The window and the lights

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Where is the scanner thread? I forgot how to get to it

 

[RANCH]

Where is the scanner thread? I forgot how to get to it

It's in the private forums. Here's a link.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150559"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[iamnotagolem]

Look the bricks are each approximately 2.5 inches, there are 12 of them. That's 30 inches. There is a .5 inch space between each brick, that is another 6 inches. Say 6-8 inches from the bottom of the window down to the bottom of the bricks that are sitting the other direction. That is 42-44 inches, plus the area below where the bricking starts.

 

[Donjeta]

To me the window certainly looks high enough that I wouldn't climb it if there was an unlocked door right next to it.

 

[RANCH]

Look the bricks are each approximately 2.5 inches, there are 12 of them. That's 30 inches. There is a .5 inch space between each brick, that is another 6 inches. Say 6-8 inches from the bottom of the window down to the bottom of the bricks that are sitting the other direction. That is 42-44 inches, plus the area below where the bricking starts.

That would make the cop at the window over 7ft 6in tall right?

 

[iamnotagolem]

That would make the cop at the window over 7ft 6in tall right?

Do you have a picture you are referring to?

 

[RANCH]

Do you have a picture you are referring to?

Look at post #179 above.

 

[iamnotagolem]

hope this helps.

If you'll notice this officer is lifting himself up off the ground, unless he has 6 inch soles on his left foot. His left foot is level with the top wooden plank that runs in front of the flower garden. In all the other pictures you'll see there are 2 stacked planks in front of the flower garden.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Really, I don't know why it even matters how high the window is, do I think someone could climb in it? Yes, why not? Do I think someone did go in it? No, everything we've been told has been to the contrary. It's obviously not waist high when there is a picture right there of an officer and it comes pretty level with his nipples.

 

[RANCH]

If you'll notice this officer is lifting himself up off the ground, unless he has 6 inch soles on his left foot. His left foot is level with the top wooden plank that runs in front of the flower garden. In all the other pictures you'll see there are 2 stacked planks in front of the flower garden.

So you think he's 6in off the ground. That would still make him over 7ft tall.

 

[iamnotagolem]

So you think he's 6in off the ground. That would still make him over 7ft tall.

By the numbers I posted that would make him 5.83 ft tall if he's flat footed on the ground. and 6.3 ft tall if he's 6inches off the ground.

It's quite clear by every single picture posted in this thread that window is not waist high. The only picture where the bottom of the window is at a waist is the guy 1/2 thru the window, on another guys back.

We know the window wasn't the point of entry.

 

[RANCH]

By the numbers I posted that would make him 5.83 ft tall if he's flat footed on the ground. and 6.3 ft tall if he's 6inches off the ground.

It's quite clear by every single picture posted in this thread that window is not waist high. The only picture where the bottom of the window is at a waist is the guy 1/2 thru the window, on another guys back.

We know the window wasn't the point of entry.

I don't think the window is waist high either. We know for sure that the window was not a point of entry? No possibility?

 

[Donjeta]

I don't think the window is waist high either. We know for sure that the window was not a point of entry? No possibility?

Everything is possible but if the perp entered by the window I bet he kicked himself when he heard JT telling Dr. Phil that the garage door was unlocked.

 

[iamnotagolem]

I don't think the window is waist high either. We know for sure that the window was not a point of entry? No possibility?

As I posted up thread, I recall LE stating there was no evidence the window was used as a point of entry. I'll see if I can find a link, something about there being undisturbed dust & spider webs, the screen would have been removed, then put back after the climbing through.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Ranch, here is what you were asking about.

This is from the timeline, the links are not working.

Lisa in bed at 7:30 p.m. Debbie in bed at 10:30 after checking on Lisa. 6 year old son slept with Debbie in parents room. Point of entry by abductor was unlocked front door, window mentioned earlier was NOT tampered with.

Here is the bit about the spider web, from an interview with MK:

JI: “It's popped out of the track, and there’s a spiderweb on it, so it looks like it was pushed in, and then up. 'Cause the spiderweb was rolled up.

http://video.insider.foxnews.com/v/...-changed-their-story-over-the-past-two-weeks/

Here is another article & video about the staged break in by the police. http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-ba...k-familys-home/story?id=14702680#.T0Z7PIcgef4

Hopefully this helps.

 

[RANCH]

Ranch, here is what you were asking about.

This is from the timeline, the links are not working.

Lisa in bed at 7:30 p.m. Debbie in bed at 10:30 after checking on Lisa. 6 year old son slept with Debbie in parents room. Point of entry by abductor was unlocked front door, window mentioned earlier was NOT tampered with.

Here is the bit about the spider web, from an interview with MK:

JI: “It's popped out of the track, and there’s a spiderweb on it, so it looks like it was pushed in, and then up. 'Cause the spiderweb was rolled up.

http://video.insider.foxnews.com/v/...-changed-their-story-over-the-past-two-weeks/

Here is another article & video about the staged break in by the police. http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-ba...k-familys-home/story?id=14702680#.T0Z7PIcgef4

Hopefully this helps.

In the MK video JI talks about how the screen was tampered with and uses the spiderweb being "rolled up" to back up his belief. In the ABC News story it say's this.

In the scenario re-created by investigators, the intruder could have come in through the window -- which had been tampered with -- then would have walked through the kitchen, through another doorway and toward the nursery.

I don't see anywhere in these links LE stating that it was impossible for an intruder to come thru the window.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-ba...k-familys-home/story?id=14702680#.T0Z7yPV0TJd

 

[iamnotagolem]

In the MK video JI talks about how the screen was tampered with and uses the spiderweb being "rolled up" to back up his belief. In the ABC News story it say's this.



I don't see anywhere in these links LE stating that it was impossible for an intruder to come thru the window.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-ba...k-familys-home/story?id=14702680#.T0Z7yPV0TJd

I never said that, nor do I believe that.

 

[RANCH]

I never said that, nor do I believe that.

Ok. How about a link for LE saying that there is "no evidence the window was used as a point of entry". See your post #194 above.

 

[iamnotagolem]

As I stated in that post, that is what I recalled. I must have mis-remembered b/c I'm not finding LE ever stating anything, it was just news articles that alluded to it. Guess I need to re-read articles before using my memory.

 

[iamnotagolem]

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/region...al-new-details-about-night-baby-went-missing-

Here is one of the articles that indicated the screen would have had to have been removed then replaced in order for the window to be the entry point.