purude
University, 5 days after her disappearance a body was found of Marcie Swinford in a
wooded area near Honey creek in Southern Vigo County. She had been strangled and
sexual mutilated.
03/28/1986 23 Alleged Victim (still missing): Denise Diane Pflum disappeared from Connersville,
Indiana. Hall was in the area during her disappearance.
September
1986 23
Alleged Victim: Jane Doe was found in southern Illinois. Her body was exhumed in
2002 and identified as a 28-year old drifter from California named Pholia Mylia Chavez.
She had been strangled like Jessica Roach and was found in a corn field, her mutilation
injuries were similar to other cases which Larry Hall is a suspect in.
December
1986 23/24 Alleged Victim (still missing): Kimberly Ann Thompson went missing from Champaign,
Illinois. Once again Hall was in the area during her disappearance.
02/24/1987 24 Alleged victim: Linda Weldy (10) disappears.
03/11/1987 24 Alleged Victim: Diana Jane Braungardt (18) disappears after finishing her shift at the
Venture store near the Missouri/Illinois border. Her body was never found.
03/17/1987 24
Fully-clothed body of Linda Weldy is found in a remote area near her home. Coroner
told police Weldy died from manual strangulation shortly after she was abducted. LA
Porte Police followed over 100 leads in the Weldys abduction and death but were never
able to solve the crime.
06/04/1987 24
Alleged Victim: Wendy Felton (16) disappears. At first, the Grant County Sheriffs
Department assumed she ran away because a suitcase and various clothing items had
turned up missing. She disappeared less than 25 miles from Wabash, Indiana (Larrys
home town), and located only a few miles away from a reenactment site that Larry often
visited. Has yet to be found today.
September,
1987 24 Jane Doe (20) found in Lincolnville, KS police believe Larry Hall was involved.
February
1988 25 Jane Doe (19) found in Millen, GA - Hall is believed to be her abductor
09/02/1988 25 Alleged Victim: Paulette Webster (19) went missing near a historic landmark that Hall
often visited in Chester, Illinois. She is still missing.
09/20/1988 25 Alleged Victim: Cynthia Louise Carmack (16). Kidnapped near the Fort Hamilton
historical site.
12/16/1988 26
Alleged Victim: Jane Doe Age 20-25 was discovered on the east side of north bound lane
of interstate 59. Approximately 5 miles from Georgia/ Alabama state line. Was
mutilated and strangled to death. Was located near a civil war battle site.
03/11/1989 26
Alleged Victim: Aundria Bowman (15). Was last seen near Hamilton. Since Larry Hall
had been known to have cruised the cities and towns along U.S. 31 in Indiana and
Michigan looking for victims. Bowman is still missing.
06/02/1989 26 Alleged Victim (still missing): Penny Dawn Lease (23). Last seen leaving Omny college
center. Larry Hall frequently visited college towns looking for victims
06/26/1989 26 Alleged Victim (still missing): Lynn Ann Thompson age 26. Her car was found in the
K-mart parking lot. Near a reenactment site that Hall regularly visited.
08/05/1989 26
Alleged Victim (still missing): Tracy Marie Kroh (17). Krohs car was found
Millersburg Town Square her purse was missing but there was no indication of foul play
on or around the vehicle. Her ID, National honor society card and other parts of her wallet
were found in a remote area along Wiconisco Creek Washington township 9 miles from
her home. Case went cold.
10/01/1989 26 Alleged Victim: Janet Rose Dolgae (28). Last seen wearing her work shirt and dress
pants. Last seen in the 500 block of Geauga Portage Easterly Road. Still missing.
July 1990 27 Jane Doe found in Madison County, IL age 25 ( Larry Hall is believed to have been
involved)
07/17/1990 27
Alleged Victim: Bert Beck age 18. Becks 1987 GMC van was found Thursday morning
by fond du lock police parked in the K-mart parking lot. There was a receipt found from
Walgreens from 11:02am her purse was still in the van with her clothes. Police suspected
foul play from Becks disappearance and police wondered how someone could go
missing in broad day light. Her body was found Wednesday August 22
nd, 1990 by a
farmer in a ditch near Waupin, Wisconsin she had been gagged with a red bandana.
Authorities believe she was sexual assaulted and strangled.
07/20/1990 27
Alleged Victim: Jane Doe age approximately 25. Cause of death was multiple stab
wounds to her neck and torso. Autopsy revealed she had been sexual mutilated. The
killer removed her reproductive organs.
February
1991 28 Jane Doe found in Frederick County, VA age 30. Larry Hall is a suspect
03/02/1991 28
Alleged Victim: (Still missing, case is still active due to parents) Julie Johnson age 29.
She drove a light blue Chevrolet and it was found abandoned along Indiana State Rd. 22
near County Road 300E and Howard County. She had taken her four children to a movie
Friday evening. Took them home and tucked them in and disappeared. Husband reported
her missing on Saturday. Car was found less than 35 miles from Wabash.
07/01/1991 28
Alleged Victim: Michelle Dewey age 20. Murdered by strangulation and had been cut.
Indianapolis, Indiana. She was sunbathing with her son and was waiting for the sitter.
The sitter called police after seeing blood and son was found in a closet untouched. Hall
visited Indianapolis that day after seeing a sales ad for a 1980 blue dodge van. They think
he spotted Dewey in the yard and then went into her house and murdered her.
07/25/1991 28
Alleged Victim/Hall admitted picking up a woman in Clearmont on the west side of
Indianapolis (He remembered the woman did not want to go with him and had to be
forced). Georgia Schreve (37). She was last seen at a truck stop in Indianapolis on
Thursday. Truck driver found her body on August 5 in a ditch next to the westbound on
ramp of interstate 74 at Indiana start Rt 25.
09/06/1991 28 Wabash, Indiana. Robert Heath, a friend of Larry and Gary died. WW II Marine owned
a cleaning business.
01/09/1992 29
Alleged Victim: Holly Ann Anderson age 18. Body was found in a field along CR 1450.
The site was near Perrysville, Indiana. Stabbed at least twice in the chest and had been
there for about two hours. She was found less than 2 miles where Hall confessed he
dumped Jessica Roach.
March 1992 29 Jane Doe found in Fulton County, GA age 25. Hall is a suspect in her disappearance.
06/07/1992 29
Alleged Victims: Stacey McCall (18), Suzanne Streeter (19), and Sherill Levitt (47).
Springfield, Missouri. The two younger girls had graduated the night before. Streeter
and Levitt lived in Springfield. Witness saw a blonde driving an older dodge van later on
Sunday. The witness said an unseen male voice told her not to do anything stupid. Larry
Hall had a dodge van similar to the witnesss accounts.
June of 1992 29 Jane Doe found in Berks County, PA age 25. Hall is a suspect in her disappearance.
08/19/1992 29
Alleged Victim: Laurie Depies age 20. Last seen at Foxriver Mall not far from US 41.
Larie parked her car and disappeared. Her overnight bag and purse were locked in car.
Civil War reenactment was held at Grignon Mansion in Kaukauana, WI three days before
her abduction. The mansion is ten miles away from where she vanished and Depsies is
mentioned in Halls diary. Also recalled traveling to WI in his November 15, 1994
confession.
08/29/1992 29
Alleged Victim: Toni Spicer (27). She left her job at the Hip Hugger in Kokomo at 3:00
a.m. and was found dead in her home at 7:00 a.m. by a babysitter who was dripping off
two of Spicers children. The location is a short drive from where Julie Johnson
disappeared in 1991 and less than 30 miles from Wabash.
09/05/1992 29
Alleged Victim (still missing): Bridget Clod Felter age unknown. She left her apartment
for a country bar called the Buckboard to meet her sister and never made it and has not
been heard from since. The rout to the bar was heavily wooded and there are nearby sites
of Civil War Battles Dallas and the Battle of Atlanta.
01/17/1993 30 Alleged Victim (still missing): Laura Lynn Thompson (15). US 224 is a straight line
between Hunnington and Wabash.
03/26/1993 30
Alleged Victim: Rayna Rison (16). She worked at the animal hospital and was last seen
by the receptionist at 6:00 p.m. Her car was found with the doors locked and the keys in
the ignition. Purse was found on front seat and her hood was up but there were no
problems with the car. Her hair barret was found next to car and her boyfriends jacket
was found six miles from the car. Officers say the jacket was not there during the search.
Fisherman found the body fully-clothed floating near a pond. Someone tried to conceal
the body with branches. She had been strangled but not sexually assaulted. In 1994
police did a search of Halls possessions and birth control was found with R. Rison on it.
03/29/1993 30
Alleged Victim: Tricia Reitler (19). She was a freshman at Wesleyan University. She
left her dormitory around 8:00 p.m. to shop at a nearby supermarket. She purchased a
root beer and a Family Circle magazine and has not been seen since.
04/06/1993 30
Stalked Victims: Heather Edgett (20) and Kristian Zoeller (19) were coming home from
the store heading back to Wesleyan University where they noticed a brown and tan van
following them. They ran back to campus and called a security guard. The security
guard, a former police officer, followed the van and pulled Larry Hall over, where Larry
gave an address to a friends house he was trying to find. However, when Beck contacted
police for help with the address he found it was a fake address.
September
of 1993 30 Jane Doe found in Dekalb County, GA age 28. Hall is a suspect in the murder.
09/19/1993 30 Larry Hall attended a Revolutionary War reenactment at Forest Glen park. (5 miles from
Georgetown and less than 20 miles from where Jessica Roach was found)
09/20/1993 30
Alleged Victim: Jessica Roach age 15. Jessica was last seen alive by her sister Myndi as
she was going to the store. Her sister said she was walking down the road with her bike.
When her sister returned from the store she called out for Jessica and got no answer
which was very unusual. A bus driver, Darrell Morgan, was passing by as he did every
afternoon and saw a bike lying in the middle of the road which he thought was very
unusual because it was a very nice bike. Myndi asked her parents if they had heard from
Jessica and when they said no they called authorities. The police department quickly
organized a search party, after the disappearance of Holly Ann Anderson
11/08/1993 30
Investigator Miller received a phone call from Vermillion County about the decomposed
remains of a girls body that had been found in a cornfield approximately 15 feet off of
country road 1300 north.
11/09/1993 30
The decomposed body was taken to Dr. Rowland Kohr for a medical examination, and
was later positively identified as Jessica Roach. Her autopsy showed she had a broken
jaw, probably caused by someone punching her
11/19/1993 30 Larry Hall was in Rochester, Indiana for a civil war reenactment.
December of
1993 31 Jane Doe found in Fairfax County, VA age 30. Hall is a suspect in the murder.
05/29/1994 31
Stalked Victim: Amy Baker was out rollerblading when she noticed a brown and tan van
passing by her numerous times. It got closer and much slower each time it passed. She
saw a motorist whom she knew and stopped the car and told them if they didnt hear from
her in 45 minutes to contact her parents and have them call the police with the
description. She was near the spot that Jessica Roachs body was found. She also was
skating near where Holly Ann Anderson was found. Baker remembered the license plate
number 85B3752 which was registered to Larry Hall.
05/29/1994 31
Stalked Victim: Abby Mariage (13) and Kaylen Hoskins (15) were riding their bikes
when they noticed a tan colored van with brown stripes following closely behind them.
The girls cut through an alley to avoid the van to go to Kaylen's house. Abby called her
grandmother when at Kaylens house who called the police. Abbys parents went out
looking for the van, and when they found the van the driver turned off his lights cause he
knew they were watching. The van tried to escape, but he got stopped at a red light.
Abbys mother called the police and gave them the license plate which the van was
registered Larry Hall.
05/30/1994 31
Officer Neil Pence stopped Larry Hall after he had driven past some girls several times.
While searching Larrys van, he noticed some unusual items such as a spray can of
starting fluid, a cotton mask, and cotton balls, a plastic tar, some knives and a length of
rope. The officers often found newspaper articles about Tricia Reitler and a piece of
Indiana Wesleyan University stationary with Reitler's name printed on it. Hall was
arrested by police and confessed to killing Tricia Reitler. However he was later released
as a wannabe serial killer after failing to find the place where he told police he buried her.
05/31/1994 31
Stalked Victims: Ashley Davis, Tisha Moore, Danielle Marshall, and Melissa Selleck
were walking in Wabash City Park when they noticed a brown and tan van driving next to
them. The driver asked them if they wanted to go for a ride. The girls got scared and ran
to Ashleys house and her mother yelled at the man as he was driving off. Melissa
Selleck told police after the incident that the man with the dark hair and a beard had tried
two other times to coax her into his van. Her father went looking for the van and found
the same van which was registered to Larry Hall. Police searched a barn that Hall had
been using to work on his vehicles. They found straps suspended in the barn that were
thought to have been used as restraints.
06/30/1994 31 Alleged Victim (Still missing) Donda Renea Martino was talking with her sister when she
said she was going to run to the store, and told her shed call her back when she returned.
No ones heard from her since. The next day there was a family birthday party and Donda
never showed which they knew something was wrong. Her husband said he hadnt seen
her since was left for the store. There are various civil war battles in the region.
07/15/1994 31
Alleged Victim: Sarah Rae Boehm (14) was on her way to a friends house but she didnt
make it. Police first thought she was a runaway however her family and friends knew she
wasnt. A hunter found skeletal remains near Deerfield, Ohio at Berlin lake in Portage
County. In May of 2001 FBI agents obtained a DNA sample from Sarah Boehms mother
and submitted the sample for lab testing. In 2003 the remains were identified as Sarah
Boehm.
07/24/1994 31
Stalked Victims: Natasha Crockett (13) and her sister Nicole (10) were playing with their
cousins across from their home when they noticed a brown and tan colored van parked
across the street. The driver was writing something down. The van pulled up to the girls
and asked them if they knew where Woodlawn Street was, when they said no the man
asked Natasha if they would like to go for a ride. They said no and ran into their home.
The young ladies told their parents about the van, and the van was driving by their house
the parents got the license plate number the van was registered to Larry Hall.
08/08/1994 31
Alleged Victim (Still Missing): Shaylene Marie Farrell (18) left her home to go to a Pick
n Save grocery store. Her 1981 Chevrolet was found in the parking lot. She has never
been found.
08/21/1994 31
Alleged Victim: The nude body of Kathryn Menendez (17), a rising high-school senior in
Beloit, Ohio, was found by a gas company employee working near the Berlin Reservoir in
nearby Portage County. The autopsy showed she had been raped, tortured, sexually
mutilated, and strangled to death. In the November that followed, the remains of Sarah
Boehm were found less than a mile away from where Menendez was dumped. Less than
two months after the killing of Menendez, another girl was found murdered in Rochester,
Indiana with similar mutilation injuries.
October
1994 31 Jane Doe (30) found in Alcona County, MI. Hall is a suspect in the murder.
10/09/1994 31
Alleged Victim: Kerry Ann Smith (20) was found on the north side of the Tippecanoe
River. She was last seen in South Bend, Indiana where she lived. An autopsy revealed
Smith had been beaten, strangled, and sexually mutilated. Police speculated on where
Smith had been murdered because there was no evidence on the bridge or riverbanks.
The following month, the FBI found a note In Larrys van mentioning Menominee, a
public access area less than one half mile upstream from where Kerry Smith was found.
10/22/1994 31
Stalked Victims: Nichole Brucker (14) and Danielle Mullens (14) were visiting a nearby
store when a van pulled into the parking lot. The girls took off running as the man
followed in the van asking them why they were running and if they wanted a ride. They
called police who found out the driver was Larry Hall.
10/28/1994 31
Detective Sergeant Jeff Whitmer of the Wabash City Police Department received a fax
from the Gary Miller at the Vermilion County Sheriffs Department. The message stated
that Miller was interest in discussing two attempted abductions in Georgetown, Illinois.
Did Wabash police know a man named Larry Hall? Miller told Whitmer that in both
attempted abductions, young girls had identified a town brown van with a license number
of 85B3752. When he ran the plate he found it was registered to Larry Hall. He also told
them about the unsolved murder of Jessica Roach. Whitmer knew Larry Hall and asked if
there were any military reenactments in the area during that time.
November
of 1994 31
Jane Doe (25) found in Ottawa County, MI; regardless of Halls arrest in 94 the body that
was found is believed to have been there long before it was found. Hall is suspected of the
murder.
11/02/1994 31
Detective Miller arrived in Wabash for an interview with Larry Hall. He was joined by
investigators that were investigating the disappearance of Tricia Reitler. Hall was soft
spoken and quiet in his demeanor. Miller noticed that he emitted no outward signs of
disturbed behavior. Miller told Hall he was there because some young girls in
Georgetown, Illinois had reported someone in a van had harassed them. Acting confused,
Hall immediately denied ever being in Georgetown and he said he had not been in Illinois
for a long time.
11/15/1994 31
Miller returned to Wabash with Special Agent Ken Temples of the Springfield FBI office.
Temples was involved in the Roach murder investigation since her body found across the
state line of Indiana. Detective Whitmer drove to Halls residence and asked Hall to meet
with him and some officers. Hall was advised of his Miranda rights and signed a waiver
of his rights. Hall was asked questions about the Roach abduction and showed hall a
picture of Jessica. After seeing the picture Larry Hall hung his head and began to cry,
and recounted the events of September 20th, 1993. Hall signed a confession admitting to
abducting and murdering Jessica Roach and other girls.
11/16/1994 31 Hall had an appointment with Dr. Jim Cates to diagnose the kind of mental health
symptoms he had.
12/21/1994 32 Larry Hall was charged with one count of kidnapping Jessica Roach for the purposes of
sexual gratification.
02/13/1995 32
Larry Hall met with Dr. Hartman a psychologist and neuropsychologist. Dr. Hartman
administered an I.Q screening test, Symptom Checklist 90, a test for personality
characteristics, and the MMPI
April 11 &
13, and end
of May 1995
32 Hall met with Dr. Greg Helgesen a clinical psychologist and had various tests run.
May of 1995 32
Jane Doe found in Champaign County, IL age 25; regardless of Halls arrest in 1994, the
body that was found is believed to have been there long before it was found. Hall is
suspected of the murder.
06/061995 32 Hall is found guilty of kidnapping Jessica Roach
July of 1995 32
Jane Doe found in Pulaski County, KY age 25; regardless of Halls arrest in 1994, the
body that was found is believed to have been there long before it was found. Hall is
suspected of the murder.
08/18/1995 32 Hall is sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
September
of 1995 32
Jane Doe found in Bucks County, PA age 35; regardless of Halls arrest in 1994, the body
that was found is believed to have been there long before it was found. Hall is suspected
of the murder.
February of
1996 33 Halls attorney, Craig H. DeArmond, argued for a new trial before the 7th Circuit Court of
Appeals. He believed Larry Hall had not received a fair trial.
December of
1996 34
Jane Doe found in St. Joseph County, IN age 25; regardless of Halls arrest in 1994 the
body that was found is believed to have been there long before it was found. Hall is
suspected of the murder.
08/18/1997 34 Larry Halls second trial began ( four years after Jessica Roach was abducted)
12/02/1997 34 Larry DeWayne Hall came before judge Joe B. McDade in the United States District
Court of Peoria, Illinois. He was sentenced to life in prison without release.
1998 35
Hall confessed a 3rd time to a fellow inmate named James Keene about killing Tricia
Reitler. Hall told Keene the night he abducted Reitler, he took her to his home and left
her bound in the back of his van while he pondered what to do with her. Hall said he later
drove to a wilderness near Wabash murdered and buried her.
09/10/1998 35
Hall sent an appeal to the United States 7th Circuit Court of Appeals saying he didnt
receive a fair trial. Circuit Judges Coffey, Easterbrook and Kanne found his arguments
unpersuasive and affirmed Larry Halls conviction for the kidnapping of Jessica Roach.
2009/2010 Late
40s
Indianapolis cold case officers visited Hall to question him about the Michelle Dewey
murder and other cases. He denied ever hurting anyone.
10/11/2009 46
Hall called Christopher Hawley Martin (an author writing a book about him) and told him
of his innocence. He said he didnt kidnap and murder Jessica Roach a man named
Lester OToole did.
farmer in a ditch near Waupin, Wisconsin she had been gagged with a red bandana.
Authorities believe she was sexual assaulted and strangled.
07/20/1990 27
Alleged Victim: Jane Doe age approximately 25. Cause of death was multiple stab
wounds to her neck and torso. Autopsy revealed she had been sexual mutilated. The
killer removed her reproductive organs.
February
1991 28 Jane Doe found in Frederick County, VA age 30. Larry Hall is a suspect
03/02/1991 28
Alleged Victim: (Still missing, case is still active due to parents) Julie Johnson age 29.
She drove a light blue Chevrolet and it was found abandoned along Indiana State Rd. 22
near County Road 300E and Howard County. She had taken her four children to a movie
Friday evening. Took them home and tucked them in and disappeared. Husband reported
her missing on Saturday. Car was found less than 35 miles from Wabash.
07/01/1991 28
Alleged Victim: Michelle Dewey age 20. Murdered by strangulation and had been cut.
Indianapolis, Indiana. She was sunbathing with her son and was waiting for the sitter.
The sitter called police after seeing blood and son was found in a closet untouched. Hall
visited Indianapolis that day after seeing a sales ad for a 1980 blue dodge van. They think
he spotted Dewey in the yard and then went into her house and murdered her.
07/25/1991 28
Alleged Victim/Hall admitted picking up a woman in Clearmont on the west side of
Indianapolis (He remembered the woman did not want to go with him and had to be
forced). Georgia Schreve (37). She was last seen at a truck stop in Indianapolis on
Thursday. Truck driver found her body on August 5 in a ditch next to the westbound on
ramp of interstate 74 at Indiana start Rt 25.
09/06/1991 28 Wabash, Indiana. Robert Heath, a friend of Larry and Gary died. WW II Marine owned
a cleaning business.
01/09/1992 29
Alleged Victim: Holly Ann Anderson age 18. Body was found in a field along CR 1450.
The site was near Perrysville, Indiana. Stabbed at least twice in the chest and had been
there for about two hours. She was found less than 2 miles where Hall confessed he
dumped Jessica Roach.
March 1992 29 Jane Doe found in Fulton County, GA age 25. Hall is a suspect in her disappearance.
06/07/1992 29
Alleged Victims: Stacey McCall (18), Suzanne Streeter (19), and Sherill Levitt (47).
Springfield, Missouri. The two younger girls had graduated the night before. Streeter
and Levitt lived in Springfield. Witness saw a blonde driving an older dodge van later on
Sunday. The witness said an unseen male voice told her not to do anything stupid. Larry
Hall had a dodge van similar to the witnesss accounts.
June of 1992 29 Jane Doe found in Berks County, PA age 25. Hall is a suspect in her disappearance.
08/19/1992 29
Alleged Victim: Laurie Depies age 20. Last seen at Foxriver Mall not far from US 41.
Larie parked her car and disappeared. Her overnight bag and purse were locked in car.
Civil War reenactment was held at Grignon Mansion in Kaukauana, WI three days before
her abduction. The mansion is ten miles away from where she vanished and Depsies is
mentioned in Halls diary. Also recalled traveling to WI in his November 15, 1994
confession.
08/29/1992 29
Alleged Victim: Toni Spicer (27). She left her job at the Hip Hugger in Kokomo at 3:00
a.m. and was found dead in her home at 7:00 a.m. by a babysitter who was dripping off
two of Spicers children. The location is a short drive from where Julie Johnson
disappeared in 1991 and less than 30 miles from Wabash.
09/05/1992 29
Alleged Victim (still missing): Bridget Clod Felter age unknown. She left her apartment
for a country bar called the Buckboard to meet her sister and never made it and has not
been heard from since. The rout to the bar was heavily wooded and there are nearby sites
of Civil War Battles Dallas and the Battle of Atlanta.
01/17/1993 30 Alleged Victim (still missing): Laura Lynn Thompson (15). US 224 is a straight line
between Hunnington and Wabash.
03/26/1993 30
Alleged Victim: Rayna Rison (16). She worked at the animal hospital and was last seen
by the receptionist at 6:00 p.m. Her car was found with the doors locked and the keys in
the ignition. Purse was found on front seat and her hood was up but there were no
problems with the car. Her hair barret was found next to car and her boyfriends jacket
was found six miles from the car. Officers say the jacket was not there during the search.
Fisherman found the body fully-clothed floating near a pond. Someone tried to conceal
the body with branches. She had been strangled but not sexually assaulted. In 1994
police did a search of Halls possessions and birth control was found with R. Rison on it.
03/29/1993 30
Alleged Victim: Tricia Reitler (19). She was a freshman at Wesleyan University. She
left her dormitory around 8:00 p.m. to shop at a nearby supermarket. She purchased a
root beer and a Family Circle magazine and has not been seen since.
04/06/1993 30
Stalked Victims: Heather Edgett (20) and Kristian Zoeller (19) were coming home from
the store heading back to Wesleyan University where they noticed a brown and tan van
following them. They ran back to campus and called a security guard. The security
guard, a former police officer, followed the van and pulled Larry Hall over, where Larry
gave an address to a friends house he was trying to find. However, when Beck contacted
police for help with the address he found it was a fake address.
September
of 1993 30 Jane Doe found in Dekalb County, GA age 28. Hall is a suspect in the murder.
09/19/1993 30 Larry Hall attended a Revolutionary War reenactment at Forest Glen park. (5 miles from
Georgetown and less than 20 miles from where Jessica Roach was found)
09/20/1993 30
Alleged Victim: Jessica Roach age 15. Jessica was last seen alive by her sister Myndi as
she was going to the store. Her sister said she was walking down the road with her bike.
When her sister returned from the store she called out for Jessica and got no answer
which was very unusual. A bus driver, Darrell Morgan, was passing by as he did every
afternoon and saw a bike lying in the middle of the road which he thought was very
unusual because it was a very nice bike. Myndi asked her parents if they had heard from
Jessica and when they said no they called authorities. The police department quickly
organized a search party, after the disappearance of Holly Ann Anderson
11/08/1993 30
Investigator Miller received a phone call from Vermillion County about the decomposed
remains of a girls body that had been found in a cornfield approximately 15 feet off of
country road 1300 north.
11/09/1993 30
The decomposed body was taken to Dr. Rowland Kohr for a medical examination, and
was later positively identified as Jessica Roach. Her autopsy showed she had a broken
jaw, probably caused by someone punching her
11/19/1993 30 Larry Hall was in Rochester, Indiana for a civil war reenactment.
December of
1993 31 Jane Doe found in Fairfax County, VA age 30. Hall is a suspect in the murder.
05/29/1994 31
Stalked Victim: Amy Baker was out rollerblading when she noticed a brown and tan van
passing by her numerous times. It got closer and much slower each time it passed. She
saw a motorist whom she knew and stopped the car and told them if they didnt hear from
her in 45 minutes to contact her parents and have them call the police with the
description. She was near the spot that Jessica Roachs body was found. She also was
skating near where Holly Ann Anderson was found. Baker remembered the license plate
number 85B3752 which was registered to Larry Hall.
05/29/1994 31
Stalked Victim: Abby Mariage (13) and Kaylen Hoskins (15) were riding their bikes
when they noticed a tan colored van with brown stripes following closely behind them.
The girls cut through an alley to avoid the van to go to Kaylen's house. Abby called her
grandmother when at Kaylens house who called the police. Abbys parents went out
looking for the van, and when they found the van the driver turned off his lights cause he
knew they were watching. The van tried to escape, but he got stopped at a red light.
Abbys mother called the police and gave them the license plate which the van was
registered Larry Hall.
05/30/1994 31
Officer Neil Pence stopped Larry Hall after he had driven past some girls several times.
While searching Larrys van, he noticed some unusual items such as a spray can of
starting fluid, a cotton mask, and cotton balls, a plastic tar, some knives and a length of
rope. The officers often found newspaper articles about Tricia Reitler and a piece of
Indiana Wesleyan University stationary with Reitler's name printed on it. Hall was
arrested by police and confessed to killing Tricia Reitler. However he was later released
as a wannabe serial killer after failing to find the place where he told police he buried her.
05/31/1994 31
Stalked Victims: Ashley Davis, Tisha Moore, Danielle Marshall, and Melissa Selleck
were walking in Wabash City Park when they noticed a brown and tan van driving next to
them. The driver asked them if they wanted to go for a ride. The girls got scared and ran
to Ashleys house and her mother yelled at the man as he was driving off. Melissa
Selleck told police after the incident that the man with the dark hair and a beard had tried
two other times to coax her into his van. Her father went looking for the van and found
the same van which was registered to Larry Hall. Police searched a barn that Hall had
been using to work on his vehicles. They found straps suspended in the barn that were
thought to have been used as restraints.
06/30/1994 31 Alleged Victim (Still missing) Donda Renea Martino was talking with her sister when she
said she was going to run to the store, and told her shed call her back when she returned.
No ones heard from her since. The next day there was a family birthday party and Donda
never showed which they knew something was wrong. Her husband said he hadnt seen
her since was left for the store. There are various civil war battles in the region.
07/15/1994 31
Alleged Victim: Sarah Rae Boehm (14) was on her way to a friends house but she didnt
make it. Police first thought she was a runaway however her family and friends knew she
wasnt. A hunter found skeletal remains near Deerfield, Ohio at Berlin lake in Portage
County. In May of 2001 FBI agents obtained a DNA sample from Sarah Boehms mother
and submitted the sample for lab testing. In 2003 the remains were identified as Sarah
Boehm.
07/24/1994 31
Stalked Victims: Natasha Crockett (13) and her sister Nicole (10) were playing with their
cousins across from their home when they noticed a brown and tan colored van parked
across the street. The driver was writing something down. The van pulled up to the girls
and asked them if they knew where Woodlawn Street was, when they said no the man
asked Natasha if they would like to go for a ride. They said no and ran into their home.
The young ladies told their parents about the van, and the van was driving by their house
the parents got the license plate number the van was registered to Larry Hall.
08/08/1994 31
Alleged Victim (Still Missing): Shaylene Marie Farrell (18) left her home to go to a Pick
n Save grocery store. Her 1981 Chevrolet was found in the parking lot. She has never
been found.
08/21/1994 31
Alleged Victim: The nude body of Kathryn Menendez (17), a rising high-school senior in
Beloit, Ohio, was found by a gas company employee working near the Berlin Reservoir in
nearby Portage County. The autopsy showed she had been raped, tortured, sexually
mutilated, and strangled to death. In the November that followed, the remains of Sarah
Boehm were found less than a mile away from where Menendez was dumped. Less than
two months after the killing of Menendez, another girl was found murdered in Rochester,
Indiana with similar mutilation injuries.
October
1994 31 Jane Doe (30) found in Alcona County, MI. Hall is a suspect in the murder.
10/09/1994 31
Alleged Victim: Kerry Ann Smith (20) was found on the north side of the Tippecanoe
River. She was last seen in South Bend, Indiana where she lived. An autopsy revealed
Smith had been beaten, strangled, and sexually mutilated. Police speculated on where
Smith had been murdered because there was no evidence on the bridge or riverbanks.
The following month, the FBI found a note In Larrys van mentioning Menominee, a
public access area less than one half mile upstream from where Kerry Smith was found.
10/22/1994 31
Stalked Victims: Nichole Brucker (14) and Danielle Mullens (14) were visiting a nearby
store when a van pulled into the parking lot. The girls took off running as the man
followed in the van asking them why they were running and if they wanted a ride. They
called police who found out the driver was Larry Hall.
10/28/1994 31
Detective Sergeant Jeff Whitmer of the Wabash City Police Department received a fax
from the Gary Miller at the Vermilion County Sheriffs Department. The message stated
that Miller was interest in discussing two attempted abductions in Georgetown, Illinois.
Did Wabash police know a man named Larry Hall? Miller told Whitmer that in both
attempted abductions, young girls had identified a town brown van with a license number
of 85B3752. When he ran the plate he found it was registered to Larry Hall. He also told
them about the unsolved murder of Jessica Roach. Whitmer knew Larry Hall and asked if
there were any military reenactments in the area during that time.
November
of 1994 31
Jane Doe (25) found in Ottawa County, MI; regardless of Halls arrest in 94 the body that
was found is believed to have been there long before it was found. Hall is suspected of the
murder.
11/02/1994 31
Detective Miller arrived in Wabash for an interview with Larry Hall. He was joined by
investigators that were investigating the disappearance of Tricia Reitler. Hall was soft
spoken and quiet in his demeanor. Miller noticed that he emitted no outward signs of
disturbed behavior. Miller told Hall he was there because some young girls in
Georgetown, Illinois had reported someone in a van had harassed them. Acting confused,
Hall immediately denied ever being in Georgetown and he said he had not been in Illinois
for a long time.
11/15/1994 31
Miller returned to Wabash with Special Agent Ken Temples of the Springfield FBI office.
Temples was involved in the Roach murder investigation since her body found across the
state line of Indiana. Detective Whitmer drove to Halls residence and asked Hall to meet
with him and some officers. Hall was advised of his Miranda rights and signed a waiver
of his rights. Hall was asked questions about the Roach abduction and showed hall a
picture of Jessica. After seeing the picture Larry Hall hung his head and began to cry,
and recounted the events of September 20th, 1993. Hall signed a confession admitting to
abducting and murdering Jessica Roach and other girls.
11/16/1994 31 Hall had an appointment with Dr. Jim Cates to diagnose the kind of mental health
symptoms he had.
12/21/1994 32 Larry Hall was charged with one count of kidnapping Jessica Roach for the purposes of
sexual gratification.
02/13/1995 32
Larry Hall met with Dr. Hartman a psychologist and neuropsychologist. Dr. Hartman
administered an I.Q screening test, Symptom Checklist 90, a test for personality
characteristics, and the MMPI
April 11 &
13, and end
of May 1995
32 Hall met with Dr. Greg Helgesen a clinical psychologist and had various tests run.
May of 1995 32
Jane Doe found in Champaign County, IL age 25; regardless of Halls arrest in 1994, the
body that was found is believed to have been there long before it was found. Hall is
suspected of the murder.
06/061995 32 Hall is found guilty of kidnapping Jessica Roach
July of 1995 32
Jane Doe found in Pulaski County, KY age 25; regardless of Halls arrest in 1994, the
body that was found is believed to have been there long before it was found. Hall is
suspected of the murder.
08/18/1995 32 Hall is sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
September
of 1995 32
Jane Doe found in Bucks County, PA age 35; regardless of Halls arrest in 1994, the body
that was found is believed to have been there long before it was found. Hall is suspected
of the murder.
February of
1996 33 Halls attorney, Craig H. DeArmond, argued for a new trial before the 7th Circuit Court of
Appeals. He believed Larry Hall had not received a fair trial.
December of
1996 34
Jane Doe found in St. Joseph County, IN age 25; regardless of Halls arrest in 1994 the
body that was found is believed to have been there long before it was found. Hall is
suspected of the murder.
08/18/1997 34 Larry Halls second trial began ( four years after Jessica Roach was abducted)
12/02/1997 34 Larry DeWayne Hall came before judge Joe B. McDade in the United States District
Court of Peoria, Illinois. He was sentenced to life in prison without release.
1998 35
Hall confessed a 3rd time to a fellow inmate named James Keene about killing Tricia
Reitler. Hall told Keene the night he abducted Reitler, he took her to his home and left
her bound in the back of his van while he pondered what to do with her. Hall said he later
drove to a wilderness near Wabash murdered and buried her.
09/10/1998 35
Hall sent an appeal to the United States 7th Circuit Court of Appeals saying he didnt
receive a fair trial. Circuit Judges Coffey, Easterbrook and Kanne found his arguments
unpersuasive and affirmed Larry Halls conviction for the kidnapping of Jessica Roach.
2009/2010 Late
40s
Indianapolis cold case officers visited Hall to question him about the Michelle Dewey
murder and other cases. He denied ever hurting anyone.
10/11/2009 46
Hall called Christopher Hawley Martin (an author writing a book about him) and told him
of his innocence. He said he didnt kidnap and murder Jessica Roach a man named
Lester OToole did.
General Information
Sex Male
Race White
Number of victims 4 admitted, 40 alleged, 14 found = 54 total
Country where killing occurred United States
States where killing occurred Pennsylvania, Virginia, Maryland, West Virginia, Kentucky,
Tennessee, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Missouri,
Wisconsin, Georgia, Alabama
Cities where killing occurred Various cities among each of the states.
Type of killer Organized Serial Killer with Disorganized traits
Height
Race White
Number of victims 4 admitted, 40 alleged, 14 found = 54 total
Country where killing occurred United States
States where killing occurred Pennsylvania, Virginia, Maryland, West Virginia, Kentucky,
Tennessee, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Missouri,
Wisconsin, Georgia, Alabama
Cities where killing occurred Various cities among each of the states.
Type of killer Organized Serial Killer with Disorganized traits
Height
Childhood Information
Date of birth 12/11/1962
Location Wabash, Indiana
Birth order 2
Location Wabash, Indiana
Birth order 2
nd born out of twins
Number of siblings 1
XYY? ?
Raised by Both parents
Birth category Younger of twins by a few seconds
Parents marital status Married
Did serial killer spend time in an orphanage? No
Did serial killer spend time in a foster home? No
Was serial killer ever raised by a relative? No
Did serial killer live with a step-parent? No
Family event N/A
Age of family event N/A
Problems in school? Bullied due to a speech impediment, and for his bedwetting
Teased while in school? Yes
Physically attractive? No
Physical defect? No
Speech defect? Yes
Head injury? N/A
Physically abused? By his father Robert Hall
Psychologically abused? Yes at school
Sexually abused? No
Fathers occupation Undertaker and a local cemetery in Wabash, Indiana
Age of first sexual experience Age un-known, first sexual experience with a prostitute.
Age when first had intercourse Age un-known, Lost virginity to a prostitute
Mothers occupation Stay at home mom
Father abused drugs/alcohol Father was a Alcoholic
Mother abused drugs/alcohol No
Number of siblings 1
XYY? ?
Raised by Both parents
Birth category Younger of twins by a few seconds
Parents marital status Married
Did serial killer spend time in an orphanage? No
Did serial killer spend time in a foster home? No
Was serial killer ever raised by a relative? No
Did serial killer live with a step-parent? No
Family event N/A
Age of family event N/A
Problems in school? Bullied due to a speech impediment, and for his bedwetting
Teased while in school? Yes
Physically attractive? No
Physical defect? No
Speech defect? Yes
Head injury? N/A
Physically abused? By his father Robert Hall
Psychologically abused? Yes at school
Sexually abused? No
Fathers occupation Undertaker and a local cemetery in Wabash, Indiana
Age of first sexual experience Age un-known, first sexual experience with a prostitute.
Age when first had intercourse Age un-known, Lost virginity to a prostitute
Mothers occupation Stay at home mom
Father abused drugs/alcohol Father was a Alcoholic
Mother abused drugs/alcohol No
Cognitive Ability
Highest grade in school 12
Highest degree Diploma
Grades in school Only excelled in English and History, all other subjects did very poorly in
IQ 80
Source of IQ information Martin (2010, Page 11)
Highest degree Diploma
Grades in school Only excelled in English and History, all other subjects did very poorly in
IQ 80
Source of IQ information Martin (2010, Page 11)
Work History
Served in the military? No
Branch N/A
Type of discharge N/A
Saw combat duty N/A
Killed enemy during service? N/A
Applied for job as a cop? N/A
Worked in law enforcement? N/A
Fired from jobs? No
Types of jobs worked Janitor, Civil war rein actor (didnt involve much socializing)
Employment status during series Employed as a Civil War Reenactment actor
Branch N/A
Type of discharge N/A
Saw combat duty N/A
Killed enemy during service? N/A
Applied for job as a cop? N/A
Worked in law enforcement? N/A
Fired from jobs? No
Types of jobs worked Janitor, Civil war rein actor (didnt involve much socializing)
Employment status during series Employed as a Civil War Reenactment actor
Relationships
Sexual preference Heterosexual
Marital status Single
Number of children 0
Lives with his children N/A
Living with Parents
Marital status Single
Number of children 0
Lives with his children N/A
Living with Parents
Triad
Animal torture No
Fire setting Yes
Bed wetting Yes
Fire setting Yes
Bed wetting Yes
Killer Psychological Information
Abused drugs? No
Abused alcohol? No
Been to a psychologist (prior to killing)? Yes
Time in forensic hospital (prior to
killing)?
Never admitted
Diagnosis Anxiety and Depression
Abused alcohol? No
Been to a psychologist (prior to killing)? Yes
Time in forensic hospital (prior to
killing)?
Never admitted
Diagnosis Anxiety and Depression
Killer Criminal History (Prior to the series)
Committed previous crimes? Thought to have committed Arson
Spent time in jail? No
Spent time in prison? No
Killed prior to series? Age? No
Spent time in jail? No
Spent time in prison? No
Killed prior to series? Age? No
Serial Killing
Number of victims 4 Admitted, 40 alleged, 14 found=54 total (Some were admitted
and found, etc)
Victim type Prostitutes; young, middle-aged women
Killer age at start of series 24
Date of first kill in series February 24, 1987
Date of final kill in series October 9, 1994
Gender of victims Female
Race of victims Caucasian and Hispanic
Age of victims 10 years old to 59 years of age
Type of victim Prostitutes, young girls, college students
Method of killing Stabbing, Strangulation
Weapon Knife and rope
Was gun used? No
Type N/A
Did killer have a partner? No
Name of partner N/A
Sex of partner N/A
Relationship of partner N/A
Type of serial killer Organized with disorganized traits
How close did killer live? Traveled to victims towns
Location of first contact La Porte, Indiana
Location of killing A remote brushy area outside of Kingsbury
Killing occurred in home of victim? No
Killing occurred in home of killer? No
Victim abducted or killed at contact? Yes
Behavior During Crimes
Rape? Yes
Tortured victims? Yes
Stalked victims? Yes
Overkill? Yes
Quick & efficient? Yes and No, some victims he would kill quickly others he would
torture
Used blindfold? Yes
Bound the victims? Yes
After Death Behavior
Sex with the body? Yes
Mutilated body? Yes
Ate part of the body? No
Drank victims blood? No
Posed the body? No
Took totem body part No
Took totem personal item Yes
Robbed victim or location No
Disposal of Body
Left at scene, no attempt to hide Yes
Left at scene, hidden No
Left at scene, buried Yes
Moved, no attempt to hide Yes
Moved, buried Yes
Cut-op and disposed of Yes
Moved, too home No
Sentencing
Date killer arrested November 15, 1994
Date convicted December 21
and found, etc)
Victim type Prostitutes; young, middle-aged women
Killer age at start of series 24
Date of first kill in series February 24, 1987
Date of final kill in series October 9, 1994
Gender of victims Female
Race of victims Caucasian and Hispanic
Age of victims 10 years old to 59 years of age
Type of victim Prostitutes, young girls, college students
Method of killing Stabbing, Strangulation
Weapon Knife and rope
Was gun used? No
Type N/A
Did killer have a partner? No
Name of partner N/A
Sex of partner N/A
Relationship of partner N/A
Type of serial killer Organized with disorganized traits
How close did killer live? Traveled to victims towns
Location of first contact La Porte, Indiana
Location of killing A remote brushy area outside of Kingsbury
Killing occurred in home of victim? No
Killing occurred in home of killer? No
Victim abducted or killed at contact? Yes
Behavior During Crimes
Rape? Yes
Tortured victims? Yes
Stalked victims? Yes
Overkill? Yes
Quick & efficient? Yes and No, some victims he would kill quickly others he would
torture
Used blindfold? Yes
Bound the victims? Yes
After Death Behavior
Sex with the body? Yes
Mutilated body? Yes
Ate part of the body? No
Drank victims blood? No
Posed the body? No
Took totem body part No
Took totem personal item Yes
Robbed victim or location No
Disposal of Body
Left at scene, no attempt to hide Yes
Left at scene, hidden No
Left at scene, buried Yes
Moved, no attempt to hide Yes
Moved, buried Yes
Cut-op and disposed of Yes
Moved, too home No
Sentencing
Date killer arrested November 15, 1994
Date convicted December 21
st, 1994
Sentence Life without parole
Killer executed? No
Did killer plead NGRI? Plead Not guilty
Was the NGRI plea successful? N/A
Did serial killer confess? Confessed then Recanted
Name and state of prison Bunter Psychological Institute in North Carolina
Killer committed suicide? No
Killer killed in prison? No
Date of death Still Living
Cause of death N/A still living
Sentence Life without parole
Killer executed? No
Did killer plead NGRI? Plead Not guilty
Was the NGRI plea successful? N/A
Did serial killer confess? Confessed then Recanted
Name and state of prison Bunter Psychological Institute in North Carolina
Killer committed suicide? No
Killer killed in prison? No
Date of death Still Living
Cause of death N/A still living
References
Martin, H, C. (2010). Urges: A Chronicle of Serial Killer Larry Hall. CreateSpaceHmmWhoKnows
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Looks like Larry and Gary are out.
http://ozarksfirst.com/fulltext?nxd_id=719362
SPRINGFIELD, Mo. -- Springfield Police are downplaying the significance of a possible new lead in the three mission women case.
Cpl. Matt Brown says investigators have been in contact with the McDonald County Sheriff's Office regarding the latest lead. However, he says it's the same information from a lead in 2009, and has been "thoroughly investigated."
Police say that inmate has provided several conflicting statements, none of which are consistent with the facts of the case.
"We are always open to any new developments related to this case and will fully investigate them," adds Cpl. Brown. "We will review any new information the McDonald County Sheriff's Office may have obtained to determine if any further investigation of this particular lead is warranted."
The Springfield Police Department says it continues to receive tips related to this investigation from a variety of sources, including other law enforcement agencies on a regular basis and each of those are investigated to the fullest extent possible.
http://ozarksfirst.com/fulltext?nxd_id=719362
SPRINGFIELD, Mo. -- Springfield Police are downplaying the significance of a possible new lead in the three mission women case.
Cpl. Matt Brown says investigators have been in contact with the McDonald County Sheriff's Office regarding the latest lead. However, he says it's the same information from a lead in 2009, and has been "thoroughly investigated."
Police say that inmate has provided several conflicting statements, none of which are consistent with the facts of the case.
"We are always open to any new developments related to this case and will fully investigate them," adds Cpl. Brown. "We will review any new information the McDonald County Sheriff's Office may have obtained to determine if any further investigation of this particular lead is warranted."
The Springfield Police Department says it continues to receive tips related to this investigation from a variety of sources, including other law enforcement agencies on a regular basis and each of those are investigated to the fullest extent possible.
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Thank you so much. Big problem with this case is getting past the silly garage stuff.
Greetings.
I have really crammed for this case. I read all of the previous threads (minus #3). I also watched the 48 Hours and Disappeared episodes on this case. I have some comments, observations, and theories Id like to share. I encourage the forum regulars to correct any mistakes and pick apart my theories. I know Im not an expert on this case so I wont be offended in the least.
I was six years old and living in Hollister, MO when this happened. This was BIG NEWS. It was so big that it punctured my six year old universe which was consumed with outdoor play and cartoons. Being that this was only 45 miles away from where I lived, this was a really scary thing. The thought that three women could just disappear was frightening. I was too young to know more than that and as a result many of the misconceptions I had were cleared up thanks to you guys. For example, I remember hearing that they disappeared after seeing a movie at a theater or maybe it was after going to a Shoneys restaurant. I also had the idea that they were all in their 20s when this happened. It shows what little I knew. Also, the fact that Branson, MO has ties to this story really personalizes it for me. I would spend many days at White Water during summer, along with trips to Silver Dollar City, so this resonated with me. My mother worked at a motel in Branson at the time, which was a mile away from White Water, and after learning more about this case I wonder which one they planned to stay at. Its neither here nor there, but Im curious if anyone knows the answer.
I have really crammed for this case. I read all of the previous threads (minus #3). I also watched the 48 Hours and Disappeared episodes on this case. I have some comments, observations, and theories Id like to share. I encourage the forum regulars to correct any mistakes and pick apart my theories. I know Im not an expert on this case so I wont be offended in the least.
I was six years old and living in Hollister, MO when this happened. This was BIG NEWS. It was so big that it punctured my six year old universe which was consumed with outdoor play and cartoons. Being that this was only 45 miles away from where I lived, this was a really scary thing. The thought that three women could just disappear was frightening. I was too young to know more than that and as a result many of the misconceptions I had were cleared up thanks to you guys. For example, I remember hearing that they disappeared after seeing a movie at a theater or maybe it was after going to a Shoneys restaurant. I also had the idea that they were all in their 20s when this happened. It shows what little I knew. Also, the fact that Branson, MO has ties to this story really personalizes it for me. I would spend many days at White Water during summer, along with trips to Silver Dollar City, so this resonated with me. My mother worked at a motel in Branson at the time, which was a mile away from White Water, and after learning more about this case I wonder which one they planned to stay at. Its neither here nor there, but Im curious if anyone knows the answer.
Thank you.
Enough about me and my recollections, it’s time to talk about the details of this case. It’s hard to know where to start, but I’ll just throw some stuff out there that’s been on my mind.
Point #1 – Jannelle, Mike, and the “first responders”
This just doesn’t pass the smell test. I’m in no way saying that they are involved, but these reports bother me. I try to put myself in their shoes (probably a big mistake) and think about the thought process I would have as this visual information was coming at me.
First, she calls the house and no one answers. There is nothing suspicious about that. They could have been in the bathroom, still asleep, or perhaps the ringer was off. There wasn’t caller ID in 1992.
Second, she and Mike arrive at the house. They would have seen the three vehicles parked out front. Again, there isn’t anything suspicious about this. They are supposed to be there.
Third, she and Mike walk up to the front porch and see the broken glass. This is our first red flag, but not in and of itself suspicious. The glass could have just given way in the middle of the night or perhaps the girls broke it when they arrived home. If the latter, they could have decided they were too tired and would clean it up in the morning.
Fourth, she and Mike knock on the door. There isn’t an answer. Okay, this is unusual and I’m starting to wonder. They must have wondered enough to turn the door knob and discover the door was unlocked. This is another red flag. As a side note, I think there are misconceptions about places like Springfield, MO that everyone knows everybody and people are more liberal on leaving their doors unlocked. Wrong! I had heard stories about Springfield from as early as I can remember. I had the impression as a kid it was notorious for burglaries and other bad stuff. Most people in the area aren’t “country bumpkins” who leave their doors unlocked especially a house occupied by two women.
Fifth, she and Mike search the house. This would be red flag central and I would start to get the chills. They discover the beds are unmade, the TV is on, and the dog is unattended to. Most importantly, they discover that the girls are missing even though the cars are in the front. To compound things, they discover the three purses. This should have been the biggest red flag of them all. I don’t know any woman who is without her purse, or any woman who would leave their purse at the house with the door unlocked. The idea that these women left the house and walked to a sub sandwich shop without their purses or identification is absurd. Springfield may not be New York City, but it comes with the same set of dangers. As a female, I would think Janelle would have connected the dots and called the police. Then on top of that she picks up the phone and receives an obscene phone call from an unidentified male. There is so much wrong with this picture and their casual response to it all.
Finally, the idea that they would move things and clean up glass as a favor for a woman they don’t even know (correct?) is another curiosity. I’m not up to speed on the exact timeline, but I recall someone mentioning that she and Mike later left for a few hours and returned again. Plus, there is the issue of the other people in the house. The whole scenario just leaves me scratching my head in bewilderment.
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I believe Mike and Janelle are innocent. If they knew the case would blow up like this, I'm sure even them, as ignorant 18 year olds, would have acted differently.
But I also have some insider information on this so that's another reason I rule them out.
But I also have some insider information on this so that's another reason I rule them out.
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I agree it's very hincky. What really makes me wonder as a mom of three teens is how early Janelle started calling. If they were out partying until 2-3 in the morning, why was she being so intense about talking to them so early? Branson was only something like 45 minutes away.
I'm very surprised that they would walk into the house, but cleaning up the glass while they are waiting around doesn't seem AS weird to me. I'm thinking she said some things on the answering machine that perhaps later she regretted which is why she erased them. Then feeling guilty about her original message and the fact that she had invaded their privacy by listening to the messages she does something 'nice' by cleaning up the glass?
I've often thought that there was a secondary reason for Janelle and Mike's actions that probably had nothing to do with their dissapearance. She was just too weirdly insistent on contacting them and the lengths she went to makes me want to know the 'real reasons.'
I'm very surprised that they would walk into the house, but cleaning up the glass while they are waiting around doesn't seem AS weird to me. I'm thinking she said some things on the answering machine that perhaps later she regretted which is why she erased them. Then feeling guilty about her original message and the fact that she had invaded their privacy by listening to the messages she does something 'nice' by cleaning up the glass?
I've often thought that there was a secondary reason for Janelle and Mike's actions that probably had nothing to do with their dissapearance. She was just too weirdly insistent on contacting them and the lengths she went to makes me want to know the 'real reasons.'
Point #2 – Suspects: Closer to Home?
In the course of reading the other threads on this case and following the debate on the potential suspects, I’d think to myself that perhaps it’s none of these people.
I’ve often bounced around the idea that the answer might lie somewhere in the high school. Did police speak with any of Suzie and Stacy’s classmates? Not just the friends, but people in their class. Perhaps someone saw or overheard something in the hallways or at lunch that they remember. Perhaps someone saw an unusual man around the school during the spring semester. This would have been as simple as checking off names in a yearbook for police. I understand that police went through all of Sherrill’s clients, except for a few according to Missouri Mule, at the hair salon. Did police do the same thing for the people in Suzie and Stacy’s everyday life? Also, were Suzie and Stacy employed at the time? Were coworkers questioned? Finally, were any of these three women church goers?
I also wonder if the graduation was the thing that opened up Pandora’s Box and led to this happening. I think back to my high school graduation. I remember people from out of town came to attend and hang out during the day. The same can be said for other graduates as well. Not only do these “outsiders” attend the graduation ceremony, but they also attend the parties. I recall graduation parties I went to and remember seeing so many people I’d never seen before. Not just young people, but older people. I’d see people who were at least in their mid to late 20s/early 30s at such parties and think to myself how inappropriate it was for these people to be drinking with 17 and 18 year olds. Not only that, but these men would be eyeballing the young girls in attendance. Perhaps Suzie and Stacy caught the attention of such an individual or such an individual was an accomplice to the abduction. Maybe, one of these “outsiders” came from Florida to attend their cousin’s graduation and happened to call a network television show six months later only to have second thoughts at the last moment. If this was ultimately a chance occurrence, it wouldn’t explain the van that was seen in the neighborhood weeks prior. But that could have been anything or nothing at all. Perhaps it wasn’t an “outsider,” but one of their classmate’s older brothers or other relatives. How thorough were Springfield police in questioning the party goers?
One more final thought, this is a question for the people who lived in the Springfield area at the time. Was anything going on in Springfield that would bring in people from other areas? Were there any festivals, conventions, ect that were specific to the area?
In the course of reading the other threads on this case and following the debate on the potential suspects, I’d think to myself that perhaps it’s none of these people.
I’ve often bounced around the idea that the answer might lie somewhere in the high school. Did police speak with any of Suzie and Stacy’s classmates? Not just the friends, but people in their class. Perhaps someone saw or overheard something in the hallways or at lunch that they remember. Perhaps someone saw an unusual man around the school during the spring semester. This would have been as simple as checking off names in a yearbook for police. I understand that police went through all of Sherrill’s clients, except for a few according to Missouri Mule, at the hair salon. Did police do the same thing for the people in Suzie and Stacy’s everyday life? Also, were Suzie and Stacy employed at the time? Were coworkers questioned? Finally, were any of these three women church goers?
I also wonder if the graduation was the thing that opened up Pandora’s Box and led to this happening. I think back to my high school graduation. I remember people from out of town came to attend and hang out during the day. The same can be said for other graduates as well. Not only do these “outsiders” attend the graduation ceremony, but they also attend the parties. I recall graduation parties I went to and remember seeing so many people I’d never seen before. Not just young people, but older people. I’d see people who were at least in their mid to late 20s/early 30s at such parties and think to myself how inappropriate it was for these people to be drinking with 17 and 18 year olds. Not only that, but these men would be eyeballing the young girls in attendance. Perhaps Suzie and Stacy caught the attention of such an individual or such an individual was an accomplice to the abduction. Maybe, one of these “outsiders” came from Florida to attend their cousin’s graduation and happened to call a network television show six months later only to have second thoughts at the last moment. If this was ultimately a chance occurrence, it wouldn’t explain the van that was seen in the neighborhood weeks prior. But that could have been anything or nothing at all. Perhaps it wasn’t an “outsider,” but one of their classmate’s older brothers or other relatives. How thorough were Springfield police in questioning the party goers?
One more final thought, this is a question for the people who lived in the Springfield area at the time. Was anything going on in Springfield that would bring in people from other areas? Were there any festivals, conventions, ect that were specific to the area?
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Hi Mote...
Allow me the welcome to the forum shout as well ! Glad to have you here for a couple of reasons, your age, much younger than many others here, from the general area and hearing about it first hand too. Thats a good perspective to add to the mix here.
Caller ID did exist in 1992, but Im not sure how ubiquitous it was. In the world of 1992, most phone service, virtually all 'hardline was serviced by the 'Seven Sisters from the split up of AT & T. There were separate local companies here and there, even in the prior AT & T days, but the 'Sister in this part of the world was Southwestern Bell. In my life, although not a subscriber, remember service for caller ID being available via Southern Bell, another 'Sister, even as early as the late 80's. Since these 'baby bells were independent companies they may have implemented caller ID at different times and in different ways in their service area. I dont know, in 1992, if caller ID from SWBell was available. But even if so, I dont think it was a service used by the players involved here.
As to phone records its been generally accepted here, from what Ive read from the long time followers that several possibilities exist. 1) Any records of phone traffic to the Levitt house was never made for local calls. The technology was not in place then in that area. 2) If records were made, they have since disappeared or not kept. 3) LE has phone records and knows all or important phone traffic but are keeping it under wraps.
Mote...you are pretty close to me on much of the thinking about the First Responders. However, I can believe LE might be aware of embellishments they made, or stretch of truth or outright lies they MAY have made. But, all of these things may be benign to the case and are just scenery, or if there is anything there, LE is already on it. Remember, information you have is FAR more valuable if nobody else knows you have it.
Last point, and like to use Mote as an example. People like our new poster could very well be a member of a future jury, should this case ever come to trial. Being an adult myself in 1992, I can relate to differences in technology, attitudes and behaviors more than someone who was young then. I would say, in 1992 if I was sequestered for a jury, as 26 year old, for a crime in 1972, there would be a certain disconnect than others who were adults then. As a six year old, I remember hearing about Vietnam, Black Panthers, riots, and Watergate. I for one have always been far more influenced by elders all my pre-adult life (even early adult life) than anyone my own age. To a greater degree than most Ive met. Still, intellectually knowing the differences in time, sitting in that jury box there is the emotional disconnect with the more common attitude of anti establishment which was far different than 20 years before and after this crime of 1972.
I had a question about the telephone situation in this case. Was Sherrill Levitt listed in the phone book? The reason I ask is because of the reported obscene phone calls. If it hadnt been for the reported obscene phone call from June 5th, Id chalk the June 7th phone calls up to immature idiots who were prank calling people willy-nilly out of the phone book. If these phone calls were made by the same person, this suggests something more sinister. Id conclude Suzie may have had a stalker.
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SPD detective Allen Neal has stated that he believes the phone calls are not connected to the case. I'm guessing they were traced. Don't fall for the drama created by the "Disappeared" show. That's important. That show was for entertainment purposes. And it has hurt more than helped the case, IMO. Because of the garage/psychic nonsense.
Something I'd like to know, is what Bartt knows. Did Bartt know this person? Does Bartt have a hunch? His behavior earlier in the year on these forums was strange.
Something I'd like to know, is what Bartt knows. Did Bartt know this person? Does Bartt have a hunch? His behavior earlier in the year on these forums was strange.
Thanks for that info. If the phone calls were traced, there must be some paper trail on the phone records. That's reassuring. I'll just discard the phone calls.
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There has to be a link that I'm missing here.
Garrison (member of the GJ3) has a connection to Suzie via Dustin Recla. This is an escaped convict. One that we know carries a gun and a rapist. Also allegedly had access to a van. Garrison also throws the Robb family under the bus claiming the bodies were buried there.
I don't get how he's not talked about more. He fits the police composite sketch as well. I think we should all investigate Garrison and his friends and family. He's currently in prison in Potosi. Anyone want to try and talk to him?
Garrison (member of the GJ3) has a connection to Suzie via Dustin Recla. This is an escaped convict. One that we know carries a gun and a rapist. Also allegedly had access to a van. Garrison also throws the Robb family under the bus claiming the bodies were buried there.
I don't get how he's not talked about more. He fits the police composite sketch as well. I think we should all investigate Garrison and his friends and family. He's currently in prison in Potosi. Anyone want to try and talk to him?
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Was that an assumption on how I should behave in this horrific situation? or has your family been in a similar situation? Maybe abducted from their home or murdered and webslueths solved your horrible loss and now you are feeling some kind of kindred spirit with me. You have decided to share your proper course of action in dealing with your loss. You openly discussed your theories on a public forum although you did not have a clue what happened and all your sharing did was mudded the information about an active investigation concerning your loved ones. But these wonderful people on websleuths used their great arm chair sleuthing skills to solve the horrific crime that befell your family the whole time they were sleuthing they had but maybe half of the information they needed to make a rational and informed analysis of the situation and maybe as much as a quarter of that information was false or misinformation, and anytime someone corrected the information it was just a small number of posts later that a few of the regulars muddied the waters in a strange attempt to control or be recognized as someone in the loop and knowledgeable of the true events, but what they are, is camping out trolls and they need to get offline and get a life. But you spent your time giving them your theories and correcting false information about anything and anyone you felt needed to be corrected although you didn't know all the facts yourself, but then one day with all your hard work the solution came , not from law enforcement professionals but from websleuths and now you feel an overwhelming desire to help others that have had similar horrible crimes happen in their lives and Im just in need of a little of your prodding and goading to open up and share with all of you, or and this is a big or, maybe you are assuming far too much, if you have not lived a nightmare remotely close to this you may want to stop judging, because I guarantee you do not have a clue what you would do in a similar situation. Thank you for your concern about my strange behavior but Im doing what needs to be done and that is always making myself available to the professionals that are investigating this crime.
I'm not sure anyone is up to speed on an exact timeline. Everything hinges on Janelle's timeline. EVERYTHING!
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What about her bf, M.H.'s timeline? Is there anything publicly known about his explanation and timeline of events? IIRC, I do not think I have seen anything about what he says happened that day. Just for the record, I do not believe Janelle and her bf were involved.
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